Ukko's Fury Setup

WAR can't use Hagneia Stone, I think?

so they cant! well there goes that idea >.>

I was thinking this for VW/Einherjar.



Barring the Pyrosoul Ring and I know Anguinus might be better(Havent bothered for the belt yet) How would these fair outside Abyssea? Decent amount of DEX while focusing on crit rate in general

I went
Grim- Zahaks
Heafoc-> +2 Hands

0/200 on Bellicus Cuisses
29/75 Claws for 90 Ukon

Also out of curiosity, outside of abyssea how close would Ukon WAR and Masamune SAM be? On anything you are constantly fighting (Let us say Ein) Not so much as talking about running in and weapon skilling. Let's just say a certain SAM thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread outside aby. I'd just like to show him different. Parsing an Empy against a WoE weapon is not even in the slightest.

I haven't looked at it since 90 but no matter what I did I couldn't get Anguinus to win in or outside. Beir+1 was pretty competitive/ahead of elebelt outside depending on buffs iirc. If you can get your hands on them augment N hands/legs with crit damage (hands) /rate (legs) and use those in place of empyrean. I'm not sure on Ein monster stats but unless you're benefiting heavily from the dDEX I'd stick to Grim(+1) over Zahak's as well. Use centaurus over ravager's unless you're sure you are attack capped, or get a stat3/4 earring.

Sadly I never actually ran a parse on friend with Masa for various reasons, mainly never being on war when he was on Sam, but Sam gains a lot of ground outside and if you're not completely idiotic Fudo is near fool proof (but not Gekko foolproof). Sam does a lot better thanks to hassozanshin update (do note if you're both getting marches you'll probably be skillchaining off each other - or if he's really slow you can time it to steal his konzen).

I haven't played since 90, but while I was doing Einherjar nothing really came close to me, other than a mnk which was main assist, so he had a head start. I believe there were two Masas, one Vere, and one lolRhon.

I still might have some parses saved, but I'll have to check later. If I recall correctly, one of the Masa sams were absolute trash cause they hardly ever pulled above 5% in basically a single alliance group.

In basic content like Einherjar War beats Sam by a decent margin due to Fell Cleave and strong DoT. As for newer VW NMs, I was surprised to see Sam catching up a bit (still loses, but not embarrasingly). The Save TP atma + regain and constant TP wings meds keep Sam stacked on TP and close the gap more than I expected. Only down side is there aren't that many mobs that you can full DD tank on Sam (or War) in VW atm, as the rest of them are typically "proc red, run in, and zerg it".

Sam is nothing to laugh at though if played correctly.

I don't follow. What current NMs are there that can't be proc'd and killed within 3-5min?

Today for example, we did 8 Kaggen, 8 Uptala, and 8 Qilin, and not one took over 7min to kill and the war(me) only died once in all those fights. All had capped red, possible a few didn't have capped blue, but we don't care about blue anymore.

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Our entire group stopped using cobalt cells a long time ago, I've personally got 3 bodies(on 2 chars) since I've stopped trading cobalt. All blue really seems to do is increase log/ignots/crap, and that's after doing 500+ VW fights, probably 250 w/ cobalt cells and 250 w/o.

I'm in law school now, so half my VW runs are in shout runs, rather than LS runs, which means they last a bit longer. Most of the shout runs I get into ask for some traditional tanks and take about 15 min usually per kill.

Either way, point was that Sam is pretty decent in VW, though War still pulls ahead.

I dunno what kind of sam your parsing against in ein, but in a recent t3 run we done, top 2 DD's were the masamune sams, followed by the ukons. Top sam got 2 songs + cor rolls, 2nd place sam and 3rd place war got 3 songs. Will try get more results but since hassozanshin update, theres no way a war is going to pull ahead much if at all against a sam that has his head screwed on.

I'm not sure if you read your own post, but firstly you had different buffs, so that explains the one SAM a little I guess.
The other SAM being second just means that your WAR was afk/died/you used assist for an unknown reason/he didn't really pay attention, but of course there's always the chance of that WAR being geared for Abyssea still or not geared at all, which would explain that as well. Would help to get more info on those 2 for sure.

i dunno if u even read my post, but notice the "Will try get more results" part?

Agreed that the top sam was getting different buffs, but no1 dies in einherjar and all your doing is speculating on the war being afk and as you said, no1 use's assist.

Do you even know what atmacites either were using? Not that Sam isn't a good DD, but that difference sounds like someone is doing something off. Well, I figured that from the different buffs.

I still have War winning in pure damage, but that isn't accounting for save TP/Miser's. Restraint nerf hasn't gone live either iirc.

Atmacites in Einherjar?! H4X

Meant for VW... ohwait did I read wrong lol, if Ein then no I really don't see Sam winning and bar rolls the Wars were doing something wrong.

haha, kungg better get defending urself! u lost to a gimpsor sam =]

Haha! I'm not not goin to lose sleep over it :3 in the end we win and I don't die so its all good!

Anyone have input into new "best Ukko" builds with some of the newer gear?

Think it's still the same stuff, but I was wondering about these. If the "Increase WS damage" is like 5% I'm assuming it'd put everything else to shame?

It's only 3%.

How does it compare against Belli with 3% crit and 2% ws dmg?
Personally have bad luck with trophies and the best I've gotten is 3% crit and 2% ws dmg, but on separate pairs. :|

they look very nice but im working on af2+2 legs they look very nice

or


For inside/outside :3

Inside Bellicus, outside is going to vary depending on buffs/hitrate.

I still have Perfect Heca+1 with Crit Rate augments if accuracy capped as very good option, the new Ogier's Legs seem a good choice if uncapped accuracy.

Perfect Bellicus should still be good at high pdif/capped accuracy.

I've never found augmented byakko's as a good option in or out.

i hate you for those cuisses :(

Lol xD sorry. Im still Gunna go for the perfect ones tho. I'll continue to use belli unless BR is up then. Don't have heca legs so I might look into other options.