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 Fenrir.Jinjo
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-09 16:00:34
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+4% with 0 STR would be worse.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-09 16:15:01
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Jin for the win!! Thx for the answer.
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By Alexander.Kryptonitic 2012-03-09 21:38:55
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Ty Jin, ignoring Acc, Do you know how must Str would be needed with 4% to > 3% + 3str?
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-03-12 17:34:01
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Was bored so I was messing with gear sets and came up with this for Restraint down.



Was wondering how it compared to the usual set:




Comparing the swapped pieces, the gear set I made gains in acc by 6(kind of ignoring this though since if you're not capped acc, you'll be using a different set), 6 more attack, 2 more STR, and addition of triple attack+3%(and possibly zanshin?) from aug'd Valk's. It loses 2% DA and 3% crit rate though.
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By Leviathan.Pandur 2012-03-12 17:38:31
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war can't equip nomkahpa
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-03-12 17:41:08
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lol fail :/
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-12 17:47:45
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Thanks for the try Kia!!
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-03-12 17:54:01
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Is what my friend Kaerin uses. I believe he said it maths ahead of the standard seiryu kote/faz set, but I haven't actually done any math myself.

Edit: I assume he has macros for rancor collar depending on situation.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-03-12 19:23:19
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I need a Tyrants ring to!!
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By Ragnarok.Ejiin 2012-03-12 23:49:43
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Odin.Sawtelle said: »


Is what my friend Kaerin uses. I believe he said it maths ahead of the standard seiryu kote/faz set, but I haven't actually done any math myself.

Edit: I assume he has macros for rancor collar depending on situation.

Faz combo is marginally (1.03%) better when Acc is capped.

Valk augment needs 6 acc or more to beat other options(sets using armada hauberk) for higher evasion mobs (level 110, 470 evasion, 110 AGI) when restraint is down and Acc uncapped. The higher level the mob and more evasion it has (or when aggressor is down), a more Acc focused set(armada hauberk) pulls ahead, though.

Edit: If they actually do fix Nyzul this update and F100 gear becomes more realistic, along with the fact the .dat mined bodies being generally terrible for WAR, Valk (with TA+3) is the best TP body assuming Acc from Armada isn't needed:

Restraint Up.


Restraint Down.

Can replace Bullwhip with the new 7/8% crafted belt that should be coming out this update.
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2012-03-13 02:12:27
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I'm confused, is there a difference between berserk up and down sets anymore?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-13 02:14:30
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Yes, about 25% attack.
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2012-03-13 02:21:55
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So then no. There is no difference between berserk up and down sets in terms of gear?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-13 02:23:47
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Not really, since you'll usually cap attack with berserk, and you stack with aggressor. With aggressor down, you usually focus on more accuracy.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-03-13 02:25:20
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There are no sensible options to support doing so that maintain a 6-hit, high accuracy and capped haste.
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2012-03-13 02:54:11
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Ok, that's what I thought. Thanks for confirmation.
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By Titan.Cromber 2012-03-15 18:22:07
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TP Set?

Replace Goading with phasmida once I get it and Tyrant's. Moonshade is regain +1

Thoughts?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-03-16 04:29:47
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Drop the moonshade and get real augments.
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2012-03-16 04:41:30
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Probably better than a 4/5 AF3 build for an accuracy setup, but not as good as armada build. As for trash mobs/non-T6, I don't think it's better than the radiant build
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By Bismarck.Nooblet 2012-03-16 06:30:20
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If i no ebody or Faz R/e is this the best set for TP?

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By Odin.Sheelay 2012-03-16 06:33:04
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That's the standard TP set. You don't need Tyrant to 6hit. Either you use Goading/Blitz or Phasmida/Tyrant to fully cap Haste
 
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By Bismarck.Nooblet 2012-03-16 06:40:19
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Odin.Sheelay said: »
That's the standard TP set. You don't need Tyrant to 6hit. Either you use Goading/Blitz or Phasmida/Tyrant to fully cap Haste

Thanks, if i get ebody should I then be looking at this?



Any improvements?
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By Odin.Sheelay 2012-03-16 06:45:48
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Josiahkf said: »
Odin.Sheelay said: »
That's the standard TP set. You don't need Tyrant to 6hit. Either you use Goading/Blitz or Phasmida/Tyrant to fully cap Haste
How would his set do with relic hands +2 instead? or only viable when berserk is down?

Depending on what content he is doing (Aby/Old stuff VS VW) they'd either be an improvement or a downgrade to a Restraint Down set.
The set is really basic though, so there would be many routes to improve it depending on what other gear he can get in the future.

Bismarck.Nooblet said: »

Thanks, if i get ebody should I then be looking at this?



Any improvements?

Yeah.

Edit: As for the improvements, it depends on how hardcore you want to go with WAR, meaning taking your time to make multiple TP/WS sets depending on the buffs you have and the content you are in. For quick reference I'd suggest you read up on the last few pages from this topic and pay attention especially to Eijiin's sets. He is pretty thorough with them and the reasons behind them.
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By Kaerin 2012-03-16 07:56:01
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Valk augment needs 6 acc or more to beat other options

You mean something like this?






These are the sets I use, except the last, ignore the Bravura, I will use that set once the stopper is added and I get the hat though.

EDIT: Also, Valk guantlets are so much cooler then Phorcys if you can get them, and get DA3 and a bunch of STR on them, goes up to 9STR as far as I know.
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By Ragnarok.Ejiin 2012-03-16 09:10:29
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I didn't know Valk guantlets could go up to 3%. That makes them a solid contender versus Phorcys(when they have str+9 DA+3). Although, assuming set bonus is +2 str, I still have Phorcys ahead when Acc is capped. (ie. you don't need the 4 acc on Valk) If you do need the Acc from Valk to cap, Valk has a slight advantage.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-03-16 09:19:47
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Kaerin said: »

Brb while I go change my pants.
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2012-03-16 09:19:59
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*** 10 accuracy Valks. 6-7 mil in tatters and I'm sticking with my 8 acc, 3 triple attack body.
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By Kaerin 2012-03-16 14:22:17
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Phoenix.Neosutra said: »
*** 10 accuracy Valks. 6-7 mil in tatters and I'm sticking with my 8 acc, 3 triple attack body.

20~ tatters to get that augement!






But then I had to use 930~ to get DA3 with STP on my armadaberk, so it kinda evens out =/
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