Ukko's Fury Setup

Ive gotten 1 pair with crit hit rate 3 and another pair with ws dmg +2%
but best ive ever gotten togather was crit hit rate 1 ws dmg 2. out of at least 300+ tries. so i said screw it and just after heca legs +1 now

A strong 6 hit is advocated or so I thought. But what are your opinions on a 5 hit build? Is it still worth it even if you don't need tactical mantle?

This is the first I have ever seen or heard about the mythical perfect cuisses.

Sadly I'd rarely get to use war under the normal event circumstances for my LS. Just progressed getting almace done for myself and duo partner so finally will be getting ukko started after finishing off the VNM stage so I can finally put those pants to better use.

So I have finally grown up to start my Ukon :P

0/50 0/50 8/75 365/1500 ^^

Anyway I was wondering about WAR accuracy during VW. My Apoc DRK had a little trouble still with like accuracy +59 or +82 (I dont remember if I switched calmecac to af3+2 which is from -8 acc to +15) on Pil but my BLU had only little problems with +59 accuracy on Akvan (all that counting DEX+ on equip too. BLU probably like +3-4 acc more from DEX+ from spells. Stalwart tonic in both cases too.) Is Pil most evasive VW out there and Akvan is a standard one?

How about this set for WAR for VW?


Could probably switch hands to good augmented Heca for agressor up if accuracy from af3+2 would be overkill.

Anyone see any other good trade offs when accuracy is is slightly overkilled?

What legs I should use before perfect cuisses. Are they really best assuming all possible options like ie: +5STR +4%crit dmg byakko, +5STR +4%crit rate heca+1?

What set would be best for MS up outside?

Something like this? or maybe cavaros instead of atheling?

How about TP set I think something like this could be cool:


I'm even tempted to use Valkyrie (If I ever get it) for WS along with Oneiros ring (if i even decide to merit mp for it). Its a little less acc compered to Armada tho. X hit is irrelevant in this case because with monarch drink/tactican roll/miser roll/save tp+20 atmacite/getting hit its pretty much impossible to predict.

Would love to hear comments lol.

How good are hecatomb subligar with crit rate +4 compared to bellicus and af3 +2 legs?

well looking at strong 6 hit's.. No HQ Adaberk yet so..

Is this worth losing blitz ring for?


Compared to this?



Where do we draw the line when it comes to the .5 haste blitz ring gives us.

Basically, it equates to ~13 attk, 16 STR vs. ~27 acc, .5 Haste. I doubt that 13 attack will make a difference, and I know the STR won't in a TP set, especially in Abyssea, whereas the Haste and Acc will make a difference, especially outside Abyssea.

The 16 STR would translate to about 12 attack though. So if accuracy is capped. wouldn't it basically be 25 attack VS .5 haste?


Edit: In VW the case would def. be different. But let's say for older content and abyssea.

Pretty sure it's .5 attack per STR, but regardless, even if acc was capped, the chance of 25 attack making up the attack round difference that .5 haste causes would be slim. You'd have to be spot-on the thresh-hold, and I doubt that even that would make a large enough difference to sacrifice the haste.

I'm not a math wiz though. On a mob like Qilin, I could see the Haste winning out. On fodder mobs, the attack, in a perfect scenario, could increase DPS more than the haste.

For one handers, sure. 2 handers get .75 attack per str.

You're right, I talked myself out of that while writing the post. I was thinking the 2-hander buff and then when they knocked it down to 1:.75 from 1:1, and somehow went from 1:.75 -> 1:.5

Yeah the 2 handed update adjusts STR/DEX to .75 Attack/Acc I believe.

I guess the way I figure it is this. If accuracy is capped and not a problem. Would you pick a ring that offers one haste? or 16STR/13 Attack. I see people rocking a Mar's Ring/Strigoi so I'm not sure.

Personally, Blitz.

Yeah my apologies. Just getting sick of wearing +2/Askar. Hopefully the 99 update brings some new gear choices. 12 NQ Hauberk synths is kind of discouraging.

I find it more appealing than being stuck in Haubergeon for 6 or so years. If anything, Adaberk is bland to me these days.

i see body and ring switched so grim + tyrant = 30 Attack, 16 STR --> 42 Att. 2nd set has Af3+2 body and haste ring, so 20att/acc, 7 skill (25-27ish att/acc i think ya?)

so difference is -25ish acc, +15 Att, +16STR -0.5haste

tbh, i just use Oneiros ring over haste ring, 2%TA 3ACC but dont ask me which will be a better exchange lol.

but what i think would be really good change to 2nd set would be
Fazheluo Radiant Mail + Fazheluo Helm +1 + Tyrant ring, leaves you at

STR +14 Attack +14 Haste+2% Body
Attack +15 Great Axe Skill +6 Head
Set 5%DA
Attack+8 Ring
8% Haste
___________
14+15+8+5-6ish(Skill)+10Attack=53Att
14 STR 5 DA 5-6ish Acc


this would be 11 more attack, 6 acc 5%DA over your 1st set but 2 STR less (and 5 more evasion.. lol)

0/12 on radiant mail

this other guy is 0/70~100

:< I want that 5% DA so much

yea i am like 0/35ish on Voidwrough... and well 0/250ish on any HQ drop (Bodys on old and new VW...) but well.. thats my luck ^^; VW is depressing lol

but this would be my dreamchange to war tp-set XD

16 STR beside obvious att is also 4fSTR which for 131 dmg weapon is +2.5% total dmg during TP thats more then att from it.

You can use tyrant on second set with phasmida belt. Unless you needed the enm from goading. I didnt really read posts in between i just like to look at pictures forgive me if i missed something

One thing i've been thinking about recently. Would it make sense to try out a "Massive Double Attack Build" for Ukko's?

WAR has 10% DA by Job Trait, then you can merit up to another 5%. And there is alot of gear available that enhances DA these days.
Pole Grip, AF+2 head, AF+2 legs, Epona's, Atheling Mantle, Brutal Earring, AF earring/neck.
And about Body i am not sure, maybe an augumented Armada Hauberk?

So you can bring DA Rate easy up to like 45% with all that gear/trait/merits.

Any thoughts?

starting with war not being able to wear eponas

oh wow, never noticed that (since i don't have the ring i never really checked what jobs...).
But still, you can get it up to the 40+ %

That have no sense. More DA you have less boost will give you more DA.
I could make here big math showing that it have no sense but I will just sum it up with: You need to compare every piece of equip and choose which gives you more avg damage. No STR earring will win with brutal because 4STR wont beat 5%DA but 3% critical hit rate will beat 2% DA(claymore vs pole grips). 90% of what you listed are on WAR WS set anyway because overall they are from the top tier options too wear. Atheling (not because of DA+3% tho but because of da3% AND +20 att), ravager's earring is also used a lot instead of +3str earring, Armada might be very good too but not because of da3% but because of everything on it, etc.

@ Atoreis

thats why i listed it, because most of the DA+ items are on the WS Sets anyway.
I'm not good with all the maths and the mechanisms. I've been away almost 2 years and playing more casual now.

I was just wondering, cause those spike numbers on weaponskills usually come from DA/Crit or both. So why not try to get as much DA? with all possible items/merits you will have 45ish % which means that almost 1/2 of your WS swings should DA, in theory at least.

You're sacrificing stats that affect both DAs and non-DAs for ever-smaller gains in damage, some of which aren't even improvements in damage over the non-DA option to begin with. Because additional DA% adds less to your overall damage as you have increasing amounts of DA, as mentioned previously, this will be most noticeable in such a build as you suggest. They're correct, it's not optimal.

*Crosses out Epona's* :<

Ok first of all, i am sorry to keep beating a dead horse, but there are conflicting informations in this thread and makes me confused.

First of all i wanna ask if is true that elemental belts are not so good for ukko(read somewhere in this or other threads that they affect only the first hit of a ws but seeing people posting all the time in their gear sets).

Second question is regarding the difference between inside and outside abyssea.
Since i started doing outside content again (einherjar/sky/dynamis) i would like to know what is best for outside.
at the moment inside abyss i use this for ws:

(with RR SS VV). Basically trying to get as much str as i can since the atmas buffs up the crit hit dmg/rate.

as for outside i was thinking something like this:

Now, i know from this thread that Dex is as important as str (if not more)for ukko, expecially being elvaan. but wont this crit hit rate pieces be better than twilight ?

thanks in advance guys for replies i hope.