Random Thoughts.....What Are You Thinking?

You know what's funny? People who don't even play eroge games AND they fight for other people's freedom to play very controversial kind of eroge games only because they feel they are oppressed by feminists, not because they are real eroge game player with their right being taken away.

Lol.

Everyone has different tolerance on different activities.....

Something you find it untolerable may be tolerable for some and vice versa.

Oh I know.

I get grossed out by the weirdest things.

So Visa/MC should get to decide what illegal sexual conduct is permissible to profit off of? This is the slippery slope i originally alluded to.

Youre missing the point completely big dog.

Im arguing in favor for your ability to continue having access to eroge games because of the slippery slope that may present itself.

I have no problem with illegal content not being accessible through these payment systems. However, the fictional content being illegal in one country doesnt mean the rest of the world should be subject to it.

If you don't like it, use JCB and buy games on DLsite with vpn. Then visa/MC will lose power on this matter.

Entity with wealth distribution right always gets power over another. That's how human society works. Plus they also have the moral high ground here. Visa/MC isn't the only entity that uses their wealth distribution power to enforce certain policy.

Either way, if you aren't eroge game players, whatever policy that they enforce don't affect you. I don't understand the reason to fight for it if you aren't affected. Sounds like you are just mad because someone else has power, not because you are personally affected.

No, not really. Those contents are still exist on different website/regions. I just gave you directions on how to buy them in the last post.

Visa/MC isn't the only payment system you know? If you don't like them having power, stop using Visa/MC. I know a lot of Dlsite users actually switched to JCB and cut ties from visa/MC years ago because of these. At least they don't only complain.

What Nynja is saying is that if you allow credit card companies to dictate what games you make, it follows you will allow them or someone like them to dictate what TV you make, or what movies you make, or any content.

It's like saying "Why have laws that enforce freedom of speech if it's not affecting you directly".

Because it affects everyone, everywhere.

They didn't indicate what games you can make in this case though? They only pressured platform(Steam) and the platform agreed with their demand.

Game makers can still make r18 games with any content, and either sell it on their website, different website or use patch to add r18 content (people have been doing that for years)

I don't see it as hindering freedom of speech because platforms have as much freedom to make rules as game makers making their games.

It's like, if a forum decided to ban certain topic is it hindering freedom of speech? The forum get to make the rules, you can say things on different platform or on the street instead.

The platform agreed because its borderline impossible to sell stuff online when visa, MC, and Paypal wont do business with you.


Inb4” But SE uses crysta, steam can make their own currency”

and tell me how does one buy crysta???

I don't play eroge games probably for the same reason I don't watch porn. They are visual, I'm into tactile. (If they ever come out with feeley porn I might be in trouble.)

But they are both free speech issues, or actually the same free speech issue and therefore worth defending.

Visa and mastercard are businesses, not governments. They have no interest in free speech, only profits. If they loose money from this, say because gamers switching to discover or another card, they will change their tune.