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 Fenrir.Niflheim
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2025-07-18 08:22:24
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Dodik said: »
I unironically really liked Watch My Love Story with Yamada-kun at Lv999

of course cuz it was awesome and adorable!


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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-18 08:28:43
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Afania said: »
Also this targets "incest/rape content" not "platform".
Actually it is targeting "platform" because Visa/MC threantened to stop providing a service for the entirety of this "platform" due to a very small fraction of the content on the platform.

I dont care for those kinds of games or anime or what not, but this is fictional content and theres a massive slippery slope when payment processors are telling you what you are and are not allowed to spend you're money on.

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By Dodik 2025-07-18 08:44:13
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You should know that simply watching pictures or videos of fictional characters that appear to be underage is enough to get you in trouble in certain places, like the UK.

Yes, really. This stuff was considered a "loop hole" that was "closed" in law.

Payment processors are more likely worried about being seen to promote illegal activity, which unfortunately includes fictional young-looking characters in certain places.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-18 08:47:09
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You gotta be really *** naive to think there arent any underage girls selling content on OF, or on sites like PH.

Except these are not fictional characters, these are real humans, likely being exploited by a person of greater power.


Furthermore, Steam already has the ability to restrict sales of certain games to certain regions based on local laws.
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By Afania 2025-07-18 08:52:41
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Actually it is targeting "platform" because Visa/MC threantened to stop providing a service for the entirety of this "platform" due to a very small fraction of the content on the platform.


I'm not familiar with OF but now many content on OF that's incest/rape/child abuse theme? If there aren't many then it makes sense that it isn't targeted. Since they are targeting incest/rape/child abuse content, not all of adult content.

Either way, I see it as moral war but not gender war. I don't understand how this was read as "feminists oppressing poor males that just want to read adult stuff" kind of deal. Most adult stuff is still alive on Steam atm.

(In fact, some of the incest r18 games are still alive on Steam atm, lol. So not even all of the incest games got hit.)

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these are real humans,
likely being exploited by a person of greater power.

If you have evidence you can report them to FBI you know?
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By Afania 2025-07-18 08:54:16
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Furthermore, Steam already has the ability to restrict sales of certain games to certain regions based on local laws.


That's what Dlsite did, they restricted certain "tags" from being seen outside of JP region to settle with Visa/Mastercard. And we can probably guess those tags are in the terrible kinks category.

Steam probably doesn't cared about terrible kink r18 games because it's not their main income. So they removed them altogether to avoid getting into moral controversy.

Basically, if you want to play r18 games with controversial kinks like rape/incest/torture, you'll have to go to smaller sites not big ones like steam. Big companies will care about moral issues and social reputation more.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-18 09:23:21
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Afania said: »
I'm not familiar with OF but now many content on OF that's incest/rape/child abuse theme? If there aren't many then it makes sense that it isn't targeted. Since they are targeting incest/rape/child abuse content, not all of adult content.
I'm stopping here

How many games on steam are "incest/rape/child abuse theme"? The list was like 0.01% of their library, so why does it make sense that it was targeted? Go on PH and start typing "step" and see what starts popping up.
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By Afania 2025-07-18 10:04:42
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
I'm not familiar with OF but now many content on OF that's incest/rape/child abuse theme? If there aren't many then it makes sense that it isn't targeted. Since they are targeting incest/rape/child abuse content, not all of adult content.
I'm stopping here

How many games on steam are "incest/rape/child abuse theme"? The list was like 0.01% of their library, so why does it make sense that it was targeted? Go on PH and start typing "step" and see what starts popping up.


I am not sure what's your point here. Are you sympathizing with morally controversial content creators? Or are you pissed off that OF isn't punished?

If you find it unfair then find some (real) incest/rape/child abuse theme content on OF and report them to those moral organizations then they'll go after those content too. Or find some evidence on real life child abuse and report it to FBI. I'm pretty sure someone moral will make a big fuss over those on media and OF will be targeted too.

If nobody report such content then maybe they don't exist OF, or they exist but in a VERY low profile way that it isn't easily found? Isn't it obviously that high profile morally controversial games will become a target but low profile ones will be ignored since they exist in the shadow?

Moral organizations always go after morally controversial content since decades ago, it's not new. Violent games were attacked or banned (google postal game from 1997) for violence. That's no different from incest/rape games got targeted.

Idk why you feel it's some kind of oppression towards men because of this.
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By Afania 2025-07-18 10:06:58
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Go on PH and start typing "step" and see what starts popping up.


What do you mean? "Step" precisely isn't real incest no? That's why the term "step" even exist, to avoid incest moral issues no? Or did I understand this term incorrectly?

Many incest games on steam that I've seen aren't *** with your step sister/mom, they *** with real blood related sister/mom. (Though I've heard some of them secretly changed to "step sister" recently to avoid becoming the target, lol. Those games that changed or used patch for r18+ stuff are still safe on Steam btw.)

If you want to make an argument that things need to be fair, then at least examine the red line content case by case basis equally. Banning incest content isn't the same as banning "step" incest content and it definitely doesn't equal to banning "all" r18 content. There is no need to read it as oppression towards men.
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By Asura.Bertana 2025-07-18 10:26:41
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its friyay! (yippee)
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By Afania 2025-07-18 11:16:31
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
underage girls selling content on OF,


Lol, just googling "child abuse OnlyFan" got me 2 dozens articles attacking OF for this matter, with police involved. You acted as if those controversial content on OF got a free pass by they didn't.

Looks like our society punishes morally questionable content on every platform equally, I don't see unfair treatment between different platforms like Nynja claimed. Case closed.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-07-18 11:49:24
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Asura.Bertana said: »
its friyay! (yippee)

Blessed for friday - Bless that Zelda has no balls - Blessed Stellar blade for giving 600 fps - Blessed my Oled tab s9 for making my life better

But Blessed to my wife and kid for making my morning special with waffles and bacon
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By Viciouss 2025-07-18 14:13:33
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What happened to Stellar Blade? They sold 1m copies in 3 days or whatever and then it just dropped out of the news cycle. Poofed.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-18 14:14:01
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Afania said: »
Lol, just googling "child abuse OnlyFan" got me 2 dozens articles attacking OF for this matter, with police involved. You acted as if those controversial content on OF got a free pass by they didn't.
You think those two dozen articles were the end of it and OF is pristine clean and its just 18+ women doing adult content on their own accord???

You really are naive.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-18 14:15:52
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Viciouss said: »
What happened to Stellar Blade? They sold 1m copies in 3 days or whatever and then it just dropped out of the news cycle. Poofed.
Because they announced sales milestones and that was it. It poofed because people were playing it. It also released in early 2024 before being ported to PC in 2025, so there wasnt much to discuss in the news cycle.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-07-18 14:21:57
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Afania said: »
just googling "child abuse OnlyFan"
you are now on a list
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By K123 2025-07-18 14:28:27
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Afania said: »
just googling "child abuse OnlyFan"
you are now on a list
I remember when motherless would throw up a screen like this if you searched for jailbait, I only know because of following a link from 4chan
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By K123 2025-07-18 14:29:50
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Afania said: »
That's why the term "step" even exist, to avoid incest moral issues no?
wtf
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-18 14:37:49
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Afania said: »
just googling "child abuse OnlyFan"
you are now on a list
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-18 14:42:50
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But hey, if you think certain games shouldnt be available to due illegal content, even if its fictional content, I know a certain big game that sold 15 million copies that should be refunded and delisted:


Or is this acceptable because reasons?
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By Afania 2025-07-18 15:01:14
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
if you think certain games shouldnt be available to due illegal content


I didn't make an argument that rape/incest games should be banned. I only make an argument that those games getting banned isn't gender war issue, it's moral issue. Just because feminists are involved in it, doesn't mean feminists are the only one that's pushing it. There are just as many conservatives and religious groups that's against rape simulator in games.

That being said, I have zero intention to defend for rape/incest in games and got myself burned by a bunch of angry mobs. If you feel people's freedom to enjoy rape or incest in video game is so important, feel free to fight for their freedom, I'm not gonna stop you. Mind you, you are fighting an uphill battle with multiple conservative and religious groups that hates these things, not just feminists.
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2025-07-18 15:04:29
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This is just the niche needed for ubisoft to rebrand as ubehard
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By Pantafernando 2025-07-18 15:14:34
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Afania said: »
googling "child abuse OnlyFan" got me 2

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By Afania 2025-07-18 15:15:25
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Or is this acceptable because reasons?


From the perspective of law I think rape is worse than bear sex. I'm my region the punishment for animal abuse is less than 1 year sentence at worst, most of the time you pay a small fine and you get away from it.

However, the punishment for rape is 3 yr sentence to 10 year. Raping human and raping (by law it's called abuse) an animal aren't on the same level when it comes how serious they are in the society.

Scientifically I think incest is also worse than bear sex, since human and bears can't produce offspring, which is the main reason why incest is banned to begin with.

Another thing worth noting: afaik that bear in BG3 is actually druid human with consent. Which means it's not illegal at all.

Now are you done with all that "they are all bad, how come they can do this but not this!?" faulty arguments? Not all the illegal actions are viewed equally in the society. Arguing what can or can't be done because another different thing has also been done is just silly and wasting time.
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By Dodik 2025-07-18 15:18:36
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It should not surprise you to know that TikTok allows users to send "gifts" to people streaming on there, often in exchange for.. whatever it is.

People on there includes teenagers.

People use TikTok as a platform very much like OF. But it's not OF and is not "for that", so it flies very much under the radar.

But it's out there.
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By Pantafernando 2025-07-18 15:19:03
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Afania said: »
enjoy rape or incest

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By Pantafernando 2025-07-18 15:20:50
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Afania said: »
rape is worse than bear sex.

Im starting to think Alfania thinks the penal code is a checklist...
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-07-18 15:23:26
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Or is this acceptable because reasons?

I mean obviously, it's fine as long as it's degenerate.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2025-07-18 15:23:33
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Afania said: »
controversial kinks like rape/incest/torture
smh Afania...
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By Dodik 2025-07-18 15:25:47
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I mean Afania was shocked at how.. intense.. Euphoria the game was, one of the least out there of out there games of that type.
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