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Random Thoughts.....What are you thinking?
By Pantafernando 2025-01-19 13:19:33
I also promise to get the money from taxes, hire the hottest OF gilrs to make me paws massage and stream it on Twitch
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By Afania 2025-01-19 13:20:11
If its not about wealth, then what is it?
It is about wealth, obviously.
you cant make everyone a millionaire
Your definition of rich=be a millionaire.
My definition of rich=you can afford things that you want and live a comfortable life.
That's the difference.
and heres what socialists dont understand
I am not a socialist if I said "cut the tax!". More tax is socialist policy, cutting the tax isn't.
RMT generate billions of gil, cost of everything goes up because any jerkoff is sitting on a bunch of gil.
SE bans a shitton of RMT removing a bunch of gil from the economy, and the cost of everything goes down because people start being more careful with their gil because theres less to go around.
What you are describing here is similar to Fed QE(money printing). Yes, QE cause inflation BUT I've never say QE leads to everyone being wealthy, obviously not.
IMO one thing that makes the most noticable different in terms of people's wealth is tax rate. If your income tax is 5% then every month you lose 5%. If your income tax rate is 25%-40% then every month that's how much you lose.
In the long run, high tax makes you more poor because you save less.
So, by reducing tax rate you are technically making everyone more rich this way.
By Kaffy 2025-01-19 13:22:35
Looks like tiktok already flipping the switch back on in anticipation of Trump inauguration.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-19 13:42:55
Your definition of rich=be a millionaire. Millionaire was an arbitrary number chosen of a large enough number.
My definition of rich=you can afford things that you want and live a comfortable life.
That's the difference. That was the intent when the US and CAD govts put massive raises to the minimum wage, so those making minimum wage "can live a more comfortable life and not need to work 80 hours a week to make ends meet". So they roughly doubled minimum wage, and in turn they tripled the cost of a big mac trio and quadrupled the cost of a dozen eggs.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-01-19 13:50:07
IMO one thing that makes the most noticable different in terms of people's wealth is tax rate. If your income tax is 5% then every month you lose 5%. If your income tax rate is 25%-40% then every month that's how much you lose.
In the long run, high tax makes you more poor because you save less.
So, by reducing tax rate you are technically making everyone more rich this way.
I'm not sure if you're referring to western countries, or your own country, but we have progressive tax rates. The poor pay next to nothing in tax as is, so cutting income tax would not noticeably help them escape poverty. If anything, it would increase the middle class disposable income and drive prices up.
Not opposed to tax cuts, mind you. They just wouldn't do what you're claiming.
By Zehira 2025-01-19 14:18:22
Looks like tiktok already flipping the switch back on in anticipation of Trump inauguration.
They got 90 days to consider.
Elon said to be against the ban, pointing out that while TikTok is allowed in the US, his X isn't allowed in China, which feels a bit unfair.
By Afania 2025-01-19 14:20:18
That was the intent when the US and CAD govts put massive raises to the minimum wage, so those making minimum wage "can live a more comfortable life and not need to work 80 hours a week to make ends meet". So they roughly doubled minimum wage, and in turn they tripled the cost of a big mac trio and quadrupled the cost of a dozen eggs.
Well, if you've ever read my posts in RT you'd know I don't believe low income people's life quality can increase with minimum wage increase lol.
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/individuals/frequently-asked-questions-individuals/canadian-income-tax-rates-individuals-current-previous-years.html#toc0
CAD has minimum of 15% federal tax and 5-10% provincial tax rate, then it goes up from there. That's 20%-25% of your money gone every month even if your income is on the lowest bracket. Then there is 27%(I think?) capital gain tax and like 5-15% sales tax paid by the buyers(yikes) depends on the province.
So basically no matter what you do, CAD government took a cut and this portion is quite large. Even if your salary is on the low end you still pay a lot of tax. Even if you want to trade some stocks for quick cash you pay tax even for that. The options to make/save more money and become wealthy is more limited.
Just for the sake of comparison, in my region the lowest bracket for income tax and sales tax is 5%, there are no capital gain tax. With tax rate this low, even if your income is low, you still have extra money that you can save and invest. Doing stock swing trading for quick cash can increase your wealth if you are good at it.
I would argue that the reason why working class are poor in CAD is because they are paying too much income tax to the government.
This is what I really meant by "make everyone rich". Even if your income is low, with lower tax you have more money therefore more rich even if your income is on the low end.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-19 14:22:02
The amount of tears over a tiktok ban because peoples lives are being flipped upside down without tiktok, maybe it should stay banned. That ***is just legalized crack to those people.
One *** day without it and theyre suffering massive withdrawals.
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By Afania 2025-01-19 14:24:05
IMO one thing that makes the most noticable different in terms of people's wealth is tax rate. If your income tax is 5% then every month you lose 5%. If your income tax rate is 25%-40% then every month that's how much you lose.
In the long run, high tax makes you more poor because you save less.
So, by reducing tax rate you are technically making everyone more rich this way.
I'm not sure if you're referring to western countries, or your own country, but we have progressive tax rates. The poor pay next to nothing in tax as is, so cutting income tax would not noticeably help them escape poverty. If anything, it would increase the middle class disposable income and drive prices up.
Not sure about the US but in CAD the lowest taxable income(55k yearly) is 15% + 4%-10% depending on the province.
You have to be VERY poor to pay 0% in tax, but for anyone with a normal full-time job, that's how much you pay.
I don't see how having more disposable income would 100% driving the price up. We have been keeping inflation rate <2% until very recently when large amount of foreign money entered the economy 4-5 years ago.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-19 14:26:52
You know youre just scratching the surface about taxes in canada with “income tax”, right?
By Afania 2025-01-19 14:31:58
You know youre just scratching the surface about taxes in canada with “income tax”, right?
What do you mean? If you mean all those many pages of tax exemption rules then yeah, I didn't include them to avoid turning the discussion into a math mess.
I still don't think CAD is a low tax county though. It's ranked #25 out of 172 countries on the list of highest taxes country in the world. So it's definitely up there.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-19 14:39:02
No
We have carbon tax, which is a tax levied due to carbon footprint of creating or transferring goods, which gets pushed onto the product. The $5 eggs get taxed by the govt for carbon emissions in creation and delivery and keeping them cold. That gets pushed onto the product so now theyre $7 (applies to literally anything)
We have sales tax, which is applied to any goods and services purchased.
Oh and that sales tax is levied on top of the carbon tax thats been included in the base sales price. We are paying sales tax on the $7 of eggs, not the pre-carbon tax cost of $5.
So we are purchasing goods and services with our money that has already been taxed, that has a carbon tax applied to the base cost of the item, as well as a sales tax on the item.
I know all about getting *** over with taxes, thanks. Numbers wise, i make more money today than I did 10 years ago. I also have less purchasing power than I had 10 years ago. Thats inflation, thats taxes, thats a *** up socialist globalist garbage govt at work.
Anyways, imma stop before it devolves too far into politics and i get angry pms from people in green.
By Afania 2025-01-19 14:54:11
That's why you all should vote for me, I'm gonna do a better job than your last PM or president ;)
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-19 15:05:06
Ill pass, I fall under middle class, lower end of it but still middle class. Your policies will have zero benefit for me financially, and your open support for DEI policies will hinder me greatly as a heterosexual white male.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2025-01-19 15:25:31
Are meme coins worth it?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-01-19 15:30:55
Looks like tiktok already flipping the switch back on in anticipation of Trump inauguration. An executive order cannot overturn nor amend a judicial ruling.
I will bet that no one has mentioned this to Trump. I also bet that Elon doesn't GAS about this. What I can't understand is how tiktoc's lawyers overlooked this.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-01-19 15:33:17
Worth what?
Ask "investors" in the hawk tuah girl's $hawkcoin that question.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2025-01-19 15:36:37
Ask "investors" in the hawk tuah girl's $hawkcoin that question. Good point.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-01-19 15:38:22
When the mob is the boss the executive orders mean whatever the *** he wants them to mean, and has the highest, absolute authority. or the mob threatens your family and you cave.
It was always about money and anyone who interferes with that money gathering is going to find themselves jumping out of windows in 2025.
By Zehira 2025-01-19 16:59:41
I would go with Dogecoin. Of course, because of Elon Musk's influence. It's now about $0.35 a coin. With Trump coming back into power, it probably could hit $2 by 2030.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2025-01-19 17:29:00
With Trump coming back into power, it probably could hit $2 by 2030. Trumps meme coin exploded this weekend, thats why I was asking, not sure if it smart getting in rn.
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By Asura.Toeknee 2025-01-19 17:30:58
No, gambling isn't worth it
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-19 18:05:42
Trumps meme coin exploded this weekend, thats why I was asking, not sure if it smart getting in rn. You missed your opportunity.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-01-19 18:14:11
No, gambling isn't worth it Memcoins aren't gambling. They are supposed to be cute and fun with no chance of appreciation. Trump's memcoins are a way to bribe donate money directly to Trump.
The ones that are supposed to be money, THAT'S gambling.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-19 18:21:38
But it is gambling.
Anything where you're putting money into something for the sole purpose being the hope you'll get more money back is gambling.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-01-19 18:45:14
Trumps meme coin exploded this weekend, thats why I was asking, not sure if it smart getting in rn. You missed your opportunity. Actually no one here had an opportunity to get in on the launch. Kinda like IPOs, preferred investors only.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-01-19 19:02:40
But it is gambling.
Anything where you're putting money into something for the sole purpose being the hope you'll get more money back is gambling. Memcoins aren't gambling. They are supposed to be cute and fun with no chance of appreciation. And if you do buy a memcoin with thought of appreciation or sugarplums dancing in your head you aren't gambling either, you are deluded. See my post about $hawkcoin above.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2025-01-19 19:08:34
Damn. I'm deluded. :sadge:
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-01-19 19:13:38
To expand on my post above:
Horse racing, the stock market, blackjack, roulette are all gambling. Commodities are HIGH RISK gambling. Poker can be gambling but mostly isn't. Mahjong in the Chinese diaspora is like poker.
The cowboy in the "but its the only game in town" joke knows he isn't gambling, he is paying for amusement.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-01-19 19:50:32
This post is dedicated to Panta.
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This is a thread that I found on another website I post at. It can be really really interesting. I thought it deserved a place here.
Post your random thoughts for the day here, or anything else that intrigues you.
For starters, is it possible to give constructive critism to someone who doesn't have a neck? I totally just walked by a girl who didn't. Someone isn't getting a necklace for Valentines day!
And who decided black and white can't be colors? I want to say a racist. I really do.
Inb4thisthreadgetsreallywtf
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