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 Asura.Vyre
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By Asura.Vyre 2012-07-14 20:04:57
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Bismarck.Leonkasai said: »
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Dragoon was boring and useless in most of its incarnations before FFXI.
In FF5, Dragoon was one of the most useful melee jobs in the game to master, providing some nice bonuses to strength and stamina. Admittedly, this doesn't make the job itself useful, but in FF5, the only really useful job was Freelancer; everything else was just a way to get abilities and stats for it.

In FF7, Cid's Limit Breaks were some of the most powerful in the game, and everyone could do everything else anyway so that stuff's a moot point.

In FF9, Freya's Dragon Crest ability can deal max damage while ignoring defence and the Protect status, for a mere 16mp. Not to mention Reis's Wind and Lancer being pretty useful at the start of the game.

In Tactics Advance it was a solid damage dealer with useful support abilities like an Auto-Reraise that proc'd after taking physical damage (Tactics Dragoon also had this) and the ability to make dragon-type enemies leave the battle entirely, alongside it's breath attacks and Lancet.

What makes a job boring is purely opinion, so I'm not even going to touch that. :I

As for XI's Dragoon; I'm guessing we just have different opinions on how they should've used the wyvern. :x

Edit: Longer post than I thought. o_o;
FF5 utility not as good as many other things.

FF7, yeah, Cid's pretty bitchin'

FF9 totally useless. You had to kill a ridiculous amount of Dragon's for Reis's wind to do that. Her Jump also was slain by the way ATB worked for it in that game.

Tactics, timing jump was too much of a pain in the ***. Auto-reraise gained through other means/not needed for anything. :<

You forgot FF3 and FF4, though it wasn't useful in 3, except in the forced useful fight against Garuda.

Kain was useful because DPS was sorely lacking in a lot of ways from Cecil and Rosa. He literally runs circles around Cecil for most of the game with the Avenger, but that was more from the stat growths they gave him than from him being Dragoon.

As for 11: How do you think it should of been implemented :O?

I will agree to disagree! Rawr!
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By Fenrir.Schutz 2012-07-14 20:05:33
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Cerberus.Thunderfang said: »
Wuffie or Mikan :D


Bismarck.Leonkasai said: »
Azure > all other wyvern names. :3

I always did like "Wuffie"...but "Azure" makes the most sense. If they could be another colour, maybe "Mikan" would fit...but they are all blue. ;_;
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By Fyyvoaa 2012-07-14 20:06:16
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I forgot what my wyvern was called lol...


I think it was Ember.
 
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By Asura.Vyre 2012-07-14 20:07:41
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The worst name is Firewing.
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2012-07-14 20:13:21
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Nutcracker is best automation name /nods
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-07-14 20:17:32
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-07-14 20:19:46
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Bismarck.Leonkasai said: »
Azure > all other wyvern names. :3
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2012-07-14 20:21:26
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Wuffi
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By Fyyvoaa 2012-07-14 20:21:30
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gdi I have to go to mor dhona again D:


awesome place... *** of a place to get to lol.


this anima regen ***blows, so *** slow.
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By Bismarck.Leonkasai 2012-07-14 20:22:35
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Asura.Vyre said: »
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FF5 utility not as good as many other things.

FF7, yeah, Cid's pretty bitchin'

FF9 totally useless. You had to kill a ridiculous amount of Dragon's for Reis's wind to do that. Her Jump also was slain by the way ATB worked for it in that game.

Tactics, timing jump was too much of a pain in the ***. Auto-reraise gained through other means/not needed for anything. :<

You forgot FF3 and FF4, though it wasn't useful in 3, except in the forced useful fight against Garuda.

Kain was useful because DPS was sorely lacking in a lot of ways from Cecil and Rosa. He literally runs circles around Cecil for most of the game with the Avenger, but that was more from the stat growths they gave him than from him being Dragoon.

As for 11: How do you think it should of been implemented :O?

I will agree to disagree! Rawr!
I disagree about FF9. 100 dragons wasn't a ridiculous amount given how common Ironites were in/around Burmecia. I'd be surprised if people didn't rack up at least 10 kills there without any optional grinding. :/

As for utility in FF5; give it the Rapid Fire ability and watch the heads roll~ >:3
That combo helped me steamroll World 2.

Never said Jump was useful in Tactics, and in Advance it was an instant ability so didn't have the same problem. And Dragonheart saved my *** from a wipe on several occassions, so it's definitely handy to have, even if it's not "needed". :O
As for other means, Bangaa only have one other ability that bestows Auto-Life and it's an action ability. Dragonheart was a reaction ability so was helpful when facing multiple enemies.

Didn't list 2, 3 or 4 (Ricard in 2 was also a Dragoon) because I don't have any real experience with those games. :x

In XI I think it should've been more about working with your wyvern (giving it an AI and abilities you can skillchain with) rather than just having the wyvern as a proxy for extra job abilities. :I

Edit: Also didn't list Tactics because I haven't gotten to the end yet.
And didn't list Khimari from X because I think he's more of a Blue Mage than a Dragoon. :I
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2012-07-14 20:22:50
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Catnipthief Rygar said: »
gdi I have to go to mor dhona again D:


awesome place... *** of a place to get to lol.


this anima regen ***blows, so *** slow.

In my group we'd take turns teleporting lol. With 4 people it would pretty much never run out.
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By Fyyvoaa 2012-07-14 20:24:06
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Yeah I pretty much solo alot lol >.>



I'd make my friend teleport me but he doesn't have any mor dhona camps unlocked lol.
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By Asura.Chuuuuu 2012-07-14 20:31:39
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i wonder how other other people pronounced it, i always said woooofeee :P
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By Fyyvoaa 2012-07-14 20:32:24
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that sounds about right... maybe ... wuhffie?
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2012-07-14 20:33:43
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I thought it was pronounced George
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By Bismarck.Leonkasai 2012-07-14 20:41:45
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I also pronounce it Woofee, just like Yuffie is Yoofee. :I
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2012-07-14 20:42:25
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I used to play FFXI with this dude that called Chocobos Choke-a-boos.

"Yo bro, I'ma grab a choke-a-boo and ride it to Ba-stook."
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By Asura.Chuuuuu 2012-07-14 20:42:39
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i dunno i never heard other people pronounce it because i was always the only person with a wuffie when i played lol maybe like 1 other person that i saw lol
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By SSJAV 2012-07-14 20:44:01
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aaaand ffxi crashed.
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By Bismarck.Leonkasai 2012-07-14 20:45:23
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Bismarck.Magnuss said: »
I used to play FFXI with this dude that called Chocobos Choke-a-boos.

"Yo bro, I'ma grab a choke-a-boo and ride it to Ba-stook."
Choke-a-bo here... And Ba-stock. :I
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2012-07-14 20:47:16
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Bismarck.Leonkasai said: »
Bismarck.Magnuss said: »
I used to play FFXI with this dude that called Chocobos Choke-a-boos.

"Yo bro, I'ma grab a choke-a-boo and ride it to Ba-stook."
Choke-a-bo here... And Ba-stock. :I
I had another friend who called Ronfaure "Ron-a-foo". ***was hilarious.
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-07-14 20:49:42
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I never enjoyed the wyvern names... >.>; That may be me being slightly bitter for being like 13 when I first unlocked DRG and picking the worst name.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2012-07-14 20:52:15
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Shiva.Spathaian said: »
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I first unlocked DRG
O.o

I'm old.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2012-07-14 20:53:18
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I was 14 when I started playing I think :| /22
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-07-14 20:53:33
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Bismarck.Magnuss said: »
Shiva.Spathaian said: »
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I first unlocked DRG
O.o

I'm old.
I've played the game for 6 years. >.>; I feel old/sad when I think of how much of my life I've put into that game. /lesigh
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2012-07-14 20:57:48
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
I was 14 when I started playing I think :| /22
I keep forgetting that this game has been out since 2001. Still though... I graduated 2 years afterwards. Let me put it this way; when I was 13, the interweb was still in its Tripod, Yahoo and Alta Vista stage. It was still being referred to as the Information Superhighway.

Shiva.Spathaian said: »
Bismarck.Magnuss said: »
Shiva.Spathaian said: »
13
Shiva.Spathaian said: »
I first unlocked DRG
O.o

I'm old.
I've played the game for 6 years. >.>; I feel old/sad when I think of how much of my life I've put into that game. /lesigh
I'm a firm believer that if we had spent our time doing something else, we'd all have doctorate degrees at this point.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2012-07-14 21:00:09
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I remember AltaVista lol >_>
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-07-14 21:01:20
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I sometimes think I would have at least been in a better college if I hadn't of played the game. But then I realize, even if I wasn't playing FFXI I would have probably ended up procrastinating some other way. lmao

Besides, I like to think the game taught me some valuable life lessons and communication skills I wouldn't have gotten otherwise due to my somewhat shy nature.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2012-07-14 21:05:10
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Shiva.Spathaian said: »
I sometimes think I would have at least been in a better college if I hadn't of played the game. But then I realize, even if I wasn't playing FFXI I would have probably ended up procrastinating some other way. lmao

Besides, I like to think the game taught me some valuable life lessons and communication skills I wouldn't have gotten otherwise due to my somewhat shy nature.
Oh, absolutely. The game has helped many people develop social skills, and for many it's also an escape when there's no other vehicle with which to deliver one from. I wouldn't give up those years I played. I had a lot of fun and made a lot of friends along the way. Plus it gave me something to defend as far as causality is concerned. Even if RDM is in lol status now, I'll always have a chapeau in my heart.
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