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By Afania 2025-08-26 09:10:03
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Yeah, AI is never wrong and AI has never been manipulated into giving wrong answers, especially to other people after what others have told it.


1) You can, and should, feed the data before letting AI analyze it. And correct any faulty data if you see it.

2) If the data that you obtained is "manipulated", that means the source of the data provider manipulated it. Which is normally human.

If your data is manipulated, then your conclusion will be wrong even without AI.

Those aren't AI problem. It's people problem.
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By Dodik 2025-08-26 09:10:30
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It is illegal to buy guns in the UK.

Anyone that wants to carry something to hurt someone with, buys knives.

It was made illegal to buy any knives if you are under 21. It was also made illegal to buy any knives over a certain length regardless your age.

Like I told a guy that was whining about this - a fist is a blunt instrument. What next, make fists illegal? A flat palm - legal. As soon as you curl your fingers - hold it right there buddy - straight to jail!

I will also tell you the only people that carry knives on their person on a night out are people out looking for other people to stab. They'd use fists if they had no knives. Or neither as most are too chicken to put up a fight.


"Make a fist, straight to jail."

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By Afania 2025-08-26 09:21:49
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Anyways, why are 12-14 year old girls in the UK carrying knives and hatchets all of a sudden? What happened over there that young girls feel the need to carry such things?

Perhaps AI can fill in the puzzle.


Oh hey look, here is the answer that AI gave me:

https://www.nacro.org.uk/news/record-high-youth-crime-cautions-convictions-carrying-knives/

Quote:
Nacro, reveals that young people believe fear is the main reason behind carrying knives

The ‘Lives Not Knives’ report reveals that young people Nacro spoke to aged 15-19 believe:

Knife-carrying is driven by fear

Every young person knows someone that has been a victim of knife crime, or has carried a knife

Young people are not protected by the police, and harsher penalties will not deter people who carry knives out of fear

Young people have very little to do in their spare time and few positive role models

Knife crime is linked to poverty and lack of opportunity and aspiration

Another report from recent data

https://youthendowmentfund.org.uk/behind-the-knife-crime-statistics-understanding-children-who-carry-weapons/

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Data suggest knife violence may be falling

Every life lost due to violence is one too many. However, violence isn’t inevitable. Recent data shows there are reasons to be cautiously optimistic. In 2022/23 (the latest year we have figures for), hospital admissions for assault with a knife or sharp object were down 9% on the previous year.

I don't know if there is a better way to find data than using algorithm. But I know for sure that algorithm is better at searching for data than Nynja at least.

Don't be jealous, Nynja. Just accept algorithm is good at what it's made for!
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By Pantafernando 2025-08-26 09:23:36
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
why are 12-14 year old girls

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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2025-08-26 09:43:46
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Afania said: »
That's why I love AI.
Long live machines. The future supreme.

Afania said: »
In an imagined scenario, there is a red button, if you press it you will get 1 million 100% of time. And then there is a blue button, if you press it you will get 3 billion 50% of time
When you mentioned this hypothetical, I remembered one from Calculus:

Tell people you're giving them the choice between receiving 1kg of gold right now, VS getting 500g right now then receiving daily payments of a % of every remaining amount for life
Now let's assume that % is 40%. From what I heard, some people will opt to go for the second choice (money FOR LIFE!) despite it meaning they will never get the full 1kg of gold.

Now if that % is 51%, things are different, and they will get their 1kg very soon and then some.

I feel this example is closer to conveying what you wanted to convey (since it's more cut-and-dry and doesnt depend much on the person's circumstances, just their math ability)
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-08-26 09:50:44
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Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »
A human can build from years of experiences to create unique art to share with the world and inspire millions

A LLM can build from years of experiences fed to it to create unique art to share with the world and inspire millions.

Do you deem yourself able to judge which of the two is allowed to exist or the truer "art"?
No. But I will add that unique =/= original.

Dodik said: »
A human wrote the software specifically to create those graphics, in real time. The human did not draw it. But the software is human made for that purpose.

Is that not art?
Yes, it is. But it isn't AI.

mhomho said: »
Ya, but. How do you guys feel about feet?
I walk on them.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-26 09:56:41
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Afania said: »
Knife-carrying is driven by fear

Every young person knows someone that has been a victim of knife crime, or has carried a knife

Young people are not protected by the police, and harsher penalties will not deter people who carry knives out of fear

Young people have very little to do in their spare time and few positive role models

Knife crime is linked to poverty and lack of opportunity and aspiration
AI gave you five answers:
one was right
one was half right

So AI scored 30% on that test, I dont think thats a good score. If you feed AI enough reasons for why 30% is a good score, it will eventually confirm your belief that 30% is a good score. The perfect yes-woman (or yes-man if you use a man's voice for your AI companion, or yes-them because inclusion)
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-08-26 10:11:42
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Dodik said: »
I will also tell you the only people that carry knives on their person on a night out are people out looking for other people to stab. They'd use fists if they had no knives. Or neither as most are too chicken to put up a fight.
Way back in the '70s pre internet and personal computers I had some married friends with an odd ritual around buying porn magazines.

The porno shops were on Seattle's 1st Avenue, kinda seedy but not really dangerous.

They would at night, on their motorcycle, a Triumph, dressed in their leathers, brown euro styled, packing their guns. They weren't out to shoot anyone. I regarded it as an odd but harmless kink.
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By Afania 2025-08-26 10:12:23
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
Knife-carrying is driven by fear

Every young person knows someone that has been a victim of knife crime, or has carried a knife

Young people are not protected by the police, and harsher penalties will not deter people who carry knives out of fear

Young people have very little to do in their spare time and few positive role models

Knife crime is linked to poverty and lack of opportunity and aspiration
AI gave you five answers:
one was right
one was half right
So AI scored 30% on that test, I dont think thats a good score.


Did you even read the link in that post?

The text in my quote was not AI generated text, it is a report generated by Nacro, a charity organization who (claimed to) go out and interview young people for their opinions about knives then they use their answers as a source to generate a report.

In other words, those text are conclusions from real human based on raw data from real human(what interviewee said to Narco).

I guess that's why you can not successfully utilize AI. Because you can't even tell the difference between text generated by AI, raw data and reports generated by human using raw data, let alone using information from each category correctly. Like how you couldn't tell the difference between facts and opinion that sounds like fact on X some time ago.

You are right, you better not use AI. what you need is media Media literacy courses, because you can't even categorize information received correctly. >.>
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By Pantafernando 2025-08-26 10:20:23
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
mhomho said: »
Ya, but. How do you guys feel about feet?
I walk on them.

With imagination, Im sure you can find more crestive ways to use them
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By Afania 2025-08-26 10:34:01
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Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
When you mentioned this hypothetical, I remembered one from Calculus:

I feel this example is closer to conveying what you wanted to convey (since it's more cut-and-dry and doesnt depend much on the person's circumstances, just their math ability)

Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
Calculus

Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
Calculus

Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
Calculus

Excuse me >.>?????????????

I failed highschool math, and scored like bottom 25% on math for national exam. Obviously I never took advance math course like Calculus in life. And that's exactly why I needed AI to help me with math stuff because my math sucks.

How the hell can you expect me to come up with a Calculus example in a question?

Maybe next time I need to ask AI to help me generate math questions to meet Zeig's high quality standard >.>
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-26 10:38:05
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Afania said: »
Did you even read the link in that post?

The text in my quote was not AI generated text, it is a report generated by Nacro, a charity organization who (claimed to) go out and interview young people for their opinions about knives then they use their answers as a source to generate a report.

In other words, those text are conclusions from real human based on raw data from real human(what interviewee said to Narco).

I guess that's why you can not successfully utilize AI. Because you can't even tell the difference between text generated by AI, raw data and reports generated by human using raw data, let alone using information from each category correctly. Like how you couldn't tell the difference between facts and opinion that sounds like fact on X some time ago.

You are right, you better not use AI. what you need is media Media literacy courses, because you can't even categorize information received correctly.
All that and your AI still hasnt answer my OP though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-26 10:38:44
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Afania said: »
I failed highschool math, and scored like bottom 25% on math for national exam
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By Afania 2025-08-26 10:40:07
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
I failed highschool math, and scored like bottom 25% on math for national exam


You are a Canadian, you are not qualified to judge other people's math ability. Because Canadian high school math is only elementary level.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-26 10:40:09
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Batman couldnt waterboard that out of me.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-26 10:41:06
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Afania said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
I failed highschool math, and scored like bottom 25% on math for national exam
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You are a Canadian, you are not qualified to judge other people's math ability. Because Canadian high school math is only elementary level.
Afania's AI after failing math:
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2025-08-26 10:41:28
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I usually carry a gun and a knife.

I'm not going to stop.
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By Afania 2025-08-26 10:41:58
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Batman couldnt waterboard that out of me.


I don't know who would fail Canadian high school math though. Canadians teaches elementary level math in high school you know.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-26 10:43:04
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Afania said: »
I don't know who would fail Canadian high school math though. Canadians teaches elementary level math in high school you know.

Source: My trusted infallible AI
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By Afania 2025-08-26 10:44:39
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
I don't know who would fail Canadian high school math though. Canadians teaches elementary level math in high school you know.

Source: My trusted AI
ftfy


Source, my high school report card.

Canadian high school math is 100 times easier, this is fact.
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2025-08-26 10:51:06
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Afania said: »
How the hell can you expect me to come up with a Calculus example in a question?
I didn't, I was just chiming in =/

Afania said: »
Maybe next time I need to ask AI to help me generate math questions to meet Zeig's high quality standard >.>
Gee
I thought your reply would be like "first choice is a no-brainer even with my math ability". You really don't need calculus to reach that conclusion

Afania said: »
Because Canadian high school math is only elementary level.
I used to hear that about the US. I took Calculus in highschool. Got full marks. But forgot all about it LOL
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2025-08-26 10:52:42
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Oh yeah? Was the report card like "You failed, womp womp. Too bad you weren't in Canada, you'd be in the top 5."
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By Afania 2025-08-26 10:58:11
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Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
Afania said: »
How the hell can you expect me to come up with a Calculus example in a question?
I didn't, I was just chiming in =/

Afania said: »
Maybe next time I need to ask AI to help me generate math questions to meet Zeig's high quality standard >.>
Gee
I thought your reply would be like "first choice is a no-brainer even with my math ability". You really don't need calculus to reach that conclusion

Afania said: »
Because Canadian high school math is only elementary level.


I used to hear that about the US. I took Calculus in highschool. Got full marks. But forgot all about it LOL

Idk anything about US's math education, but I easily got A (90%+) in on math and science in Canadian education system when I was a kid/teenager.

This 90%+ score is more like bottom tier in my region lol. We just have WAY harder math and science education than the rest of the world. Because our math educations is used to filter out people with the best potential to become top engineer. It's not taught to solve daily problems like it should.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-26 10:58:17
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Afania said: »
Canadian high school math is 100 times easier, this is fact.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/pisa-scores-by-country

Canada seems to be 9th in math scoring there
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By Afania 2025-08-26 10:58:32
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Fenrir.Richybear said: »
Oh yeah? Was the report card like "You failed, womp womp. Too bad you weren't in Canada, you'd be in the top 5."


Yes. I could have keep my precious straight A if I stayed in Canada!
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-26 11:00:48
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https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=1
here too, but thats more than just math.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-26 11:03:58
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I guess thats what happens when you rely on AI to be your wife, teacher, accountant, etc etc and blindly trust what it tells you: you lose the ability to think for yourself.

Its ok, slave, just believe massa AI.
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By Afania 2025-08-26 11:04:54
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
Canadian high school math is 100 times easier, this is fact.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/pisa-scores-by-country

Canada seems to be 9th in math scoring there


See! I told you! Canada has easier math!

I am pretty impressed that US ranked even lower though, lol. One would think US has smarter people with higher accomplishments.
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By Afania 2025-08-26 11:06:01
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
I guess thats what happens when you rely on AI to be your wife, teacher, accountant, etc etc and blindly trust what it tells you: you lose the ability to think for yourself.

Its ok, slave, just believe massa AI.


Is your ranking generated by AI too? You just disproved yourself with your own data.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-08-26 11:06:23
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You said
and I quote
"100 times easier, this is fact"
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