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Ukko's Fury Setup
Phoenix.Bomber
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By Phoenix.Bomber 2012-01-29 20:15:29
Ragnarok.Chronosphere said: »
Switch Ninurta's to Phasmida if ACC is needed (or if you don't have Ninurta's, obv) Thats a hilarious avatar
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-01-29 20:53:26
Ragnarok.Chronosphere said: »
Switch Ninurta's to Phasmida if ACC is needed (or if you don't have Ninurta's, obv) Isn't Seiryu Kote/Mars's better than Rvg. Mufflers/Tyrant's?
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By Fenrir.Evildemon 2012-02-08 21:40:25
Ok so I just finished Ukon finally tonight, and I don't have everything I need yet. Looking to spend between 1 and 1.5 mil currently for improvements on ukko's set. Also looking for item advice towards a 5-hit set-up. My ebody has da +1, and my heca mitts have crit dmg +1, plan on +1 those if byakko puts out.
Tp set-up
Ukko's set-up
Edit: Was able to get a pair of Bellicus Cuisses with weapon skill damage +2% if that's better than what I have or readily available for now.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-02-09 06:16:09
TP set: Post right above yours. don't bother with 5 hit.
WS: Avant+1 Cuisses, Rancor Mantle, and assuming no accuracy issues Windbuffet Belt/Beir+1 and Grim Cuirass should pull ahead of what you're currently using. Pole to Claymore, other upgrades would be Pyrosoul Ring(s) and TP/Attack augmented Moonshade Earring.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2012-02-09 06:25:03
Don't forget rancor collar in the tp phase.
Edit: Neisan covered it already
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By Fenrir.Evildemon 2012-02-09 10:18:13
Quetzalcoatl.Neisan said: »TP set: Post right above yours. don't bother with 5 hit.
WS: Avant+1 Cuisses, Rancor Mantle, and assuming no accuracy issues Windbuffet Belt/Beir+1 and Grim Cuirass should pull ahead of what you're currently using. Pole to Claymore, other upgrades would be Pyrosoul Ring(s) and TP/Attack augmented Moonshade Earring.
I said about a mil to 1.5... can't afford that stuff currently. But otherwise thanks for the suggestions picking up claymore and rancor collar for now.
What kind of a difference will windbuffet make vs the beir +1?
Edit: Also updating gear sets
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By Quetzalcoatl.Seveth 2012-02-09 10:47:19
Quetzalcoatl.Neisan said: »TP set: Post right above yours. don't bother with 5 hit.
WS: Avant+1 Cuisses, Rancor Mantle, and assuming no accuracy issues Windbuffet Belt/Beir+1 and Grim Cuirass should pull ahead of what you're currently using. Pole to Claymore, other upgrades would be Pyrosoul Ring(s) and TP/Attack augmented Moonshade Earring.
I said about a mil to 1.5... can't afford that stuff currently. But otherwise thanks for the suggestions picking up claymore now.
What kind of a difference will windbuffet make vs the beir +1? I would say beir belt +1 is contradictive to the weaponskill. -DEX no thanks!
Tp set looks fine. Maybe claymore grip for pole. Ws set: Neck -rancor collar, belt - windbuffet, and then maybe try to find a cheap pair of avant +1. I also think emp+2 legs will outperform ares's til you can afford avant.
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By Fenrir.Evildemon 2012-02-09 12:26:50
Ok so I used all my battle trophies and so far i've gotten 3 pairs of bellicus cuisses that I'd figure i'd ask on
First pair: Weapon skill damage 2%, agi +1 (might keep for apoc if i get feedback for that as well)
Second pair: Crit hit rate +2, Weapon skill damage 1%
Third pair: crit hit rate +3
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-02-09 12:42:37
Do yourself a favor and buy Avant cuisses +1, best Ukko legs unless you need acc. Don't waste time on that trophy ***.
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By Fenrir.Evildemon 2012-02-09 12:54:22
Phoenix.Dramatica said: »Do yourself a favor and buy Avant cuisses +1, best Ukko legs unless you need acc. Don't waste time on that trophy ***.
Like I said for my last 3 posts, I don't have the gil for avant +1 now. I have the nq for ruinator on bst but that's it.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Seveth 2012-02-09 14:09:33
Phoenix.Dramatica said: »Do yourself a favor and buy Avant cuisses +1, best Ukko legs unless you need acc. Don't waste time on that trophy ***.
Like I said for my last 3 posts, I don't have the gil for avant +1 now. I have the nq for ruinator on bst but that's it. Like i said before, EMP +2 legs will suffice til you have the cash to get avant +1. :D
edit: also I think Emp +2 hands will outperform nq hecatomb, even w/ the max 3% crit dmg augment. Plus with 4/5 Ravager's +2 in your WS set there's the chance of getting a set procc, which is always fun!
Should look like this:
If accuracy become an issue sub in elemental belt.
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By Bahamut.Fistandantilus 2012-02-09 14:18:39
What is the deal with prosilio belt? Is it not mentioned as a viable option for waist because whenever you have capped attack the +25 attack it has is nullified? Or because -%5 DA far outweighs the positives of 9str 25 attack?
I'm set up atm for rancor mantle, thunder gorget/belt combo. Would rancor mantle, gorget, prosilio be better? Or the %3 crit neck, rancor mantle, ?? waist be the best option?
Please if you could explain the reasons for w/e you think is the best combo. TY~
By Scwall 2012-02-09 14:21:01
Quetzalcoatl.Seveth said: »Plus with 4/5 Ravager's +2 in your WS set there's the chance of getting a set procc, which is always fun!
#1
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By Quetzalcoatl.Seveth 2012-02-09 14:46:46
occasionally augments double attack? just a semi fun perk til he can afford ideal gear. (unless set procc can't procc on WS, which i haven't heard of).
I was mainly talking @ Evil considering his funds. 1mil-1.5mil = no rancor mantle.
Personally, this is what I have and use:
Also, Zahak's is trash my ***, esp after the ukko's nerf goes through. Although this set is my Berserk up set, i use Grim +1 when it's down.
As for Prosilo, I've heard of people macroing it in on Warrior's Charge.
By Scwall 2012-02-09 14:57:11
#1
Also, set bonus -does not- proc on WS.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Seveth 2012-02-09 15:05:08
Well as you can tell from recent screen shots i am the weakest DD.
Quote: Also, set bonus -does not- proc on WS. Thanks for some useful input, finally.
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-02-09 16:57:00
Why exactly does a 6hit beat 5hit? I know you're giving up some attack/DA etc, but in the end, why does 1 less hit not win?
I'm not trying to say 5hit is better. Just wanna know why and by how much 6hit wins.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2012-02-09 17:01:41
Why exactly does a 6hit beat 5hit? I know you're giving up some attack/DA etc, but in the end, why does 1 less hit not win?
I'm not trying to say 5hit is better. Just wanna know why and by how much 6hit wins.
Well, you pretty much answered your own question.
For the exact values by which a 6hit > 5hit (due to the attack and DA gains) you should probably ask one of the forum's math gurus, unless you want to dig the info that was posted way back explaining them.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Seveth 2012-02-09 17:03:55
Why exactly does a 6hit beat 5hit? I know you're giving up some attack/DA etc, but in the end, why does 1 less hit not win?
I'm not trying to say 5hit is better. Just wanna know why and by how much 6hit wins.
Well, you pretty much answered your own question.
For the exact values by which a 6hit > 5hit (due to the attack and DA gains) you should probably ask one of the forum's math gurus, unless you want to dig the info that was posted way back explaining them. Ya this is probably the best answer. But granted, like most comparisons of gear sets on these forums the difference in damage is not so much of a gap that it blows the other set entirely out of the water.
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-02-09 17:34:30
Why exactly does a 6hit beat 5hit? I know you're giving up some attack/DA etc, but in the end, why does 1 less hit not win?
I'm not trying to say 5hit is better. Just wanna know why and by how much 6hit wins.
Well, you pretty much answered your own question.
For the exact values by which a 6hit > 5hit (due to the attack and DA gains) you should probably ask one of the forum's math gurus, unless you want to dig the info that was posted way back explaining them. Well I didn't answer it if that's what I was asking. lol
I don't see how what little you give up is so detrimental is all. Maybe I missed it, but I've never seen the math for how much 6hit beats 5hit by.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-02-09 21:00:59
Quetzalcoatl.Seveth said: »Well as you can tell from recent screen shots i am the weakest DD.
Quote: Also, set bonus -does not- proc on WS. Thanks for some useful input, finally. It's cause you're galka.
Hello, i'm almost halfway on my ukon so i just started thinkin about some possible WS sets, but well, i'm not sure what i should build, STR or DA Crit ecc.
Any suggestion is appreciated ^-^
1st set mainly focused on str could be like this :
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/205175
2nd set with some more DA Crit% and Crit dmg :
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/205179
i'm also thinkin about Twilight helm and Ares's flanchard
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