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By RadialArcana 2025-06-13 13:30:37
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You're emotionally invested in the story and you're not using logic because of it.
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By Afania 2025-06-13 13:31:11
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
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RadialArcana said: »
A car is not the same as a plane.

A car is made to have systems in it to protect the driver in a very designed state, air bags, car design, crumple zones.

A plane has none of this, the seating system is garbage in terms of surviving. If the plane hits the ground, the force of that impact is transferred right to you and your gonna get broken hips, legs and back real fast. The entire plane will crumple up into trash like a it's paper.

Lol what? You know nothing about aerospace engineering. Stop pretending like you know.
You're the one who just equated a plane crash with a car crash and said they're similar, but now after being called out how car's are literally designed to crumple up for the safety of the passengers, you're backpeddaling due to a lack of authority on airplane safety engineering?


I didn't say they are similar structure wise. I only said luck has always been a factor to survive.
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By Afania 2025-06-13 13:35:23
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RadialArcana said: »
you're not using logic


No you.

Or rather, you aren't using common sense.

How can you not got caught by pretending to be an airplane passenger in an event this big exactly? When everyone will go investigate what happened it's going to be very hard to hide from all the investigators and government involved.

Common sense do you have it?
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By RadialArcana 2025-06-13 13:41:17
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How can you not got caught by pretending to be an airplane passenger in an event this big exactly? When everyone will go investigate what happened it's going to be very hard to hide from all the investigators and government involved.

It's India. do you even know what that means? Go look at the footage, people are standing around eating and looking at it like it's a circus. India is nothing like a 1st world country, the emergency services are incompetent and barely functional compared to what you get in the west.

India is not a first world nation, the entire crash site is open to the public.

It would be laughably easy to do what I said there, it would be impossible in a first world country.

Anyway believe what you want.
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By Afania 2025-06-13 13:48:46
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RadialArcana said: »
Afania said: »
How can you not got caught by pretending to be an airplane passenger in an event this big exactly? When everyone will go investigate what happened it's going to be very hard to hide from all the investigators and government involved.

It's India. do you even know what that means? Go look at the footage, people are standing around eating and looking at it like it's a circus. India is nothing like a 1st world country, the emergency services are incompetent and barely functional compared to what you get in the west.

India is not a first world nation, the entire crash site is open to the public.

It would be laughably easy to do what I said there, it would be impossible in a first world country.





Yeah, you can go walk out of plane wreckage claiming you are an passenger BUT the government can check the record and see if you really leave the border.

If this man called Vishwash Kumar Ramesh never leave the border then people will find out eventually. Unless the government somehow decided to help him hide the truth (but why?)

Again, common sense told me luck can create outlier results in a plane crash and common sense also told me border control will have record on who exits the border.

So the chance of actually faking this for a long time is low. If it's indeed fake then we should see the truth surface soon enough.
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By gistofanything 2025-06-13 13:49:15
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i probably need to invest in a keurig machine at some point
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By Kaffy 2025-06-13 13:57:09
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I had one only last a couple of months, but a new one was only $30

damn so I helped the landfills even more :(
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By Josiahafk 2025-06-13 13:57:09
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gistofanything said: »
i probably need to invest in a keurig machine at some point
Looking up the inventor of those K-Pods the Keurig uses is a depressing story, he considers his invention his biggest regret due to how massively they contribute to landfill waste accumulation
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By RadialArcana 2025-06-13 13:57:24
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Afania said: »
Yeah, you can go walk out of plane wreckage claiming you are an passenger BUT the government can check the record and see if you really leave the border.

If this man called Vishwash Kumar Ramesh never leave the border then people will find out eventually. Unless the government somehow decided to help him hide the truth (but why?)

Again, common sense told me luck can create outlier results in a plane crash and common sense also told me border control will have record on who exits the border.

So the chance of actually faking this for a long time is low. If it's indeed fake then we should see the truth surface soon enough.

India is laughably corrupt and incompetent.

I would never suggest what I did if it was a first world country, it's not. It's 100% believable that this man missed his flight and then saw the crash and then went there after and saw an opportunity.

He did not survive this crash, and if he did his body would be an insane state of damage. He would not be walking around (as can be seen in the footage) like nothing happened.

That you're arguing this is sad. You don't even have any arguments, you're just saying he lucky tho.
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By Afania 2025-06-13 13:59:53
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RadialArcana said: »
It's 100% believable that this man missed his flight and then saw the crash and then went there after and saw an opportunity.


Like I said, if he missed the flight then the he won't leave a record on the border control since he never exit the country. People will find out eventually.
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By RadialArcana 2025-06-13 14:02:50
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Nobody will find out, everyone involved will be on TV too saying he is superman. Nobody cares, the country is corrupt asf.

If you want to believe this fairy story then so be it.
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By Afania 2025-06-13 14:05:44
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RadialArcana said: »
Nobody will find out, everyone involved will be on TV too saying he is superman. Nobody cares, the country is corrupt asf.

If you want to believe this fairy story then so be it.


You conclusion is entirely based on the assumption that government and airline company both choose to hide the truth from the public in order to help this man accomplish his fame and fortune.

Who is this guy? Why is he so important that government and airline company all work together for his benefit?

This makes way less sense to me than simply saying he won the luck lottery in a plane crash lol.
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By Afania 2025-06-13 14:26:00
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RadialArcana said: »
If someone got shot in the face with a rifle an they say it bounced off their gold tooth cause they were lucky, would you believe it? or would you understand the actual forces being applied means it's impossible?


It depends on the shooting location and the angle?

There are many "random variables" happens when a crash happened. If you do physics simulation 5 million times it's possible that one of the variables all hit on the right time and one of the passenger got less damage than normal.

Like I said, the chance isn't 0. Maybe it's 0.00000000000001% or something.

On the other hand, walking into the wreckage claiming they are the survivor seems like a dumb move to me. You have to bribe the government AND airline company (or get lucky that airline company made a mistake) beforehand for it to work. It requires tons of setup before pulling this off, or else people will find out.

If this is faked on a whim how did this guy knows the airline company missed him when they count the passenger?

If you didn't do any of the setup with every party involved can you just walk into the wreckage and walk out then get away with it? My common sense says no. Faking things at this scale isn't as easy as you think, at least not for a long time.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-06-13 14:45:04
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When they autopsy victims of commercial plane accidents, they are often found to have died from smoke inhalation or other fire related deaths, not trauma. Blunt force trauma is certainly a factor, but not always and the initial impact is survivable depending on a lot of factors.

It's not always a nose first high speed crash either, a lot of them crash with a nose up attitude and strike the ground, causing the airframe to separate and forces will apply differently depending on where you are in the airplane. This is why people in the rearmost portion closest to the empennage tend to survive, but also why bodies tend to not appear as mangled as you'd think, albeit burned.

There have been others (Air Florida 90, Delta 191, Eastern 212) where people survived due to the way the impacts occurred and where they were seated. Often survivors (JAL123) report hearing screams and noises indicating survival but the victims died after for varying reasons. So trauma from the force isn't always fatal immediately and is survivable with some luck.

The likelihood of someone who was ticketed on the flight being close enough, running, burning and bruising himself, placing him in the wreckage to be removed before anyone got there, is just not realistic. He would've had to been in the building when it happened, which would've been very coincidental. It was also stated he was traveling with his brother who was on board, so it's likely they were together. Sometimes crazy things happen and, like I linked before, there are people who fell thousands of feet with no parachute and survived (this happened in other cases, also) purely through luck and coincidence. I don't see any reason to doubt his story and him making it up requires too much coincidence to be true.
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By gistofanything 2025-06-13 14:46:30
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Josiahafk said: »
gistofanything said: »
i probably need to invest in a keurig machine at some point
Looking up the inventor of those K-Pods the Keurig uses is a depressing story, he considers his invention his biggest regret due to how massively they contribute to landfill waste accumulation

i suppose but like i dont get daily company coffee anymore so i gotta figure out a not starbucks solution u know what i mean
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-06-13 14:47:31
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No ones saying surviving a major airplane crash is impossible, its just improbable. I specified major because all the data that says the survival rate is high is skewed to include minor accidents or mishaps. Its like including fender bender accidents vs crashing into a wall at 130km/h. Yes they are both accidents, but we both know the survival rate of each accident is very different.

Surviving a plane crash that claimed the lives of ~260 people and to be able to walk away on your own power with very minor injuries is incredibly suspect.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-06-13 14:50:15
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Its like the guy who a few hours ago posted how they make 130k Galli per run because they do “9/9 and more objectives no one knows about”.
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By Afania 2025-06-13 15:00:32
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Surviving a plane crash that claimed the lives of ~260 people and to be able to walk away on your own power with very minor injuries is incredibly suspect.


It's still more believable than saying the man missed the flight, then he decided to pretend to be a survivor on a whim. So he ran to the crash site, walk into the wreckage while dozens of bystanders are filming everything and uploading them to X, and somehow not get caught. Then for whatever reason the airline company also happened to count the passenger number wrong for this flight and didn't find out at all.

Or maybe after crash he quickly called the corrupted government official and the corrupted airline company and arranged a bribe deal so he can pretend to be a survivor and not got caught. After the deals are made he quickly ran to the wreckage, walked in then walked out with 3 dozen eyes watching and filming lol.

Either way those scenario are all very unlikely. If you want to say this guy's story is fake, you need to explain how he got there on time and not got caught in the entire process when several parties involved can all expose him in every step. Then you'd realize there will be way more holes in this version of story.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-06-13 15:09:52
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Thats the neat part, I actually dont.

Find me another MAJOR place crash (95% or more fatality rate) where someone not only survived the crash, but exited the wreckage on their own power relatively unscathed.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-06-13 15:17:18
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gistofanything said: »
i probably need to invest in a keurig machine at some point
Indeed!!! How else can you get 10 cups worth of coffee for twice as much as a pound of whole beans?

You can get the same effect by lighting a dollar bill on fire and throwing 1/2 oz of recyclable* plastic away every time you have a cup of joe.

*I once worked in recycling. Plastic recycling is indeed a scam. But we desperately need it to work. And it is getting closer to reality every year.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-06-13 15:27:19
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I have a keurig viable coffee machine
It takes pods or has a cup to put grounds in

I hate cleaning the cup. I can throw about 95% of the grounds in the trash, the rest go down my sink. I doubt its good for the pipes.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-06-13 15:31:34
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Find me another MAJOR place crash (95% or more fatality rate) where someone not only survived the crash, but exited the wreckage on their own power relatively unscathed.

I listed several above.

Air Florida Flight 90 had several people in the water, some of which were treading water and swimming. This one is a bit different because they weren't "walking" but they were active afterwards or they would've drowned. It was also highly publicized and recorded.

There was another, I forget which it was, where they exited via an opening in the rear of the aircraft before the airplane burst into flames and killed everyone else. Might have been Delta 191 but I don't recall.

There was another where a young girl was blown from the airplane, landed on the ground after falling ~10k ft, then survived 10 days in the jungle until she was rescued.

If you study this enough you'll find a number of these accidents that occur at either takeoff or landing happened at slow enough speeds that the airplane broke apart or impacted the ground in such a way that facilitated survival with minimal injury to the survivors until a post crash fire consumed the airplane and killing the rest. Either that or circumstances aligned perfectly for them to survive an otherwise incredible circumstance.
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By RadialArcana 2025-06-13 15:46:39
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Asura.Iamaman said: »
When they autopsy victims of commercial plane accidents, they are often found to have died from smoke inhalation or other fire related deaths, not trauma.

The reason for this, is when you're on a plane and it crashes the majority of the force is going to be on your legs, hip, spine and neck (there is about 2 inches of foam to pad the impact of a massive drop). The reason they die from inhalation is they can't move, they are in severe pain and crippled from the force of the impact.

The initial impact will kill a lot of people due to organ damage, but healthy young people will often just be crippled and die from inhalation or burning cause they can't move.

The point though is they're not walking out of it like nothing happened, no matter how lucky they are.
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By Kaffy 2025-06-13 15:48:35
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if they're burning the kpods (which is likely), do you think that ends up wasting more space than burnt grounds/filters?
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By Afania 2025-06-13 15:54:05
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RadialArcana said: »
The point though is they're not walking out of it like nothing happened,


That dude didn't walk out like "nothing happened", he still sustained damage and he was sent to hospital.

Once I read a plane crash survivor's testimonial in an interview. She also walked out of the plane when it crashed by herself, while hurting everywhere. Doesn't stop her from being able to walk and function relatively well before she was sent to the hospital.

You see someone that can walk after crash so you assume they aren't injured at all? This is a weird assumption lol.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-06-13 15:57:21
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I literally linked a video showing the guy walking on his own power relatively unscathed.

If you didnt watch it, thats on you, but you cant plead ignorance because “its on twitter and i dont use twitter its for nazis”


Are you asking me to not believe what my eyes are seeing? I highly doubt it was AI since I dont think AI would have enough knowledge of the situation and the so-called survivor.



Also iamaman, ill do a deep dive on your post when i get home. I started looking at air florida then realized it would be too annoying to back and forth on my phone.
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By Afania 2025-06-13 16:05:07
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
If you didnt watch it, thats on you, but you cant plead ignorance because “its on twitter and i dont use twitter its for nazis”


What the *** are you blabbing about? When did I say anything about Twitter and Nazi? Cut that crap.

Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Are you asking me to not believe what my eyes are seeing? I highly doubt it was AI since I dont think AI would have enough knowledge of the situation and the so-called survivor.

Didn't say it is AI. I only said "being able to walk" and "uninjured" are 2 very different thing. That dude's injury isn't severe. But he still went to hospital and will stay there for a few days.
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By Pantafernando 2025-06-13 16:08:11
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chill, kids
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-06-13 16:09:25
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1-someones said it before, i dont take notes
2-Then look at the video and tell me what you see
Because that guy does not look like hes been in a plane accident that crashed and burned
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