EDIT: Should go in mnk forums if it isn't already. Went back and looked it over and remembered the crit rate for CDC was lower at 200/300%.
TP bonus moonshade was even better than I thought, I was assuming it was 2.5% crit rate. Well it will be post nerf at least.
Ukko's Fury Setup
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Ukko's Fury Setup
Just got Bellicus cuisses with +3 crit rate augment. After the nerf, will that beat the other options, even without WS damage+?
So, nerf aside.
Rancor Mantle + Elemental Gorget/Belt? Rancor Mantle + Justicar's Gorget/Pipilaka Belt? Which would provide the better balance at this time? I'm thinking the 2nd choice. However, I'm curious about the effectiveness of Rancor Mantle + Elemental Gorget + Pipilaka Belt. That +3% Critical Hit Torque that has no info seems promising also. Has anyone tried the Windbuffet Belt for WS?
I'm interested in using it for my berserk up set. Currently using Breeze Belt. Ragnarok.Amador said: » So, nerf aside. Rancor Mantle + Elemental Gorget/Belt? Rancor Mantle + Justicar's Gorget/Pipilaka Belt? Which would provide the better balance at this time? What's Justicar's Gorget? Odin.Almont said: » Ragnarok.Amador said: » So, nerf aside. Rancor Mantle + Elemental Gorget/Belt? Rancor Mantle + Justicar's Gorget/Pipilaka Belt? Which would provide the better balance at this time? What's Justicar's Gorget? Something Warrior can't use. Lazily remembered Justicar's, was unsure of gorget or torque. Went with gorget. /didn't care Hm; Yeah, wasn't sure if you meant Justiciar's Torque with that or not.
Excluding bellicus cuisses. Would Avant Cuisses +1 be the best legs? Wouldn't these beat out AF3+2?
Marginal gain over AF3+2.
How do 4crit hecatomb subligar +1 rank against the both?(Acc 5 augment as well, which is relevant for newer T6 VW)
I'd say Hecatomb Subligar wins (Assuming 4% Crit rate on HQ).
DA can proc once on Ukko's, whereas Crit can proc 2-3 times, making each % more potent. Cerberus.Tikal said: » I'd say Hecatomb Subligar wins (Assuming 4% Crit rate on HQ). DA can proc once on Ukko's, whereas Crit can proc 2-3 times, making each % more potent. DA can proc twice, actually.
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What about Hecatomb Subligar +1 with Crit Rate +3?
Phoenix.Neosutra said: » Marginal gain over AF3+2. I have Avant +1 beating everything in all my current sets, even crit+4 heca +1. Are you capping accuracy on all of the new VW nms? I had troubles without aggressor up on rex and ig-alima sometimes.
I'd lean toward the Avant Cuisses +1, though I'd be very interested in seeing some Mathy Deconstruction of the underlying numbers. My understanding was that DA can proc up to twice on a WS. Since Ukko's already has a fairly robust crit modifier (adjustment-inclusive), I'd rather increase my chances of landing additional hits to take advantage of that.
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Any thoughts on how the new Ogier's Breeches stack up?
Phoenix.Dramatica said: » Are you capping accuracy on all of the new VW nms? I had troubles without aggressor up on rex and ig-alima sometimes. I was 92% acc in last Rex parse, but with the constant WS spam, I probably let a few melee hits go off before changing out of WS gear. I guess your fights are only lasting a full aggressor duration anyways, so that makes sense. Was mainly looking at WS accuracy, but your WS average seems normal.
Bismarck.Altar said: » Any thoughts on how the new Ogier's Breeches stack up? Higher tier VW NMs: Berserk Up: Avant +1 > Perfect Bellicus > Ogier's > 4 crit heca +1 > Warrior's +2 > Ravager +2 > Hachiryu Berserk Down: Avant +1 > Heca +1 > Warrior's +2 > Ravager's +2 > Hachiryu > Bellicus > Ogier's Keep in mind, the damage difference between the best and worst is basically 50 damage or less on WS average, but this is how I'd describe leg hierarchy at the moment.
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Wow, I'd have thought Avant +1 / WAR +2 would come out closer together.
It just shows you how close they really are.
Odin.Almont said: » Wow, I'd have thought Avant +1 / WAR +2 would come out closer together. Me too, for sure. I wouldn't even be surprised if they were ahead of Avant +1. But they're both nice, I think. I don't have a Ukon, but I am leaning towards War +2 anyway for their utility... and lower cost. :D Edit: Ragnarok.Ejiin said: » Keep in mind, the damage difference between the best and worst is basically 50 damage or less on WS average, but this is how I'd describe leg hierarchy at the moment. Oh yeah, that's the key right there. Ragnarok.Ejiin said: » Bismarck.Altar said: » Any thoughts on how the new Ogier's Breeches stack up? Higher tier VW NMs: Berserk Up: Avant +1 > Perfect Bellicus > Ogier's > 4 crit heca +1 > Warrior's +2 > Ravager +2 > Hachiryu Berserk Down: Avant +1 > Heca +1 > Warrior's +2 > Ravager's +2 > Hachiryu > Bellicus > Ogier's Keep in mind, the damage difference between the best and worst is basically 50 damage or less on WS average, but this is how I'd describe leg hierarchy at the moment. Fantastic. How about hands? Avant+1 / AF2+2 / AF3+2 / heca+1 with crit damage+4% Which is best for higher tier VNMs? Cerberus.Yannie said: » Fantastic. How about hands? Avant+1 / AF2+2 / AF3+2 / heca+1 with crit damage+4% Which is best for higher tier VNMs? Heca+1 with crit dmg +4% is the best all around. Closest contender is Heafoc.
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Fenrir.Terminus said: But they're both nice, I think. I don't have a Ukon, but I am leaning towards War +2 anyway for their utility... and lower cost. :D I'm still on the fence, but leaning towards WAR +2 for the same reasons. I'd think they'd boost all of the most-used WAR weaponskills nicely. I also do not have an Ukon, but I do have Bravura. Ragnarok.Ejiin said: » Bismarck.Altar said: » Any thoughts on how the new Ogier's Breeches stack up? Higher tier VW NMs: Berserk Up: Avant +1 > Perfect Bellicus > Ogier's > 4 crit heca +1 > Warrior's +2 > Ravager +2 > Hachiryu Berserk Down: Avant +1 > Heca +1 > Warrior's +2 > Ravager's +2 > Hachiryu > Bellicus > Ogier's Keep in mind, the damage difference between the best and worst is basically 50 damage or less on WS average, but this is how I'd describe leg hierarchy at the moment. |
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