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 Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-28 23:57:46
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are the arguments in bad faith in the thread with us rn?
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By mhomho 2025-08-29 00:20:32
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How Nynja argues:
Tha didn't happen
and if it did
It wasn't that bad
and if it was
That's not a big deal
and if it is
It's not my fault
and if it was
Then you deserved it
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By Pantafernando 2025-08-29 01:28:22
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He also likes to throw some questionable meme somewhere in the algorithm
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-29 01:33:52
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-08-29 05:26:34
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Losing long term relationships for short term gains is a potential consequence of psychopathic behavior, sure. But, to say it's part of the definition is silly. Behaving without empathy only costs you relationships if you don't consider the personal impact of losing those relationships. As a result, high-functioning psychopaths are not necessarily losing relationships as a consequence of their behavior. They're maintaining them for personal interest rather than empathy.

Also, your holier-than-thou attitude about relatively basic concepts is giving off a whole lot of narcissist vibes.
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2025-08-29 06:04:05
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Asura.Vyre said: »
Afania said: »
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Need to offer better incentives

Ayn Rand

I used to find her philosophy to be real interesting, and somewhat compelling.

Then I found out she cuckolded her husband for like 2 decades, and he wouldn't/couldn't do anything about it. Literally with a protege of hers that she was grooming.

So philosophy of the evil might not be too far off.
That's the thing with philosophers. Aside from the fact that they don't necessarily exemplify their ideals (they should try to if they want their ideas to have better impact, but realistically we shouldn't expect them to nor allow that to be the sole judge of their philosophy's worth), one can benefit from their ideas & the discussions surrounding them without having to fully embrace them. Nobody is completely right all the time but nobody is also completely wrong all the time (we have a saying: "wisdom is the lost property of the believer")
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2025-08-29 06:08:38
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Pantafernando said: »
Alfania istrying to hard to be "evil".

But it is just being cringe in the end...
How Afania sees herself after her philosophy lesson:

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By Afania 2025-08-29 06:47:26
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Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
How Afania sees herself after her philosophy lesson:


Excuse me????? You totally missed the point of evil philosophy even after the lesson.....

Light Yagami isn't "evil", he did what he did for greater good. At least in the beginning it was like that.

He is Chaotic good, that turned chaotic neutral in the end.

He isn't allowed to join my evil army, he belongs to a different alignment.

The fact that people keep mentioning chaotic good or chaotic neutral character even after the lesson shows our philosophy still has a long way to go in this culture war.

DISAPPOINT!
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By Bahamut.Negan 2025-08-29 06:54:42
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Afania said: »
Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
How Afania sees herself after her philosophy lesson:


Excuse me????? You totally missed the point of evil philosophy even after the lesson.....

Light Yagami isn't "evil", he did what he did for greater good. At least in the beginning it was like that.

He is Chaotic good, that turned chaotic neutral in the end.

He isn't allowed to join my evil army, he belongs to a different alignment.

The fact that people keep mentioning chaotic good or chaotic neutral character even after the lesson shows our philosophy still has a long way to go in this culture war.

DISAPPOINT!
Is Dexter Lawful/Evil or Chaotic/Good?
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By Pantafernando 2025-08-29 06:56:13
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Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
Pantafernando said: »
Alfania istrying to hard to be "evil".

But it is just being cringe in the end...
How Afania sees herself after her philosophy lesson:


I think I see more like this:
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By Afania 2025-08-29 06:56:14
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Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
What Panta sees


A lot of real evil aligned people or characters actually looks like that, lol. Joker is one of them for example. They just have fun with what they do.

Many people in the evil alignment doesn't actually look nor act like Light Yagami.
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By Afania 2025-08-29 06:58:33
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Bahamut.Negan said: »
Is Dexter Lawful/Evil or Chaotic/Good?


Not sure who that is! Sorry ;(
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By Pantafernando 2025-08-29 07:00:17
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Afania said: »
Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
How Afania sees herself after her philosophy lesson:


Excuse me????? You totally missed the point of evil philosophy even after the lesson.....

Light Yagami isn't "evil", he did what he did for greater good. At least in the beginning it was like that.

He is Chaotic good, that turned chaotic neutral in the end.

He isn't allowed to join my evil army, he belongs to a different alignment.

The fact that people keep mentioning chaotic good or chaotic neutral character even after the lesson shows our philosophy still has a long way to go in this culture war.

DISAPPOINT!

Light Yagami is definitivelly not a “good” perdon.

The scale of “good” and “evil” (inreference to society standards) is based how much of the deadly sins affects your decision.

Light Yagami is completely narcissistic. That is a deadly sin. Considering how far he can go to sate this sin, makes him a bad parson.

Like you, you are heavily arrogant. That is also a deadly sin, thus why you dont belong to the light side
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By Bahamut.Negan 2025-08-29 07:00:54
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Afania said: »
Bahamut.Negan said: »
Is Dexter Lawful/Evil or Chaotic/Good?


Not sure who that is! Sorry ;(
Ok, what about Raistlin?
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By Pantafernando 2025-08-29 07:01:24
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Like Nynja is deeply affected by anger, Eirynil is deeply affected by sloth, Negan Froggs is deeply affected by lust
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By Pantafernando 2025-08-29 07:01:39
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You are all evil!
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2025-08-29 07:03:55
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Afania said: »
You totally missed the point of evil philosophy even after the lesson.....
The point of the picture is the expression & how the character feels, not their DnD aligntment

But if you truly think Light Yagami isn't "evil" (taking his intent into consideration & how he reacted in the ending) then I think you need to revisit Death Note

Afania said: »
A lot of real evil aligned people or characters actually looks like that, lol. Joker is one of them for example.
C'mon. Joker's got a creepy, scary aura.
This guy? Look up the picture and you might understand the hidden joke.
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By Afania 2025-08-29 07:09:14
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Pantafernando said: »
Light Yagami is definitivelly not a “good” perdon.

The scale of “good” and “evil” (inreference to society standards) is based how much of the deadly sins affects your decision.


Then we have a different metrics on what good and evil means then.

My definition of evil is DnD system based, not religion based.

"narcissistic" is a personality trait, it is called cluster B personality trait/disorder in mental health industry. It's not a philosophy nor ideology. It's a trait that gives one individual a set of strength and weakness, that's all

If you are narcissistic but you do things for greater good, then you are not evil, and vice versa.

A lawful good people can possibly be narcissistic too. This kind of people will run around telling people how they are better than the others because they do charity and help the others. So narcissistic and good can co-exist.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2025-08-29 07:11:20
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Afania said: »
Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
How Afania sees herself after her philosophy lesson:


Excuse me????? You totally missed the point of evil philosophy even after the lesson.....

Light Yagami isn't "evil", he did what he did for greater good. At least in the beginning it was like that.

He is Chaotic good, that turned chaotic neutral in the end.

He isn't allowed to join my evil army, he belongs to a different alignment.

The fact that people keep mentioning chaotic good or chaotic neutral character even after the lesson shows our philosophy still has a long way to go in this culture war.

DISAPPOINT!

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By Afania 2025-08-29 07:21:24
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Bahamut.Negan said: »
Ok, what about Raistlin?


I don't know who that is too!

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But if you truly think Light Yagami isn't "evil" (taking his intent into consideration & how he reacted in the ending) then I think you need to revisit Death Note

No he isn't, he is neutral at best. And what he said in the end is more of a narcissist behavior than truly believing in evil philosophy.

I'll give you some examples of real evil characters: Every one knows Joker, who kills for his own entertainment. Light doesn't do that.

Jabba the Hutt or Emperor Palpatine? Those people people want power and they use power for personal gain not greater good nor "Justice" ideology. That's evil.

Evil people doesn't do things because they have "Justice" in mind. They do things because they love power and money or personal pleasure so their actions will aim for that goal, and they'll prioritize themselves over everyone else.

I don't see Light as evil at all. He may be manipulative, he may hurt other people. He may abuse his powers too much in the end. But his actions intent are deeply rooted in a belief that what he is doing is "Justice". Real evil characters doesn't give a damn about Justice. They'll just say "I'm doing this because I want more money/power/fun."

Anyone who valued Justice or greater good doesn't belong to evil alignment.
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By Afania 2025-08-29 07:43:52
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Here is some of the characters that I see as evil, besides previously mentioned Joker/Jabba the Hutt/Emperor Palpatine

Lord Voldemort (Harry Potter)
Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Hannibal Lecter (Silence of the lamb)
Megatron(transformers)
Makima(Chainsaw man)
Johan(Monster)
Scar(Lion King)

You see, those people have power over the others in the story because they enjoy power, then they go get power. They didn't abuse power because of ideology, they abuse power because of personal desire. That's following the philosophy of evil.
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By Afania 2025-08-29 08:05:45
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Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
The point of the picture is the expression & how the character feels,

I think I've found a way more accurate picture to describe how I feel when I see an awesome evil characters do their things, or when I see an good opportunity fulfill my personal desires.



No way in hell that I'll see myself lining up with Light Yagami's feel ever! That dude doesn't belong here!!!! ;<
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