Kaerin said: »
has it only been tested on "a few specific new ones"? lol
Ukko's Fury Setup
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Ukko's Fury Setup
has it only been tested on "a few specific new ones"? lol They add accuracy to hits past the first, so they're entirely different. And they don't affect hits past the first on those ws. Those ws carry initial ftp to all their hits. It still only affects the ftp of the first hit. The ws is just different.
So, it's all inconclusive and I should test it sometime I guess. In 6 hours I couldn't prove it doesn't, but in 6 other hours I couldn't prove it does.
Ogier's aren't auto trash for Ukko's, a good number of NM's the Accuracy makes it a best in slot piece. I'm sorry, was it implied that Foldy somehow tested something and Diasetsu is a random person?
If there is a MNK related test the source is probably him. Nothing conclusive came from the thread, at all. I was just saying something to the contrary of what Kaerin said.
And I was calling the link that Pandum posted a random source, no one else. Gear swaps, multi hits, transfer, lol. My head hurts. I just miss the Ukkos before the nerf.
Wouldn't the best way to test it be with Atonement?
That does seem like a smarter way to do it, but I was out doing Relic bonus as well and haven't thought much about trying again since my last post.
I'll do atonement sometime today. Another (possibly better since Atonement might work weirdly) option would be to use Refulgent Arrow on SAM/RNG.
I'm curious why Oneiros Ring would be considered bad because of losing 100 HP when Rancor Collar is good with +10% damage taken, thats more then 100 HP worth of damage before you die, unless you rate 5% crit rate that much more superior to 2% triple attack for TP, which may be true, but in either case i don't think i would blame either if i died, specially in voidwatch.
You can take Rancor Collar off.
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True, but you can also use damage reduction gear when your going to take damage, in voidwatch i don't see it as a problem if using fanatics drink and damage reduction when fanatics is down, and not many other events have monsters that are going to one shot me aside from possibly legion, which i have yet to do.
Cerberus.Mindi said: » What are best/good Atmacite combinations now in VW? Only missing the T2 Atmacites atm from ToA and CoP so wondering which is now worth to Upgrate to max to use on WAR. Atm i only have Dicipline/Coercion/Provwatcherone to max but especially the SaveTP one seems more and more pointless cause latly all COR's do Choas/Fightersroll.. if there is a COR at all. When i am on COR i allways do Choas/Miser but dunno why so many others refuse to do Miser now in VW D: This please, would really like to know which atmacites WARs are using, thanks! Asura.Fiv said: » True, but you can also use damage reduction gear when your going to take damage, in voidwatch i don't see it as a problem if using fanatics drink and damage reduction when fanatics is down, and not many other events have monsters that are going to one shot me aside from possibly legion, which i have yet to do. Maybe it's because I'm taru but I find the HP for all my jobs more useful than mp for a melee job that's never going to use it except to activate a latent during TP, but that's just me. Ashandarei said: » This please, would really like to know which atmacites WARs are using, thanks! I use Coercion, Valiant and Provenance, but I don't think it's the most effective set for DD, I just like the reraise when things go bad and regain/acc for shitty proc weapons like 1 handed axe. Discipline, Coercion, Valiant
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You guys have any info on the setup with Portho's Byrnie/Ravager Mask +2? My friend claims it's better then Empyrean +2/Zelus combo. Just need some answers if it's better or not.
Siren.Novadragon said: » You guys have any info on the setup with Portho's Byrnie/Ravager Mask +2? My friend claims it's better then Empyrean +2/Zelus combo. Just need some answers if it's better or not. Asura.Kaisuko said: » Siren.Novadragon said: » You guys have any info on the setup with Portho's Byrnie/Ravager Mask +2? My friend claims it's better then Empyrean +2/Zelus combo. Just need some answers if it's better or not. I'd say depends on accuracy. It's clearly not even close for T6+, probably better for T3- Asura.Leonlionheart said: » Asura.Kaisuko said: » Siren.Novadragon said: » You guys have any info on the setup with Portho's Byrnie/Ravager Mask +2? My friend claims it's better then Empyrean +2/Zelus combo. Just need some answers if it's better or not. I'd say depends on accuracy. It's clearly not even close for T6+, probably better for T3- You mean on Voidwatch? Siren.Novadragon said: » Asura.Leonlionheart said: » Asura.Kaisuko said: » Siren.Novadragon said: » You guys have any info on the setup with Portho's Byrnie/Ravager Mask +2? My friend claims it's better then Empyrean +2/Zelus combo. Just need some answers if it's better or not. I'd say depends on accuracy. It's clearly not even close for T6+, probably better for T3- You mean on Voidwatch? Yeah Edit: It's probably worse on Legion, and better on Nyzul too. Would also depend on how you're making up the lost STP.
Ah ok well he mostly wants explanation why really. He knows Armada Hauberk with augments will clearly win.
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: » Would also depend on how you're making up the lost STP. Still gunna go with no, it's not. I mean maybe if restraint is down and your acc/atk is capped. But even then I see standard restraint down sets as being better.
Siren.Novadragon said: » You guys have any info on the setup with Portho's Byrnie/Ravager Mask +2? My friend claims it's better then Empyrean +2/Zelus combo. Just need some answers if it's better or not. I would assume it's something like this: Which wouldn't be all that bad for weak content when restraint is down. And if we're talking about it vs just using 4/5 AF3+2 with goading belt, blitz ring, zelus etc, This set would win unless you needed the extra accuracy the other has. This is the set I'm saying it would beat. 20~ ACC and restraint enhancement vs 4 STR 3 Crit rate 4 DA 2 TA and 7~ ATT Siren.Novadragon said: » Edit: Uses Houyi's gorget for neck with the goading belt. Tell him to use Tyrant ring and Rancor collar unless he can't deal with +10% damage taken, then to use Nefarious or Agasaya's or that 3% DA necklace that doesn't exist in my mind. |
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