Ukko's Fury Setup

I assume this is in refferance to the 'weak mobs can cap dDEX Ukkos sets' Since we're referring to weak old content mobs, 5% attack doesn't matter, since you're a warrior and with any sort of buffs at all your attack is capped. What we're really looking at is 9 STR and 7% WS damage VS 3%DA 2%TA 1%QA.

We also need to look at what I actually said.

Pretty much even with it, as in, within 1-2% damage. If you want to make an argument that its worth having a situational WS set to a situational WS set to maybe gain 30~ damage on your WS average, thats all you. But personally, I don't think it would be worth the 1 inventory slot or extra effort required to use it.


And I would love to see you do anything other than try and condemn other people and act like an arrogant SOB when you have nothing to brag about.

Still waiting for that math. Antagonistic hyprocrisy so soon does not bode well though.

EDIT: Here, I'll even get you started. Identify all the components in the following equation and tell me what the result is.

(3.1+(3*0.01+2*0.99*0.02+1*0.99*0.98*0.25)*2)/(((3.1+(1*0.22)*2)*1.07)=?

I didn't brag about anything, just curious to see your math.

Ah come on guys. Can't we Ukkon WARs get along. Everyone has option, and everyone has a preference. Thank you all for posting!!

the result is a number.

Original set used as a basis, we'll call it #1.


#2
Restraint up TP set.


#3


#4


#5
Accuracy TP set.


#6
Restraint down TP set.


Whats the difference between #1 and #2?
#2 gains 3% extra attacks and 14 attack. Looks like #2 is better since it gains stuff over #1.

Whats the difference between #1 and #3?
#3 gains 1% extra attacks, and could potentially be easier for some people to get than #1. Which was the whole point behind creating it and posting it.

Whats the difference between #1 and #4?
#4 gains 6 attack and could potentially be easier for some people to acquire, which was its entire point and why I created it and posted it.

Whats the differance between #5 and the others?
#5 adds a ***ton of accuracy, while maintaining the 6 hit, and not giving up all that much compared to the others, 4% extra attacks at most, but you gain a bit of attack overall, as well as something like 60 accuracy depending on which set you're comparing it to. gaining 60 accuracy is going to be around a 30% hit rate increase, the purpose of this set is that I fought the colibri VWNM in Mamook yesterday and noticed my accuracy was 70% against it. If I had been using this set with Ravagers orb instead of fire bomblet my accuracy would of been capped, and I would of gained a good 25% damage, and that's what this set is for, mobs you need tons of accuracy against. This is probably the best accuracy set possible, but the purpose of this thread is to discuss this stuff, or at least I thought it was, but hey whatever, it's fun being correct right out of the gate and watching you all emorage about it. But anyway, if you can't figure out this common sense stuff then I guess there's no hope for any of you.

Whats the difference between #6 and #2?
Comparing it to #2 because thats what matters, the only difference is the gloves, you're giving up a bunch of accuracy to gain 17 attack and 2% double attack, and a few points of STR. It seems pretty obvious to me that if restraint is down and you don't need the accuracy AF3+2 gloves provide, than Phorcys gloves will at least net you 2% extra attacks over AF3+2 gloves and that makes them better. This holds true for all the sets I didn't list gloves for as well, AF3+2 for when restraint is up, Phorcys when it's down as long you don't need the accuracy.

There's your math, happy now?

Supporting your assertions is generally considered good form, whether up front or on request. Repeated failure to furnish such support undermines credibility.

I love you, BBB, no homo.

Just a quick question. I know this may sound weird, but with the 2 new phorcys, can't warrior 5 hit alot easier and maintain haste cap? Or is the 5 hit not worth it with phorcys.

arguing math with nightfyre and austar? this is unlikely to end well for you brah, better walk away

cute! platypus <3

mostly just makes claims about how he's "mathed things out" to be better than something else, but won't ever provide proof when asked.

Personally haven't looked too deeply at the builds so the fact that multiple swaps were employed may open things up a bit, but I'm really just looking for evidence one way or the other as opposed to a baseless claim and a lot of unprovoked attitude. I have no numbers of my own to state which is better right now, though I can certainly get them if needed.

I don't think it's worth it. Back when the stats were a little stronger (early test server datmines) it might have been, but even then it wasn't a huge gain.

Most of the time mathing things out completely isn't useful, you can just look at the differences between sets, notice one gains stuff over another and instantly know its superior, I'm sorry you don't get that, but if you look up a few posts you can see my math behind the TPs sets.

I haven't seen any math behind anything you've ever said, ever.

Look up a few posts like I said earlier. It's right there for ya.

I see no math in any of those posts.

Disingenuous given that it's a substantial edit. Still waiting on WS math.

You did not do math.

God I am *** up and I know that isn't math.

Pointing out what one set gains over another is not math, you heard it here first courtesy of Austar the amazing.

Are you actually going to post something of value or are you just wasting our time?

Except that when I made the post originally I said I would be doing it? Then afterwards I pointed out nicely that I had the math posted a few posts up.

hello we want your ws math, I already posted TP sets, nobody cares

The sets I posted are of great value, they are good alternatives to TP sets that are available and even give slight increases in damage. Are you and Austar ever going to post anything of value in the thread or are you just going to continue trying to put me down for being right?

I'll take that as wasting our time. You've failed to deliver the evidence people actually cared about in favor of a wall of self-evident text and been incredibly snarky about it the entire time.

How to non-sequitur 101:

Claim: Your WS sets are awful.
Response: My TP sets are fine!
Follow up: Show us your WS math.
Response: Look, my TP sets are better, stop attacking me!

When you can tell me the DPS of each set, and show your work, maybe then I'll take your posts seriously. All you've done is stated obvious differences in each set.

I'd also like to note that I have not once taken sides concerning the sets involved or done anything except request data, yet this is the respose I get:

Except if you look at my original post you can see that at no point did I ever claim anything listed in that post was "the best." I was asking if those were still best or if something else came along that was better.

Here let me repost it for you so you can see

Notice how at the end I ask "Am I missing anything?"
Then I point out that I know my 135 dDEX set is poopy with new gear thats out and that I didn't look through stuff yet, which also implies that I will.

Now, the only thing I claimed was better was the new TP sets I posted, which I provided math/reasoning behind, they all gain attack/extra attacks over the old sets.

The only claims I made about WS sets was this:

Which I followed up with this:

In this post you can see I clearly point out differences between the sets and say that to me it's not worth the +1 inventory or the effort of making the set/using it. If it's worth it to you, then by all means, get to it.

Maybe you should learn to read what people say before you try and roll up all high and mighty and accuse them of saying things they didn't?

You do realize this is the part everyone's on your case about, right? Don't try to confuse the issue.