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By Bismarck.Misao 2012-01-24 17:08:25
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
My ads changed from mmo online to buying tv channels hmmm

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new phone after 2 years yay
I need to get a new one asap too, blackberry tour is crying. what did you go with?
galaxy nexus on verizon
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By Odin.Daemun 2012-01-24 17:08:53
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
I used to have this thing also where I refuse to use any Microsoft product, except Windows. Back in the day I would use C++ Builder, or Corel Word Perfect. Sometimes it got on my professor's nerves.

I did use MASM (Microsoft's Assembler) for my assembly language class though.

I wouldn't object now to use Microsoft Visual Studio, for free of course. If I have to pay, then other brands.
Unless you are working with specific software with very localized integration needs, more often than not the Microsoft software is your best go. It just integrates with any and everything else you may manipulate data with so well, it's not really worth the hassle converting things 2-3 times just to open them in something else.

(I HATE YOU SQL)
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-24 17:09:46
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Artemicion said: »
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/backreading

A+ is one of the stupidest certs out there. Don't waste your time. Get Network+ or Security+.

From my understanding, A+ is really generalized and only reflects general knowledge and competence with computer hardware. Obviously other certificates such as the ones you mentioned will open up more doors and get you in than A+ will ever go, but it's still a reasonable thing to aim for when starting out.
A+ is so you can a job at Best Buy or Staples to fix computers basically.
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By Odin.Daemun 2012-01-24 17:10:15
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Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
I'm getting a 2 year CS degree for right now, hoping that with that and 5 years IT experience from the Navy I can land a decent job while I work on a better degree on the side. Worst case I know through the VA I can snag military contract jobs overseas, though that means the Yokos have to go in stoarge XD
Most DoD IT jobs will require you to be 8570 compliant. This at a minimum means Security+ and an operating system cert. (I have Windows 7, Configuration)
We had to do Windows 7. Was HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, but at least I learned where everything moved to from XP. (Hated that simple fixes took 10min of rummaging in 7 vs 30s in XP)
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-24 17:10:29
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I still have vouchers to take my A+ Certification if I wanted...

I've thought about it in recent years just to do it and b/c it's free...but....naaaaaaah

I just went to school in search of a new major! \O/

got that when I was 17...

hasn't done me a lick of good...
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-01-24 17:10:39
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Artemicion said: »
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
/backreading

A+ is one of the stupidest certs out there. Don't waste your time. Get Network+ or Security+.

From my understanding, A+ is really generalized and only reflects general knowledge and competence with computer hardware. Obviously other certificates such as the ones you mentioned will open up more doors and get you in than A+ will ever go, but it's still a reasonable thing to aim for when starting out.
A+ is an outdated and basically obsolete cert, imo. I was going to take it years ago, looked at the material, and didn't look back at it. It was based around outdated hardware that you'd only find in the prehistoric bank networks that never get upgraded because they're too important for downtime.

It also means basically nothing for a real job. If you get hired with A+, you'd probably get hired without. If a job is asking for A+ certification, I personally wouldn't take it seriously.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-24 17:11:14
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Artemicion said: »
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
/backreading

A+ is one of the stupidest certs out there. Don't waste your time. Get Network+ or Security+.

From my understanding, A+ is really generalized and only reflects general knowledge and competence with computer hardware. Obviously other certificates such as the ones you mentioned will open up more doors and get you in than A+ will ever go, but it's still a reasonable thing to aim for when starting out.
A+ is so you can a job at Best Buy or Staples to fix computers basically.

overqualifies you really...
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By Odin.Daemun 2012-01-24 17:11:26
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
What if I were to say I'll just get my CS degree? >:

Don't get an online CS degree, whatever you do. ***is laughable and useless.

Go to a local/city/state school parttime, take 5-8 years if you must, but don't piss the money on some *** like University of Phoenix.
My wife has thrown this at me a few times for her education. I've squelched it every time. Glad to know someone else understands that they don't carry the weight of a bricks and mortar school in the business world.
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By Artemicion 2012-01-24 17:11:46
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Artemicion said: »
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
/backreading

A+ is one of the stupidest certs out there. Don't waste your time. Get Network+ or Security+.

From my understanding, A+ is really generalized and only reflects general knowledge and competence with computer hardware. Obviously other certificates such as the ones you mentioned will open up more doors and get you in than A+ will ever go, but it's still a reasonable thing to aim for when starting out.
A+ is so you can a job at Best Buy or Staples to fix computers basically.

Bottom of the food chain in essence it seems.
But certainly a reasonable stepping stone to start with.
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By slipispsycho 2012-01-24 17:12:10
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I'll be getting a new phone soon too..

http://www.boostmobilestore.com/bpdirect/boost/PhoneList.do?action=view&id=transformultra

That's what I'll be getting.. Qwerty keyboard and Android Market are musts for me, so my options are pretty much limited.. But my wife has it and I like it.

I'll never again touch another Blackberry...
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By Asura.Vyre 2012-01-24 17:12:54
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Did I say serious? I meant hilarious. If I turn in a decent picture of an Eskimo tomorrow morning with my classified homework, then I don't have to do part of the assignment tonight <_> but I cannot draw. Also I never saw this coming in a million billion years. My god, I'm going to miss my BE instructor.
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-01-24 17:12:57
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Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
I'm getting a 2 year CS degree for right now, hoping that with that and 5 years IT experience from the Navy I can land a decent job while I work on a better degree on the side. Worst case I know through the VA I can snag military contract jobs overseas, though that means the Yokos have to go in stoarge XD
Most DoD IT jobs will require you to be 8570 compliant. This at a minimum means Security+ and an operating system cert. (I have Windows 7, Configuration)

Hmmm, good to know. All I know is that everytime (and I mean EVERYTIME) I go to meet with my unemployment officer he pushes these jobs on me. It is always some crappy sounding job in the middle east doing stuff for either the marines or the army. Comsec manager jobs mostly, but a few other ones pop up sometimes too.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-24 17:13:05
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Im getting it at a college walking distance from my house

Its a 4 year degree >:
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By Artemicion 2012-01-24 17:13:21
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Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Artemicion said: »
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
/backreading

A+ is one of the stupidest certs out there. Don't waste your time. Get Network+ or Security+.

From my understanding, A+ is really generalized and only reflects general knowledge and competence with computer hardware. Obviously other certificates such as the ones you mentioned will open up more doors and get you in than A+ will ever go, but it's still a reasonable thing to aim for when starting out.
A+ is an outdated and basically obsolete cert, imo. I was going to take it years ago, looked at the material, and didn't look back at it. It was based around outdated hardware that you'd only find in the prehistoric bank networks that never get upgraded because they're too important for downtime.

It also means basically nothing for a real job. If you get hired with A+, you'd probably get hired without. If a job is asking for A+ certification, I personally wouldn't take it seriously.

I'm unfamiliar with what certificates computer associated careers look for these days. So what would be the next step to take? Security and Networking as you mentioned?
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By Odin.Daemun 2012-01-24 17:13:21
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I'll be getting a new phone soon too..

http://www.boostmobilestore.com/bpdirect/boost/PhoneList.do?action=view&id=transformultra

That's what I'll be getting.. Qwerty keyboard and Android Market are musts for me, so my options are pretty much limited.. But my wife has it and I like it.

I'll never again touch another Blackberry...
Too bad there is 0 boost signal here. Same for T-Mobile, Verizon. Yeah, this market is ATT dominated.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-24 17:14:20
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Psycho Slip said: »
I'll be getting a new phone soon too..

http://www.boostmobilestore.com/bpdirect/boost/PhoneList.do?action=view&id=transformultra

That's what I'll be getting.. Qwerty keyboard and Android Market are musts for me, so my options are pretty much limited.. But my wife has it and I like it.

I'll never again touch another Blackberry...

I have a crossover, it has it's flaws but it's an android with a qwerty

edit: att
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By slipispsycho 2012-01-24 17:14:51
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Odin.Daemun said: »
Psycho Slip said: »
I'll be getting a new phone soon too..

http://www.boostmobilestore.com/bpdirect/boost/PhoneList.do?action=view&id=transformultra

That's what I'll be getting.. Qwerty keyboard and Android Market are musts for me, so my options are pretty much limited.. But my wife has it and I like it.

I'll never again touch another Blackberry...
Too bad there is 0 boost signal here. Same for T-Mobile, Verizon. Yeah, this market is ATT dominated.
Lol I feel bad for you.

I have to go through Boost though, it's the only thing we can afford.. Well we can afford Cricket which is even cheaper but I'd rather rely on a landline than deal with Cricket.. Worst damn service and phones ever.
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By Artemicion 2012-01-24 17:15:16
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I wanna get a new phone too, but have no idea what would be an ideal step up from my old 3G My Touch Slide.

QWERTY keyboard is mandatory for me.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-01-24 17:15:45
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Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
I'm getting a 2 year CS degree for right now, hoping that with that and 5 years IT experience from the Navy I can land a decent job while I work on a better degree on the side. Worst case I know through the VA I can snag military contract jobs overseas, though that means the Yokos have to go in stoarge XD
Most DoD IT jobs will require you to be 8570 compliant. This at a minimum means Security+ and an operating system cert. (I have Windows 7, Configuration)

Hmmm, good to know. All I know is that everytime (and I mean EVERYTIME) I go to meet with my unemployment officer he pushes these jobs on me. It is always some crappy sounding job in the middle east doing stuff for either the marines or the army. Comsec manager jobs mostly, but a few other ones pop up sometimes too.
A lot of them will give you a 'grace period' while on the job to earn the certs. Comsec would most definitely require 8570 (I did com as a Marine.). From what I've heard, they are starting to do away with the grace period. I'm sure it also depends how desperate they are.

Overseas is good money, but I won't do it. Not only am I now a single parent, but risking my life isn't worth the extra money. (I don't care how 'safe' the area is supposed to be. Only place I would willingly work at overseas is South Korea, and that's pushing it.)
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By Odin.Daemun 2012-01-24 17:16:01
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Psycho Slip said: »
Odin.Daemun said: »
Psycho Slip said: »
I'll be getting a new phone soon too..

http://www.boostmobilestore.com/bpdirect/boost/PhoneList.do?action=view&id=transformultra

That's what I'll be getting.. Qwerty keyboard and Android Market are musts for me, so my options are pretty much limited.. But my wife has it and I like it.

I'll never again touch another Blackberry...
Too bad there is 0 boost signal here. Same for T-Mobile, Verizon. Yeah, this market is ATT dominated.
Lol I feel bad for you.
I also have the best internet money can buy for the area up to 6m down, up to 1m up. Ususually 5.5 down and 250k up ><.
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By Fenrir.Schutz 2012-01-24 17:16:19
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Psycho Slip said: »
I'll be getting a new phone soon too..

http://www.boostmobilestore.com/bpdirect/boost/PhoneList.do?action=view&id=transformultra

That's what I'll be getting.. Qwerty keyboard and Android Market are musts for me, so my options are pretty much limited.. But my wife has it and I like it.

I'll never again touch another Blackberry...

Does it actually transform? I'd pay good money for that.

Yomisha and Anye, too, I bet.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-24 17:17:08
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Artemicion said: »
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Artemicion said: »
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
/backreading

A+ is one of the stupidest certs out there. Don't waste your time. Get Network+ or Security+.

From my understanding, A+ is really generalized and only reflects general knowledge and competence with computer hardware. Obviously other certificates such as the ones you mentioned will open up more doors and get you in than A+ will ever go, but it's still a reasonable thing to aim for when starting out.
A+ is an outdated and basically obsolete cert, imo. I was going to take it years ago, looked at the material, and didn't look back at it. It was based around outdated hardware that you'd only find in the prehistoric bank networks that never get upgraded because they're too important for downtime.

It also means basically nothing for a real job. If you get hired with A+, you'd probably get hired without. If a job is asking for A+ certification, I personally wouldn't take it seriously.

I'm unfamiliar with what certificates computer associated careers look for these days. So what would be the next step to take? Security and Networking as you mentioned?

what do you want to do?

fix/IT etc?

or just be working on a computer?

imo if you can grasp the concepts programming is the route, and building a portfolio would be better than anything.

but that's what I've gathered from observing people in the field.
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By slipispsycho 2012-01-24 17:17:34
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Fenrir.Schutz said: »
Psycho Slip said: »
I'll be getting a new phone soon too..

http://www.boostmobilestore.com/bpdirect/boost/PhoneList.do?action=view&id=transformultra

That's what I'll be getting.. Qwerty keyboard and Android Market are musts for me, so my options are pretty much limited.. But my wife has it and I like it.

I'll never again touch another Blackberry...

Does it actually transform? I'd pay good money for that.

Yomisha and Anye, too, I bet.
Well it slides out and transforms from a phone into... A small laptop?
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By Odin.Daemun 2012-01-24 17:17:49
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Psycho Slip said: »
Odin.Daemun said: »
Psycho Slip said: »
I'll be getting a new phone soon too..

http://www.boostmobilestore.com/bpdirect/boost/PhoneList.do?action=view&id=transformultra

That's what I'll be getting.. Qwerty keyboard and Android Market are musts for me, so my options are pretty much limited.. But my wife has it and I like it.

I'll never again touch another Blackberry...
Too bad there is 0 boost signal here. Same for T-Mobile, Verizon. Yeah, this market is ATT dominated.
Lol I feel bad for you.

I have to go through Boost though, it's the only thing we can afford.. Well we can afford Cricket which is even cheaper but I'd rather rely on a landline than deal with Cricket.. Worst damn service and phones ever.

We pay through the nose for our phones. That's the reason we dropped our TV service. We used one, not so much the other. If we had viable options I would try to swap, but there's just nothing that offers any type of service along the way to my parents' or my wife's parents house.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-01-24 17:19:00
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Artemicion said: »
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Artemicion said: »
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
/backreading

A+ is one of the stupidest certs out there. Don't waste your time. Get Network+ or Security+.

From my understanding, A+ is really generalized and only reflects general knowledge and competence with computer hardware. Obviously other certificates such as the ones you mentioned will open up more doors and get you in than A+ will ever go, but it's still a reasonable thing to aim for when starting out.
A+ is an outdated and basically obsolete cert, imo. I was going to take it years ago, looked at the material, and didn't look back at it. It was based around outdated hardware that you'd only find in the prehistoric bank networks that never get upgraded because they're too important for downtime.

It also means basically nothing for a real job. If you get hired with A+, you'd probably get hired without. If a job is asking for A+ certification, I personally wouldn't take it seriously.

I'm unfamiliar with what certificates computer associated careers look for these days. So what would be the next step to take? Security and Networking as you mentioned?
Security+ and Operating system cert
Network+
Any other certs that are directly related to the field you are in.

For the more advanced you have CISSP, CCNA, etc.

Those on the management side will want to look at ITIL.
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If you want to write software, portfolio/github/webdev is the way to go.

If you want to design software and interface between levels of programming and management and ***, portfolio/a damn good senior design project with the best documentation on the market.

If you want to build hardware, release an open source driver or at least contribute to a few, stuff like that.

If you want to build videogames and ***like that, get a math minor and prepare for heartbreak.

If you want to do network security, take lots of crypto and discrete courses.
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By Artemicion 2012-01-24 17:21:36
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I've always held a better understanding and knack for hardware more so than software. Programming, making code and making adjustments therein is something I could do with the right education and courses, but frankly isn't something I would really want to put myself into as far as serious jobs or careers go.

Ideally, I rather work directly with hardware, bloody up my fingers a bit and keep them working/put together.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-24 17:21:45
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I don't exactly know what I want yet :| i just figured a CS degree would have more options than getting a degree in like history or english (no offense to people with those majors)
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-01-24 17:22:45
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Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
I don't exactly know what I want yet :| i just figured a CS degree would have more options than getting a degree in like history or english (no offense to people with those majors)

You're absolutely right.

CS isn't about programming, btw. It's about problem solving.

Just know that going in.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-24 17:23:04
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
I don't exactly know what I want yet :| i just figured a CS degree would have more options than getting a degree in like history or english (no offense to people with those majors)

You're absolutely right.

CS isn't about programming, btw. It's about problem solving.

Just know that going in.

who said i like programming <_<
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