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 Siren.Kalilla
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-05-07 16:27:14
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
Subs > dubs
QFT

paged, that makes it true!!
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-07 16:29:26
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Depends on the dubs, if they're done professionally there's nothing wrong with them.
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By Asura.Vyre 2013-05-07 16:30:04
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
Subs > dubs
QFT

paged, that makes it true!!
Nope, Chuck Testa.

It's not that I hate subs, sometimes they are better, but in the animes that I have watched, generally they're about even... either that or the English dub just blows the JP dub out of the water(hi DBZ). In cases where they're about samesies, I prefer English, because I prefer to not be constantly staring at the bottom of the screen.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-05-07 16:31:45
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The majority of dubs are awful and don't do the show justice.

The more you watch subs the less you have to keep your eyes at the bottom of the screen.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2013-05-07 16:32:35
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So yeah Iron Man 3 was pretty awesome :3
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-05-07 16:35:51
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Depends on the dubs, if they're done professionally there's nothing wrong with them.
I'm very picky about the voice of the characters, and even the best dubs have issues with some of the characters in the show. If the voice doesn't fit the character it will ruin the show for me, sub or dub.
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By Cerberus.Masterdarkjedi 2013-05-07 16:40:28
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thinking about whos the next guy I'm gona blast at lol
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-05-07 16:40:38
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
The majority of dubs are awful and don't do the show justice.

The more you watch subs the less you have to keep your eyes at the bottom of the screen.

This is why I don't play JRPGs in English anymore and if subs and original audio isn't in the game I won't buy it :|
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By Asura.Vyre 2013-05-07 16:40:57
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
The majority of dubs are awful and don't do the show justice.

The more you watch subs the less you have to keep your eyes at the bottom of the screen.
Simply not true, unless you're re watching the anime. I have no trouble keeping up with the dialogue or even reading it quickly, but you still miss scene impact on the first go around. Plus, unless you actually, truly understand Japanese, you lose some of what is being conveyed.

I do like watching something dubbed and then watching its subbed counterpart. It's fun to see how they deal with what they need to convey. I feel that subs often lose out on character personality by using formal diction in informal cases.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-05-07 16:43:18
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Game Japanese isn't very different from Anime Japanese so it's basically the same lol
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By Shiva.Azraelina 2013-05-07 16:47:55
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Something about english voices on anime isn't right.

I DUNNO MAN.

subs ftw
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-05-07 16:49:00
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Shiva.Azraelina said: »
Something about english voices on anime isn't right.

I DUNNO MAN.

subs ftw
What about the English voice actors that try to match the vocal range of the Japanese actors...
MOST ANNOYING FEMALE SOUNDS EVER MADE IN ENGLISH!
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-05-07 16:49:18
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Shiva.Azraelina said: »
Something about english voices on anime isn't right.

I DUNNO MAN.

subs ftw

Weird in JRPGs if they look like anime characters too >_>
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-05-07 16:49:52
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Ramuh.Urial said: »
Shiva.Azraelina said: »
Something about english voices on anime isn't right.

I DUNNO MAN.

subs ftw
What about the English voice actors that try to match the vocal range of the Japanese actors...
MOST ANNOYING FEMALE SOUNDS EVER MADE IN ENGLISH!

Or when it sounds like they're just reading the script and not acting the part.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-05-07 16:50:52
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Asura.Vyre said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
The majority of dubs are awful and don't do the show justice.

The more you watch subs the less you have to keep your eyes at the bottom of the screen.
Simply not true, unless you're re watching the anime. I have no trouble keeping up with the dialogue or even reading it quickly, but you still miss scene impact on the first go around. Plus, unless you actually, truly understand Japanese, you lose some of what is being conveyed.
Just because it's now in English doesn't mean it's conveyed correctly now.

If you listen to English while having subs on they completely remove the Japanese culture references and replace it with something else. You're actually missing out on more of what is trying to be conveyed by listening to a dub.

Asura.Vyre said: »
I do like watching something dubbed and then watching its subbed counterpart. It's fun to see how they deal with what they need to convey. I feel that subs often lose out on character personality by using formal diction in informal cases.
A dub might change the character's attitude completely because of the voice actor they use. If it's a professional dub, which few are, then they might have some good voice actors available but even professionals mess it up, just not as much.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-05-07 16:52:14
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Honorifics can also change how you look at the relationships between characters
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By Kittykite 2013-05-07 16:53:37
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Woo got to Anor Londo as a level 4(should have been level 2 but stupid Griggs >:( always messing up!)
Now I'm basically back to where this character already was :| ... almost lol
Sweet congrats I just got this Xbox char the gaping dragon killed so I can +10 a weapon but haven't bothered ringing any bells yet lol

You want ornstein and smough help for Leo ring?
I've just gotten to Anor Londo :| so still gotta go through it all >_> I suck at the Silver Knight archer part... but when I get there I'll let you know.
You just reminded me I need to lower the water in New Londo :(
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-07 16:54:01
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I don't have a lot of experience with english dubs, but from the few I've heard they were pretty bad. It's just that probably usa don't use much real actors for them as movies and tv series don't require them, whereas in here, like in Spain and other places, everything needs to be dubbed so it's usually good voices. Of course not always, but most of the times italian dubs are ok.
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By volkom 2013-05-07 17:00:17
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damn you ina for posting that dark souls video a few pages back.
i almost cried during half of them T_T
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By Asura.Vyre 2013-05-07 17:01:03
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
The majority of dubs are awful and don't do the show justice.

The more you watch subs the less you have to keep your eyes at the bottom of the screen.
Simply not true, unless you're re watching the anime. I have no trouble keeping up with the dialogue or even reading it quickly, but you still miss scene impact on the first go around. Plus, unless you actually, truly understand Japanese, you lose some of what is being conveyed.
Just because it's now in English doesn't mean it's conveyed correctly now.

If you listen to English while having subs on they completely remove the Japanese culture references and replace it with something else. You're actually missing out on more of what is trying to be conveyed by listening to a dub.

Asura.Vyre said: »
I do like watching something dubbed and then watching its subbed counterpart. It's fun to see how they deal with what they need to convey. I feel that subs often lose out on character personality by using formal diction in informal cases.
A dub might change the character's attitude completely because of the voice actor they use. If it's a professional dub, which few are, then they might have some good voice actors available but even professionals mess it up, just not as much.
Conveyed to and for the Japanese in those cases, but there are many times where other nationalities just aren't going to understand Japanese culture, and this results in loss of impact. Very few animes need to have deep rooted ties to Japan to convey the story, and at times trying to stick with that gets in the way of the show.

It's cheaper to properly sub an anime than it is to dub one. Therefore you're going to find higher quality subs more often than not, but most really good animes have official dubs which are amazing. Don't forget that the dub voice actors have to infer/be told how their character is motivated. They have more barriers to go through than a Seiyuu. Have you watched any English adult cartoons with Japanese voice acting? I want to sometime, but it hadn't crossed my mind till now. I bet they mess up too.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-05-07 17:01:21
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Swedish dubs are surprisingly good, at least when it comes to animated movies (like Disney and Pixar).

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By Kittykite 2013-05-07 17:01:53
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Woo got to Anor Londo as a level 4(should have been level 2 but stupid Griggs >:( always messing up!)
Now I'm basically back to where this character already was :| ... almost lol
Sweet congrats I just got this Xbox char the gaping dragon killed so I can +10 a weapon but haven't bothered ringing any bells yet lol

You want ornstein and smough help for Leo ring?
I've just gotten to Anor Londo :| so still gotta go through it all >_> I suck at the Silver Knight archer part... but when I get there I'll let you know.
You just reminded me I need to lower the water in New Londo :(
After we best smough you can lvl up a shitload freely and make the game peasy then we can pvp again, no worries lol

I will say though
Load times on pc = 1x speed
Load times on hexy = 2x as long
Load times on ps3 = 4x as long lol
Yeah it does take awhile to load :(
x_x can't wait till I can level up again lol, really need to get faith/attunement up so I can use those spells D:
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By Bismarck.Misao 2013-05-07 17:08:01
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By Asura.Vyre 2013-05-07 17:08:34
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Now this is some good Socratic discussion.
 
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By Kittykite 2013-05-07 17:14:27
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
Kittykite said: »
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
Kittykite said: »
Carbuncle.Josiahfk said: »
Kittykite said: »
Woo got to Anor Londo as a level 4(should have been level 2 but stupid Griggs >:( always messing up!)
Now I'm basically back to where this character already was :| ... almost lol
Sweet congrats I just got this Xbox char the gaping dragon killed so I can +10 a weapon but haven't bothered ringing any bells yet lol

You want ornstein and smough help for Leo ring?
I've just gotten to Anor Londo :| so still gotta go through it all >_> I suck at the Silver Knight archer part... but when I get there I'll let you know.
You just reminded me I need to lower the water in New Londo :(
After we best smough you can lvl up a shitload freely and make the game peasy then we can pvp again, no worries lol

I will say though
Load times on pc = 1x speed
Load times on hexy = 2x as long
Load times on ps3 = 4x as long lol
Yeah it does take awhile to load :(
x_x can't wait till I can level up again lol, really need to get faith/attunement up so I can use those spells D:
you ever try karmic justice? the faith spell oswald sells?
Supposed to be a mix of 100% proccing magiwari and counterstance in ffxi terms, looks spiffy as hell lol
Nah ._. never tried it before :| then again never really looked at it either lol
By volkom 2013-05-07 17:16:21
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volkom said: »
damn you ina for posting that dark souls video a few pages back.
i almost cried during half of them T_T
that guy's voice is annoying though. For example quelaag's sister repeatedly says "my dear sister quelaag" and yet the guy still pronounces "quelaag" completely wrong, not even listening to the way the game pronounces game terms lol
yeah i guess. I watched the rest of his videos. Its pretty fascinating of how much is discovered about the game and stuff.
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