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Ukko's Fury Setup
 Lakshmi.Eyrhika
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2012-04-17 19:40:08
4mil+ for 75 HP... eh. Effort/reward ratio applies here, especially if you're not on a lot.
Well, to be honest I did notice the - elemental resists quite a bit. When we were spamming Tunga I would constantly get stoned and eat nukes for full damage when everyone else would resist at a good rate. It isn't a -huge- deal, but it is something I have noticed.
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2012-04-17 19:48:01
4mil+ for 75 HP... eh. Effort/reward ratio applies here, especially if you're not on a lot.
Well, to be honest I did notice the - elemental resists quite a bit. When we were spamming Tunga I would constantly get stoned and eat nukes for full damage when everyone else would resist at a good rate. It isn't a -huge- deal, but it is something I have noticed.
something something macro mdt set something something don't stay in tp set during petrification
 Quetzalcoatl.Neisan
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-04-17 19:50:32
Ele resist is C rank skill iirc? -50 drops it down to ~D rank skill at 99 iirc, or roughly what your eleresist was at level 92. I think you're eyeballing but it's Tunga.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2012-04-17 19:54:06
Asura.Leonlionheart said: »4mil+ for 75 HP... eh. Effort/reward ratio applies here, especially if you're not on a lot.
Well, to be honest I did notice the - elemental resists quite a bit. When we were spamming Tunga I would constantly get stoned and eat nukes for full damage when everyone else would resist at a good rate. It isn't a -huge- deal, but it is something I have noticed.
something something macro mdt set something something don't stay in tp set during petrification
Getting fools drinks in between Tunga windows makes spell spam less annoying. It doesn't reset hate from what I can tell since you resist petrify.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-04-17 19:59:48
Hate is tied to being slowed, not being petrified
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-04-17 21:28:46
4mil+ for 75 HP... eh. Effort/reward ratio applies here, especially if you're not on a lot. Way to spendy for my poor ***. Would give a lung for one though.
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By Phoenix.Suji 2012-04-17 21:30:08
Bismarck.Bloodbathboy said: »4mil+ for 75 HP... eh. Effort/reward ratio applies here, especially if you're not on a lot. Way to spendy for my poor ***. Would give a lung for one though. That would probably impact your lifting.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-04-17 21:34:07
I don't know!! Maybe worth it. I feel 253 lbs @ 8%BF< than a good Ukko's set up sometimes!!
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2012-04-17 21:43:59
Asura.Leonlionheart said: »4mil+ for 75 HP... eh. Effort/reward ratio applies here, especially if you're not on a lot.
Well, to be honest I did notice the - elemental resists quite a bit. When we were spamming Tunga I would constantly get stoned and eat nukes for full damage when everyone else would resist at a good rate. It isn't a -huge- deal, but it is something I have noticed.
something something macro mdt set something something don't stay in tp set during petrification
Yeah, but the point is not to get stoned in the first place, PDT set when you are, derpa. MDT for chainspell, sure, but I would catch some nukes while trying to proc.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-04-17 21:54:08
I hate Tunga. That little tick has killed me so many times. Fools and fanatics his ***!!
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-04-17 23:45:46
4mil+ for 75 HP... eh. Effort/reward ratio applies here, especially if you're not on a lot.
Some guy had the nq phos in his bazaar for 20m...I lol'd
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By Lakshmi.Zaps 2012-04-18 16:26:21
High-Mid-level: This also functions as your +ACC set:
Best:
Been meaning to ask, The Tyrants ring / 7haste belt combo frees up a body slot for any body.
Because you already meet the requirements to maintain your hit build, and are haste capped.
How do other body's compare when acc isnt an issue? I'm not really in a very good position to go get an HQ abj body and then augment the hell out of it.
Phorcy's body?
Ares's?(i really want this to be usable again, get to the salvage update already damnit!)
Emp+2?
lolTwilight?
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-04-18 16:32:01
The reason Ada/Armada and Shadow/Valk are used are because of their potent accuracy/attack ratings, base stat bonuses, coupled with DA/TA. Losing any of those traits is a loss.
Phorcy loses Acc/DA;TA
Ares' loses Acc/DA;TA
Emp loses base stats/DA;TA
Twilight loses att/DA;TA
That new Byrnie body has TA and haste, but loses out everywhere else for example.
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By Lakshmi.Zaps 2012-04-18 16:41:48
i knew they would be a loss, but not everyone has access to Ebodies and Odin drops (weather it be by choice or otherwise). So was more looking at what other bodies could be put in place of them while not looking like an idiot.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-04-18 16:43:56
If you need DEX or acc, Twilight will serve you well. Emp+2 is a good medium between acc and attack. Phorcy is all out attack, but it's essentially the same as TP'ing in a stronger Grim Cuirass. Nothing else comes to mind for me, besides Fulad.
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-04-18 16:43:57
i knew they would be a loss, but not everyone has access to Ebodies and Odin drops (weather it be by choice or otherwise). So was more looking at what other bodies could be put in place of them while not looking like an idiot. I'd probably stick with +2 body. If you have askar, can use it when acc is capped.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-04-18 16:44:25
Phorcy's is probably the best of the non valkyrie's/armada.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-04-18 16:47:23
If you can't swing Shadow or Adaberk though, Phorcy is a long-shot.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-04-18 16:48:52
Not really. Takes 30 minutes to get phorcys, definitely takes longer depending on drop rates to get valkyrie's, and unless you have a crapload of gil to burn on nidhogg pops, armada won't come quickly either.
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By Fupafighters 2012-04-18 16:50:25
Not really. Takes 30 minutes to get phorcys, definitely takes longer depending on drop rates to get valkyrie's, and unless you have a crapload of gil to burn on nidhogg pops, armada won't come quickly either. Think what you meant to say is "Phorcys takes 30 minutes cheating and using proper setups with skilled players". Anyone can buy valkyrie or armada.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-04-18 16:50:29
A lot of folks are simply shut-down in Neo-Nyzul. I've only seen four successful groups thus far on my server, one of which was a group I went with.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-04-18 16:51:47
Not really. Takes 30 minutes to get phorcys, definitely takes longer depending on drop rates to get valkyrie's, and unless you have a crapload of gil to burn on nidhogg pops, armada won't come quickly either. Think what you meant to say is "Phorcys takes 30 minutes cheating and using proper setups with skilled players". Anyone can buy valkyrie or armada. No, if you cheat, it takes 20 minutes. And if he can get phorcys salade, no reason he can't, or shouldn't have the body.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-18 16:51:52
Not really. Takes 30 minutes to get phorcys, definitely takes longer depending on drop rates to get valkyrie's, and unless you have a crapload of gil to burn on nidhogg pops, armada won't come quickly either. Think what you meant to say is "Phorcys takes 30 minutes cheating and using proper setups with skilled players". Anyone can buy valkyrie or armada.
lol
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-04-18 16:55:48
Using proper setups?
Seems questionable
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By Odin.Tsuneo 2012-04-18 17:03:59
Not really. Takes 30 minutes to get phorcys, definitely takes longer depending on drop rates to get valkyrie's, and unless you have a crapload of gil to burn on nidhogg pops, armada won't come quickly either. Think what you meant to say is "Phorcys takes 30 minutes cheating and using proper setups with skilled players". Anyone can buy valkyrie or armada. ITT there are cheats to bypass the 30 minute limit.
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-04-18 17:08:59
Kind of unreasonable to say, as a general statement, that getting Phorcy's only takes 30 mins. Most people will *not* get it in 30 mins, not to mention possibly days to weeks depending on how often they do it.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-18 17:13:23
If they aren't within the means of obtaining a Phorcys Korazin then I sincerely doubt they're in any place to afford a properly augmented Valkyrie's Breastplate or Armada Hauberk.
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-04-18 17:13:38
Ragnarok.Chronosphere said: »Well, if they technically win 'once', it is only 30m
edit: ok like 32m running back and forth Well sure, if they actually get to floor 100, I'm not debating on whether or not you get a reward for completing that...
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-04-18 17:13:56
Kind of unreasonable to say, as a general statement, that getting Phorcy's only takes 30 mins. Most people will *not* get it in 30 mins, not to mention possibly days to weeks depending on how often they do it. And the same can be said about abj. from odin. You could buy fafnir/nidhogg pops all day, sure, but that's not going to be cheap. But if he can get a salade, I don't see why he can't get the body.
Hello, i'm almost halfway on my ukon so i just started thinkin about some possible WS sets, but well, i'm not sure what i should build, STR or DA Crit ecc.
Any suggestion is appreciated ^-^
1st set mainly focused on str could be like this :
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/205175
2nd set with some more DA Crit% and Crit dmg :
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/205179
i'm also thinkin about Twilight helm and Ares's flanchard
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