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By Asura.Vyre 2025-08-29 13:13:56
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Afania forgetting that going to the dark side gonna mangle her eyes into being chimpanzee eyes with non-functioning eyelids.

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By Pantafernando 2025-08-29 13:21:28
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Alfania went to the dark side of smell, if any
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By Pantafernando 2025-08-29 13:22:00
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Or brown side
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By Afania 2025-08-29 13:35:51
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Asura.Vyre said: »
Afania forgetting that going to the dark side gonna mangle her eyes into being chimpanzee eyes with non-functioning eyelids.

smh

Hey look, this guy looks like an average grandpa!



non-functioning eyelids? What non-functioning eyelids? :D
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-29 13:37:46
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Afania said: »
My AI doesn't. ;)
The fact you have to state "my" AI means that AI is nothing more than a glorified yes-man/woman that will input the response you want to see.
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By Afania 2025-08-29 13:40:06
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
My AI doesn't. ;)
The fact you have to state "my" AI means that AI is nothing more than a glorified yes-man/woman that will input the response you want to see.

Yes, you need certain level of media literacy skill to avoid the yes man issues from AI. That's why I suggested you not to use it.

In the case of my AI though, it did make many strong arguments on Light being evil despite I try to lure it to a different path. That's why in the end I can slightly agree that Light's narcissist personality can count as evil.

But the lawful argument from AI quickly crumbled the moment I asked AI exactly what lawful means. So lawful argument is noticably weaker.

If you don't have media literacy skill then you not get much from AI. I don't think it's a pure yes man like you said.
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2025-08-29 13:45:27
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Afania said: »
Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
Source: Afania's best friend

Looks like AI betrayed Afania :D

My AI doesn't. ;)

Before I respond to your post I had a heated debate with AI what alignment Light belongs to. After both sides presented examples of his actions AI agreed that Light isn't lawful evil.

The reasons that you read in my response post are reasons agreed by my AI too ;)

I mean, tons of people made Alignment grids for Death Note character and they often put Light in lawful evil camp. But Panta's example already showed that many people don't fully understand DnD framework at it's core due to the wording of the alignment.

So of course AI will favor lawful evil camp as quick answer because lawful evil has higher weight.

But if you explore the meaning of those alignments with AI further you may get a different answer.

I can probably slightly agree that Light is evil even though my inner "comrade radar" didn't ring when I read his story, but it did ring when I read Cersei or Scar's story.

But I legitimately don't see him as lawful so whoever consider him lawful online doesn't understand alignment system as well. :D
AI is a yes-man. You guided it towards the result you wanted. I didnt /shrug

You conveniently ignored the arguments provided in my post for Light's aligntment. It seems you have a different understanding of what "lawful" means.

I did get the opinion of an auhtor friend who's been playing DnD for as long as I remember, and he didn't bat an eye describing Light as lawful evil. And we had a nice discussion about the alignment system (a topic I was never into, but I engaged in according to your definitions, to have common ground and make this fruitful)

But in any case, what matters is the "evil" alignment. If you finally begun to see that this is a reasonable position, then my job here is done. :)
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By Afania 2025-08-29 13:53:24
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Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
AI is a yes-man. You guided it towards the result you wanted. I didnt /shrug


See the post above, it's WAY less of a yes man than you give credit for IMO.

Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
I did get the opinion of an auhtor friend who's been playing DnD for as long as I remember, and he didn't bat an eye describing Light as lawful evil. And we had a nice discussion about the alignment system (a topic I was never into, but I engaged in according to your definitions, to have common ground and make this fruitful)


Did you also remind him that Light also changed his personal code multiple times in the story? Like how it went from "killing criminals is okay" to "killing or hurting non-criminal that threatened me is okay".

Some people could forget that ....but that's the key thing that doesn't belong to lawful.
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By Dodik 2025-08-29 14:06:12
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The whole point of Light-kun's story is that anyone, even someone with the best intentions in the world, will be corrupted by absolute power.

See when Light purposefully lost his memories of ever owning the death note. He reverted back to the law abiding high school kid that would not dream of killing someone.

Then when he gets his memories back first thing he does is kill L, a non criminal.

He became corrupted by the death note's power. As anyone would.
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By Pantafernando 2025-08-29 14:18:08
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I wouldnt
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By Pantafernando 2025-08-29 14:27:11
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And if you disagree...

Please give me your name

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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-29 14:29:00
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My name is
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2025-08-29 14:34:37
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Pantafernando said: »
I wouldnt
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By Bismarck.Josiahflaming 2025-08-29 14:34:42
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Dodik said: »
What makes a sin a sin.

Who judges what constitutes a sin or not.
each respective civilization holds this power, to judge and remove parts of their society they deem as "evil"

for example a tribe of apes in a jungle might exile one they deem as evil
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2025-08-29 14:38:08
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Afania said: »
that's the key thing that doesn't belong to lawful.
That's fair, and I would say that I view him as predominantly lawful evil till he started going predominantyl chaotic later on
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By Afania 2025-08-29 14:38:10
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Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
Pantafernando said: »
I wouldnt


Oh hey, it's La Noire! I played this game recently.

But the "doubt" option is changed to "bad cop" in the remastered version.

Bad cop!
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-08-29 14:49:39
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Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »
Dodik said: »
What makes a sin a sin.

Who judges what constitutes a sin or not.
each respective civilization holds this power, to judge and remove parts of their society they deem as "evil"

for example a tribe of apes in a jungle might exile one they deem as evil
But the question was sin not evil.

Religions define what sins are. Civilizations define what is unlawful. Evil is subjective.
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By Bismarck.Josiahflaming 2025-08-29 14:52:30
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »
Dodik said: »
What makes a sin a sin.

Who judges what constitutes a sin or not.
each respective civilization holds this power, to judge and remove parts of their society they deem as "evil"

for example a tribe of apes in a jungle might exile one they deem as evil
But the question was sin not evil.

Religions define what sins are. Civilizations define what is unlawful. Evil is subjective.
Religions define what sin is for you. But plenty of species out there see behaviors given as the same connotations you might view as "sinful" and in response remove members of their tribes for it without ever organizing into a religion etc.
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By mhomho 2025-08-29 14:56:08
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
The same dude

He still doesn't get it. That's what I mean by arguing with Nynja is frivalous. To people like Nynja, words don't mean anything so they'll pick and choose when a word's meaning is applicable.

I'll give another example of psychopathy. If someone doesn't like being called something. If you continue to call them the thing they don't like, then your the ***. It's the simple. It's disresectful. It's like why did we have Malcom X and the black panthers movement? White people couldn't be respectful. White people refused to stop calling them a slur so eventually they became violent.

Have you ever read the Jean Paul Sartre quote?

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

That's people like Nynja in a nutshell. It's the crux of why you can't argue with them and shouldn't bother to even have a discussion with them. You're wasting your breath. They'll indulge you. They'll entertain you with a conversation so long as you never really push back on anything they have to say or any of their ideology because they aren't the ones seeking to convince their opposition in earnest. They're the ones that use fear, intimidation, and force to push through the agenda regardless of what others may think or feel. That's why they're psychoic. When they're parsing for support they'll use flowery language and dog whistles. They'll outright lie to you. They'll misrepesent their opposition. They'll project their faults onto the opposition. Like Oh I'm not in the files it was those other guys!

I don't know if it speaks more to the failings of the education system or if it's symptomatic of our gradual descent into idiocracy. It's like when the kids use AI to do their homework. They think they understand what psychopathy is because they read it off google. Like what would bring is to water crops with Brondo?

I can type out a wall of text in minutes and the backroom joke is that you guys think it's AI.
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By mhomho 2025-08-29 15:17:21
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Losing long term relationships for short term gains is a potential consequence of psychopathic behavior, sure. But, to say it's part of the definition is silly. Behaving without empathy only costs you relationships if you don't consider the personal impact of losing those relationships. As a result, high-functioning psychopaths are not necessarily losing relationships as a consequence of their behavior. They're maintaining them for personal interest rather than empathy.

Also, your holier-than-thou attitude about relatively basic concepts is giving off a whole lot of narcissist vibes.

How do you measure empathy?
Do we do a blood test or do we observe behavioral patterns? If someone was a psychopath capable of maintaining relationships, then how do you know they're unempathetic? It only comes across as holier than thou because it made you feel bad enough to try to construct a reubuttle.

I never said I was capable of indulging in the dark triad. That's part of the point.

Everyone lies (machiavellianism) (speak no evil)
Everyone's selfish (narcissistic) (here no evil)
Everyone's blind (psychopathic) (see no evil)

Some people are integrous enough that they can acknowledge their own unconscious biases and work on it. Other people lack that same level of integrity of self-accountability. That's when the cross the line. You guys were making jedi memes. Neither the sith nor the jedi were correct. The way of the bendu, the way of the gray, is the true path. You cannot have too much light. Order stifles freedom. The light scorches the earth. You cannot have too much dark. For without light, life cannot grow.
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2025-08-29 15:23:29
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Afania said: »
Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
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I wouldnt


Oh hey, it's La Noire! I played this game recently.

But the "doubt" option is changed to "bad cop" in the remastered version.

Bad cop!
I never finished it. Twice :/
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By Afania 2025-08-29 15:31:37
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Dodik said: »
The whole point of Light-kun's story is that anyone, even someone with the best intentions in the world, will be corrupted by absolute power.

See when Light purposefully lost his memories of ever owning the death note. He reverted back to the law abiding high school kid that would not dream of killing someone.

Then when he gets his memories back first thing he does is kill L, a non criminal.

He became corrupted by the death note's power. As anyone would.


This is why I find it hard to accept Light into my evil army....

Why do we need a justice ideology as justification for power? Why can't we just say "yeah, I like power because I like good stuff".

Light is a character that needs justification to act.

If I have death note, I wouldn't even use it to kill criminals, that's dumb move in my eyes. I'd use it to blackmail people and get power and money. No justification needed except "because I want that". THIS is the true philosophy of evil.

Use death note for justice, even if it is a twisted version of justice? Ridiculous!


Light Yagami should be OUT! He doesn't deserve a spot in evil alignment no matter what other people said! ;<
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By Pantafernando 2025-08-29 15:33:12
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Afania said: »
My AI doesn't. ;)

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By Afania 2025-08-29 15:35:28
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Pantafernando said: »
Afania said: »
My AI doesn't. ;)



I am evil, so I am allowed to use AI however I want ;)
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By Dodik 2025-08-29 15:38:00
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I agree. Light is a schoolkid with a God complex. He was never evil to begin with, nor was he "evil" later. Just corrupted by power.
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By Afania 2025-08-29 15:41:02
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Dodik said: »
I agree. Light is a schoolkid with a God complex. He was never evil to begin with, nor was he "evil" later. Just corrupted by power.


Finally, someone understand the philosophy of evil ;)

I worked so hard to preach it, it feels nice to get some results finally ;)
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-08-29 15:43:52
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Afania said: »
I am evil, so I am allowed to use AI however I want ;)

I use AI for good and titties.... and to make the tittie bounce...
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By Dodik 2025-08-29 15:45:04
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Afania you didn't teach me ***. I was always evil. Just hide it until it's time to strike ;).
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By mhomho 2025-08-29 15:47:30
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-29 15:50:12
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Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
Afania said: »
I am evil, so I am allowed to use AI however I want ;)

I use AI for good and titties.... and to make the tittie bounce...
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