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 Bismarck.Bloodbathboy
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-16 16:59:52
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
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Brb while I go change my pants.
Jealous of those aguments !!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Antz 2012-03-27 05:24:40
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So just out of curiosity, still going to be Grim+1 and Mekira-Oto+1(When active) as Ukko's pieces?

Just got Ukon so looking for optimal WS pieces currently not inc Neo Nyzul.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Seveth 2012-03-27 10:02:48
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Phorcys Korazin and mekira+1 fo sho.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-27 10:15:48
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I need to get both of those. Got Grims and it works. But something better is always nice!!
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-28 00:18:45
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Drachenhorn > Mekira-oto +1 when inactive and attack is not capped. And as usual, Ravager's Mask +2 when it is. (Now you get to alternate 3 WS pieces, yay!)
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-28 00:55:29
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
Drachenhorn > Mekira-oto +1 when inactive and attack is not capped. And as usual, Ravager's Mask +2 when it is. (Now you get to alternate 3 WS pieces, yay!)
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By Gimpness 2012-03-28 02:08:02
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sooo... was thinking... (assuming acc's capped)

how would this:


assuming hands have at least 1 haste


or this:


assuming hands have at least 4 (I think... too lazy to check lowest value possible) stp. I guess could use ogier hands and faz +1 helm, but that doesn't look like it'd be better.


compare to:


replace phasmida with ninurta's


for when restraint's down. Again, assuming acc's capped.

trying to decide if it's still worth it to dish out 10-15mil on armaberk (assuming price doesn't drop with crafting cap increase)
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By Quetzalcoatl.Seveth 2012-03-28 08:32:09
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Gimpness said: »
sooo... was thinking... (assuming acc's capped)

how would this:


assuming hands have at least 1 haste


or this:


assuming hands have at least 4 (I think... too lazy to check lowest value possible) stp. I guess could use ogier hands and faz +1 helm, but that doesn't look like it'd be better.


compare to:


replace phasmida with ninurta's


for when restraint's down. Again, assuming acc's capped.

trying to decide if it's still worth it to dish out 10-15mil on armaberk (assuming price doesn't drop with crafting cap increase)

If Restraint is up, as stated before, you're gonna want to have Rvg. Mufflers +2 equipped for sure.
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By Gimpness 2012-03-28 15:27:17
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Quetzalcoatl.Seveth said: »
Gimpness said: »
for when restraint's down.

If Restraint is up, as stated before, you're gonna want to have Rvg. Mufflers +2 equipped for sure.

yea, when it's down though D:<
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By Valefor.Corvin 2012-03-28 15:44:39
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Is there a new Restraint up set?
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-30 03:39:33
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And throw on Ravager's Mufflers +2 for Restraint up.

Valkyrie >/= Fulad-zereh pending fSTR > Armada Augment. Now that Phorcys Salade is available with the STP offered, Valkyrie pulls ahead a bit more than it did (the difference is now a tad more than minuscule), even on higher level content.

Bullwhip is obviously fine. No more excessive swaps.

And before someone gets the fun idea to try a five hit with Ukonvasara: no, still not worth it.
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-03-30 10:48:31
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: »


And throw on Ravager's Mufflers +2 for Restraint up.

Valkyrie >/= Fulad-zereh pending fSTR > Armada Augment. Now that Phorcys Salade is available with the STP offered, Valkyrie pulls ahead a bit more than it did (the difference is now a tad more than minuscule), even on higher level content.

Bullwhip is obviously fine. No more excessive swaps.

And before someone gets the fun idea to try a five hit with Ukonvasara: no, still not worth it.
Do we know where Fulad is from yet?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-30 10:51:22
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It's legion, according to the test sever DATs.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2012-03-30 18:39:54
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
Drachenhorn > Mekira-oto +1 when inactive and attack is not capped. And as usual, Ravager's Mask +2 when it is. (Now you get to alternate 3 WS pieces, yay!)

Forgive the newbie comment but I've always wondered what capped attack was. To me it's even more vague now with 4-digit attack values.

Does it basically depend on the thing you are fighting or whether you have a cor+bard+red curry+berserk+stalwarts and someone angon'd and it makes any enemies defense meaningless at that point.
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2012-03-30 18:51:31
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Basically, there's a point where even if you increase your attack, your damage would stay the same. It's based on various stats of both you and the mob, so it's different between enemies. Once you get to that point, you want to add things that increase double attack, critical hit, stp, etc, instead.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-03-30 18:52:22
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Capped atk for 2handers is having twice the attack as the monsters defense.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-30 19:15:35
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
Capped atk for 2handers is having 2.25 the attack as the monsters defense.

ftfy
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-03-30 19:40:00
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I'm dumb, was getting mixed up with 1handers.
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By Kaerin 2012-03-30 19:59:18
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Restraint up TP set.


Restraint down TP set.


Accuracy TP set.


All are 6 hits, assume 3% triple attack on Valkyrie Breastplate, and STP +5 or 6 with double attack 3% on Armadaberk.

Ukkos Fury inside Abyssea.


Ukkos Fury Outside Abyssea when 135 DEX caps dDEX.


Ukkos Fury Outside Abyssea when you cannot easily cap dDEX.


Ukkos Fury Outside Abyssea when you need accuracy.


For the last set, know that my Valkyrie Breastplate is augmented with accuracy+10 (for a total of +16 accuracy) and triple attack +3%. This set is for when you need to use the heavy +accuracy TP set listed above.


Am I missing anything?
EDIT::: I'm sure my 135 DEX set needs some work, but haven't looked through the new items very much.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-30 20:23:00
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You have some nice stuff . Great job man.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-03-30 20:35:36
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You'd be much better off using Twilight Helm than Armadaberk in your dDEX set.
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By Kaerin 2012-03-30 21:01:31
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
You'd be much better off using Twilight Helm than Armadaberk in your dDEX set.

After looking through new items, I've decide on these 2 sets.

This set is 134 DEX for cats


This set is 141 DEX for cats

(rest of you races can suffer since you fail at picking the good race)

The 141 DEX set should be pretty much even with the 134 DEX set even if the 134 set caps crit rate though, so it might not be worth the effort to make the 134. This also has the adverse effect of giving notcats a better set to work with too when it comes to weak old content you can cap crit rate on pretty easy.
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By Kaerin 2012-03-30 21:42:29
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I was trying to come up with something people without Valkyrie body could use that would beat the old sets.

By old sets, I mean this.

And I decided on this

Provided you can actually get the hat, and the body. But the body isn't the super rare drop, so it shouldn't be to difficult. And it even leaves gloves slot open for AF3+2 or Phorcys gloves.


This probably wouldn't be horrible either, you gain a bit of attack over the old set at least.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-30 21:43:42
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no (except the last set)
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-30 21:48:34
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I'm curious to see the math behind your sets, Kaerin.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-03-30 21:50:19
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I would absolutely love to see the math behind bodies that aren't Phorcys in low-acc WS sets.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-03-30 21:56:06
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You can just make up 7WSDMG and 5%Attack elsewhere
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-30 21:58:36
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I would love to get that body off the last set!! Must get into a good LS!! Quick question please. If your fighting a mob with high EVE would you use light belt or take the chance with Windbuffet Night??
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-30 22:01:37
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Light Belt.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-30 22:03:10
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
Light Belt.
Thanks Jin. Glad I didn't toss it!!
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