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By Afania 2025-06-07 13:56:04
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
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WoW is the same age as XI and you don't get that there.
False. Not just the few years difference in the age of the games but XI is of the Everquest generation of MMOs. WoW STARTED the next generation of MMOs.

And much to my disappointment we are STILL in the WoW generation.


"Modern MMO" has evolved into Fortnite and now Roblox type of games...yeah those aren't traditional MMORPG but they provided social interaction and sense of community that people used to seek when they played MMORPG back in 2004.

That's why MMORPG is stagnant IMO. The market for social interaction games always existed, but now customers prefer something else now.

(I think it's also why plenty of people in FFXIV enjoyed housing and dancing more than hardcore raid, they play for social need.)
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By Kaffy 2025-06-07 15:11:51
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Yoshida was brought in on 14 after studying WoW pretty extensively, right? So to SE, at least, it was different enough from other MMOs of the time for them to want to copy it. Granted this was after years of operation for both MMOs, and obviously WoW had grown beyond imagination while FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 came nowhere close.

Would be interesting to see sub numbers side by side in the 2005 timeframe
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-06-07 16:02:06
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
RadialArcana said: »
WoW is the same age as XI and you don't get that there.
False. Not just the few years difference in the age of the games but XI is of the Everquest generation of MMOs. WoW STARTED the next generation of MMOs.

And much to my disappointment we are STILL in the WoW generation.
FFXI released 2002
WOW released 2004

Blizzard started development for WoW in 1999, the same year SE started development for FFXI
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
FFXI has evolved a lot in the last 23 years, the FFXI on release is nowhere near the same as the FFXI during SoA. But to suggest that FFXI and WoW are complete era shifts is outlandish.
It was a total paradigm shift.

Yes, XI is not what it was. But it still has time sinks like airships and boats taking actual travel time. Has it gained quest markers? (Did EQ have quest markers?) I could go on and on with the differences of the EQ era and the WoW era but, in a nutshell, XI followed a formula WoW set out to break that formula and it did.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-06-07 17:05:43
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What makes Wow "the new era"? Quest markers and the lack of airships and boat time sinks (the latter actually having content within)?
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