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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-01-24 17:23:26
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I'm not too worried about quals if I were too look at finding a decent job where I live now (upstate NY) because I know a ton of people in my classes who are working at decent IT jobs up here and literally have no quals. Hell the IT guy for the local Kinney's drugstore didn't know what 802.11 was until class today and he has been working there 2 years. Taking things further though will help me get out of this area, which is definitely something I need to do in order to preserve my sanity.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2012-01-24 17:23:52
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good news, my mom trusts in newegg now. she wants me to find her a netbook up to $200. only problem is atm there are none in stock that run windows =/
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By Artemicion 2012-01-24 17:23:59
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
If you want to write software, portfolio/github/webdev is the way to go.

If you want to design software and interface between levels of programming and management and ***, portfolio/a damn good senior design project with the best documentation on the market.

If you want to build hardware, release an open source driver or at least contribute to a few, stuff like that.

If you want to build videogames and ***like that, get a math minor and prepare for heartbreak.

If you want to do network security, take lots of crypto and discrete courses.

Not that I wanted to do it in the first place, but reading that was rather disconcerting. Also I figured there would need to be a little more than a math major to take part in such a diversified field that is composed of various elements of expertise. ie: Graphic design, software engineering, audio composition and editing, etc.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-24 17:24:02
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and yeah i remember someone at some point saying some thing about people who say they want to be CS majors because they love programming and how its about problem solving and not that
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-24 17:24:12
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
If you want to write software, portfolio/github/webdev is the way to go.

If you want to design software and interface between levels of programming and management and ***, portfolio/a damn good senior design project with the best documentation on the market.

If you want to build hardware, release an open source driver or at least contribute to a few, stuff like that.


If you want to build videogames and ***like that, get a math minor and prepare for heartbreak.

If you want to do network security, take lots of crypto and discrete courses.

see that's my issue, programming is my fatal flaw right now, and I want to do hardware design, then again I don't plan on working for somebody else for more than a few years, just make enough small projects to get by and maybe start a teaching position in about 10y, live simply.

I was once thinking of the IT route but I've since decided that it's not my cup of tea, and I know enough of the gaming market to know that short of maybe contributing at some point to a few indie games I wouldn't really want to get into that.

If I can grasp my mind around programming, I'll probably eventually get a major in computer electronics and minor in physics or chemistry not sure which yet...
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-01-24 17:24:17
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Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
I don't exactly know what I want yet :| i just figured a CS degree would have more options than getting a degree in like history or english (no offense to people with those majors)

You're absolutely right.

CS isn't about programming, btw. It's about problem solving.

Just know that going in.

who said i like programming <_<

Just dispelling the common misconceptions :) A bunch of people left CS in my year because they wanted more programming and less of the other stuff.
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By Asura.Vyre 2012-01-24 17:24:38
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Wrong time to ask for a silly drawn picture of an Eskimo riding a mammoth I guess. o.o; Ya'll are on fire with this programming topic.
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By slipispsycho 2012-01-24 17:24:48
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I wish we could afford to go through a contract carrier.. A friend got a new cell phone a few years back and the Motorola Droid was buy one get one free, it had just been released, and he gave me the second one and payed for the service on it for a while before it became too much and he had to cut some expenses.. I loved that phone =/ I loved the Android market, I didn't have to spend a single dime and there were more games to play than I could really ever utilize.. And it was fast as *** compared to what I had before (very old/basic moto flip phone, took like a minute to send or receive a simple text).
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-24 17:25:00
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If you want to build videogames be prepared to not get jobs because you need experience making videogames to get jobs making videogames
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-24 17:25:42
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I've always held a better understanding and knack for hardware more so than software. Programming, making code and making adjustments therein is something I could do with the right education and courses, but frankly isn't something I would really want to put myself into as far as serious jobs or careers go.

Ideally, I rather work directly with hardware, bloody up my fingers a bit and keep them working/put together.

know anything of electronics?
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-24 17:25:59
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
I don't exactly know what I want yet :| i just figured a CS degree would have more options than getting a degree in like history or english (no offense to people with those majors)

You're absolutely right.

CS isn't about programming, btw. It's about problem solving.

Just know that going in.

who said i like programming <_<

Just dispelling the common misconceptions :) A bunch of people left CS in my year because they wanted more programming and less of the other stuff.

Honestly I enjoy coming up with clever ways to do my projects and learning the different ways people go about things

(I was really excited when I learned about flags <_<;;;)
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-24 17:26:14
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Cerberus.Irohuro said: »
good news, my mom trusts in newegg now. she wants me to find her a netbook up to $200. only problem is atm there are none in stock that run windows =/

what are they running?
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-01-24 17:26:24
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Artemicion said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
If you want to write software, portfolio/github/webdev is the way to go.

If you want to design software and interface between levels of programming and management and ***, portfolio/a damn good senior design project with the best documentation on the market.

If you want to build hardware, release an open source driver or at least contribute to a few, stuff like that.

If you want to build videogames and ***like that, get a math minor and prepare for heartbreak.

If you want to do network security, take lots of crypto and discrete courses.

Not that I wanted to do it in the first place, but reading that was rather disconcerting. Also I figured there would need to be a little more than a math major to take part in such a diversified field that is composed of various elements of expertise. ie: Graphic design, software engineering, audio composition and editing, etc.

How come? Making a graphic is the job of the artists they hire, animating those graphics pretty much takes more math than any modern computer software. It is so artistic in its own right.

The audio engineering will be done by audio engineers; you'll learn software engineering as CS.

But if you want to make the video game, not just make the pictures, you are looking at a loooooooooot of math.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-01-24 17:27:00
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Artemicion said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
If you want to write software, portfolio/github/webdev is the way to go.

If you want to design software and interface between levels of programming and management and ***, portfolio/a damn good senior design project with the best documentation on the market.

If you want to build hardware, release an open source driver or at least contribute to a few, stuff like that.

If you want to build videogames and ***like that, get a math minor and prepare for heartbreak.

If you want to do network security, take lots of crypto and discrete courses.

Not that I wanted to do it in the first place, but reading that was rather disconcerting. Also I figured there would need to be a little more than a math major to take part in such a diversified field that is composed of various elements of expertise. ie: Graphic design, software engineering, audio composition and editing, etc.
Also, you should have one of those specialties if you want to take part. Anything more than that, and you're looking at the business aspect of it instead of the game making itself.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-01-24 17:27:51
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Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
Honestly I enjoy coming up with clever ways to do my projects and learning the different ways people go about things

(I was really excited when I learned about flags <_<;;;)

Then you'll be fine :)

If you can make a function that prints out an integer while only writing chars, in under 10 lines, you can think like a computer scientist. :)

(In c, using only math.h and write())
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By Artemicion 2012-01-24 17:28:19
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Artemicion said: »
I've always held a better understanding and knack for hardware more so than software. Programming, making code and making adjustments therein is something I could do with the right education and courses, but frankly isn't something I would really want to put myself into as far as serious jobs or careers go.

Ideally, I rather work directly with hardware, bloody up my fingers a bit and keep them working/put together.

know anything of electronics?

Not much, just very generalized circuit board and sautering stuff that was done on old parts in my garage years ago. Would need to go to school to even pick up the right direction that such things are involved in.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-24 17:28:47
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
Honestly I enjoy coming up with clever ways to do my projects and learning the different ways people go about things

(I was really excited when I learned about flags <_<;;;)

Then you'll be fine :)

If you can make a function that prints out an integer while only writing chars, in under 10 lines, you can think like a computer scientist. :)

(In c, using only math.h and write())

I'm just starting my class in C D;
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By Artemicion 2012-01-24 17:30:29
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Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Artemicion said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
If you want to write software, portfolio/github/webdev is the way to go.

If you want to design software and interface between levels of programming and management and ***, portfolio/a damn good senior design project with the best documentation on the market.

If you want to build hardware, release an open source driver or at least contribute to a few, stuff like that.

If you want to build videogames and ***like that, get a math minor and prepare for heartbreak.

If you want to do network security, take lots of crypto and discrete courses.

Not that I wanted to do it in the first place, but reading that was rather disconcerting. Also I figured there would need to be a little more than a math major to take part in such a diversified field that is composed of various elements of expertise. ie: Graphic design, software engineering, audio composition and editing, etc.
Also, you should have one of those specialties if you want to take part. Anything more than that, and you're looking at the business aspect of it instead of the game making itself.

Which is why I won't touch the industry with a 10 foot pole.
Too much of it is composed of the business aspect rather than the developmental aspects and risk taking behaviors necessary to really make it stand in a light other than just making money on time to appeal to shareholders that don't understand or care about such trivial matters which mean the world to us that enjoy partaking in it to begin with.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-24 17:31:45
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Artemicion said: »
I've always held a better understanding and knack for hardware more so than software. Programming, making code and making adjustments therein is something I could do with the right education and courses, but frankly isn't something I would really want to put myself into as far as serious jobs or careers go.

Ideally, I rather work directly with hardware, bloody up my fingers a bit and keep them working/put together.

know anything of electronics?

Not much, just very generalized circuit board and sautering stuff that was done on old parts in my garage years ago. Would need to go to school to even pick up the right direction that such things are involved in.

know more than I did when I started my courses.

if you can program and have a decent understanding of hardware, look into pic programming, kits are cheap and the chips are cheaper and some of the software ide is free.

I mean school can teach you, but if you have the drive you can learn a bit yourself.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-24 17:33:05
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Its cause I started with Java >:
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-24 17:33:08
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Artemicion said: »
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Artemicion said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
If you want to write software, portfolio/github/webdev is the way to go.

If you want to design software and interface between levels of programming and management and ***, portfolio/a damn good senior design project with the best documentation on the market.

If you want to build hardware, release an open source driver or at least contribute to a few, stuff like that.

If you want to build videogames and ***like that, get a math minor and prepare for heartbreak.

If you want to do network security, take lots of crypto and discrete courses.

Not that I wanted to do it in the first place, but reading that was rather disconcerting. Also I figured there would need to be a little more than a math major to take part in such a diversified field that is composed of various elements of expertise. ie: Graphic design, software engineering, audio composition and editing, etc.
Also, you should have one of those specialties if you want to take part. Anything more than that, and you're looking at the business aspect of it instead of the game making itself.

Which is why I won't touch the industry with a 10 foot pole.
Too much of it is composed of the business aspect rather than the developmental aspects and risk taking behaviors necessary to really make it stand in a light other than just making money on time to appeal to shareholders that don't understand or care about such trivial matters which mean the world to us that enjoy partaking in it to begin with.

which is why many game companies are pissing off loyal "gamers" because the games are lackluster at best (for the most part)...
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2012-01-24 17:34:05
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have you tried using mint chocolate chip ice cream? i think that would improve the code.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-01-24 17:34:15
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If I got into the video game industry, I would most likely want to do it from a community relations aspect.

(inb4yeahrightbadmod,etc)
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By Artemicion 2012-01-24 17:34:45
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It's a broad mixture of being unaware of my own ambitions and carefully treading on uneven ground as far as the general direction of industry as well as their required level of qualifications.
I'm sure I can convince myself into getting into programming and getting into things like webdev and whatnot but ultimately I'm unsure of where to start or what would be ideal. But it's unanimous and common knowledge that there will be a great deal of math involved, so that's probably the best place to start.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-24 17:34:52
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Ragnarok.Hevans said: »
have you tried using mint chocolate chip ice cream? i think that would improve the code.

cherry garcia onry
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2012-01-24 17:35:40
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or we can all fantasize about having a mojang success story :<
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By Artemicion 2012-01-24 17:36:16
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Bahamut.Krizz said: »
If I got into the video game industry, I would most likely want to do it from a community relations aspect.

(inb4yeahrightbadmod,etc)

That's bloody brilliant and it would make me proud to see someone getting involved and making a mutual relationship between those that purchase/enjoy the games and those that market and hire to create them.
Too often do I see utter shite being produced and having it marketed in a clever manner that would have people chowing down on crap and actually believing it's chocolate pudding.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-24 17:37:02
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Artemicion said: »
It's a broad mixture of being unaware of my own ambitions and carefully treading on uneven ground as far as the general direction of industry as well as their required level of qualifications.
I'm sure I can convince myself into getting into programming and getting into things like webdev and whatnot but ultimately I'm unsure of where to start or what would be ideal. But it's unanimous and common knowledge that there will be a great deal of math involved, so that's probably the best place to start.

that's why I enjoy this degree of study, even if I don't end up working on electronics design or programming I could always end up (for backup) in some general electronics field...
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-01-24 17:37:57
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Bahamut.Krizz said: »
If I got into the video game industry, I would most likely want to do it from a community relations aspect.

(inb4yeahrightbadmod,etc)

In recent news, Xbox live has been banned, all of it. Users worldwide received one single word in a message before services were banned moments later simply saying "Enough".
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