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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-02-28 21:45:26
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Valefor.Prothescar said: »Nvidia or amd? which has less compatibility problems? what else should be be concerned with when looking this stuff up? :<
for what? both have their share of strengths and weaknesses, AMD usually being cheaper for a small cut in performance, and nVidia's drivers are usually better supported (not so the case as much recently though). THIS FEEL!
SO MUCH THIS FEEL!
they've gone too far down the "major updates for one game that aren't really that amazing" path as of late instead of sweeping adjustments and bug fixes imo. granted it's not just their fault, the developers need to do their part too. would have likes some driver optimization for gw2 which never got any sort of major performance boost. there's no reason my rig should stutter at any time in that game. Yeah :/
And to add on to what you said about the 660ti, if that seems harsh I say look at the 7850. for $220 it's pretty powerful little card.
Edit: I mentioned the 7850 a few post up, wanted to look up the price to give a comparison.
Yeah 7850 is good for its price point. Would like to mention also that 660tis tends to OC a lot better than 7850s.
Graph showing rough performance for most current GPUs:
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-02-28 21:45:30
Vyre, that feels like Romantic literature, to me. I must read it all. That and I've never read The Call of Cthulu, either. Man, the books are stacking up! I'll have to wait until class is over, though. Old/Middle or GTFO! Thems fighting words!

Bring it, son! 
If it is fisty cuffs you want good sir,
Then I sir Chaucer will duly oblige. I Kant allow you to do that, kind sir.

Really? I'd make a sexist joke about how my era kept women uneducated and in the kitchen, but then Chaucer would roll over in his grave since he worked so hard to give women a real voice in CT....
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-02-28 21:47:19
That's very progressive of him, but uggggghhhhhh....
Canterbury Tales is right down there with Heart of Darkness, cats and rice.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-02-28 21:47:33
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Valefor.Prothescar said: »Valefor.Prothescar said: »Nvidia or amd? which has less compatibility problems? what else should be be concerned with when looking this stuff up? :<
for what? both have their share of strengths and weaknesses, AMD usually being cheaper for a small cut in performance, and nVidia's drivers are usually better supported (not so the case as much recently though). THIS FEEL!
SO MUCH THIS FEEL!
they've gone too far down the "major updates for one game that aren't really that amazing" path as of late instead of sweeping adjustments and bug fixes imo. granted it's not just their fault, the developers need to do their part too. would have likes some driver optimization for gw2 which never got any sort of major performance boost. there's no reason my rig should stutter at any time in that game. Yeah :/
And to add on to what you said about the 660ti, if that seems harsh I say look at the 7850. for $220 it's pretty powerful little card.
Edit: I mentioned the 7850 a few post up, wanted to look up the price to give a comparison.
Yeah 7850 is good for its price point. Would like to mention also that 660tis tends to OC a lot better than 7850s.
Graph showing rough performance for most current GPUs:
yeah, but the average gamer doesn't take time to OC so I figured that was a non-factor.
But yeah it more or less boils down to how much you value $80 for a boost to performance.
Both cards will do the job no doubt.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2013-02-28 21:48:51
Boom! Sure, Bronte was alive during the Victorian era, but WH was as Romantic as it got. Check, match... win.
Other than Heathcliff turning into a bitter, old ***, yeah. I'd probably haunt his *** too if I was Catherine. Too bad I'm one letter off.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-02-28 21:49:28
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Valefor.Prothescar said: »Valefor.Prothescar said: »Nvidia or amd? which has less compatibility problems? what else should be be concerned with when looking this stuff up? :<
for what? both have their share of strengths and weaknesses, AMD usually being cheaper for a small cut in performance, and nVidia's drivers are usually better supported (not so the case as much recently though). THIS FEEL!
SO MUCH THIS FEEL!
they've gone too far down the "major updates for one game that aren't really that amazing" path as of late instead of sweeping adjustments and bug fixes imo. granted it's not just their fault, the developers need to do their part too. would have likes some driver optimization for gw2 which never got any sort of major performance boost. there's no reason my rig should stutter at any time in that game. Yeah :/
And to add on to what you said about the 660ti, if that seems harsh I say look at the 7850. for $220 it's pretty powerful little card.
Edit: I mentioned the 7850 a few post up, wanted to look up the price to give a comparison.
Yeah 7850 is good for its price point. Would like to mention also that 660tis tends to OC a lot better than 7850s.
Graph showing rough performance for most current GPUs:
yeah, but the average gamer doesn't take time to OC so I figured that was a non-factor.
But yeah it more or less boils down to how much you value $80 for a boost to performance.
Both cards will do the job no doubt.
Meh I try to get everyone to OC their GPUs. It's much less annoying/time expensive to do compared to a CPU OC. Just load up EVGA precision or MSI afterburner and you've done 60% of the work. Kepler GPUs can be a bit more annoying if you want maximum performance, but even increasing your boost by 40MHz is some free performance for moving a slider.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-02-28 21:49:59
That's very progressive of him, but uggggghhhhhh....
Canterbury Tales is right down there with Heart of Darkness, cats and rice. CT is arguably the best incomplete work...ever!
It isn't remotely as bad as HoD or cats, you take that back sir!
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-02-28 21:50:37
Boom! Sure, Bronte was alive during the Victorian era, but WH was as Romantic as it got. Check, match... win.
Other than Heathcliff turning into a bitter, old ***, yeah. I'd probably haunt his *** too if I was Catherine. Too bad I'm one letter off. Oh, that's not what I meant by Romantic. Not romance as in love as we think it means nowadays, but the literary sense. Usually it refers to gothic style, darkness, melancholy, the mystique and the sublime vs. the beautiful. I can't stand that people think that WH is a love story.
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By Bismarck.Leonkasai 2013-02-28 21:51:18
Uuuughh... Underwhelming mission was underwhelming... So, later in the Klingon War missions, you have to destroy the Doomsday Machine (or 'planet killer') from the original Star Trek series, and I was expecting something challenging, what with it being a giant weapon capable of destroying planets and all, but all it takes is 5 special torpedoes (which you're handed for the mission anyway) to kill it...
Oh well... Next up is 'City on the Edge of Never', in which I am to meet up with the USS Kirk~
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By Bismarck.Misao 2013-02-28 21:51:19
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By Shiva.Arana 2013-02-28 21:51:31
Where would you rank a GeForce GT 650M on that list?
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-02-28 21:51:46
That's very progressive of him, but uggggghhhhhh....
Canterbury Tales is right down there with Heart of Darkness, cats and rice. CT is arguably the best incomplete work...ever!
It isn't remotely as bad as HoD or cats, you take that back sir! Dammit, I don't need a fleet of Anglo-Saxons on my ***. All my guys are too busy drowning their sorrows in opium.
It's better than HoD and cats. But not by much!
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2013-02-28 21:52:09
Boom! Sure, Bronte was alive during the Victorian era, but WH was as Romantic as it got. Check, match... win.
Other than Heathcliff turning into a bitter, old ***, yeah. I'd probably haunt his *** too if I was Catherine. Too bad I'm one letter off. Oh, that's what I meant by Romantic. Not romance as in love as we think it means nowadays, but the literary sense. Usually it refers to gothic style, darkness, melancholy, the mystique and the sublime vs. the beautiful. I can't stand that people think that WH is a love story.
Totally missed that. I'm feeling weird today. Not all there ATM.
EDIT: The Pop-Tart cat is back!
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-02-28 21:52:42
Boom! Sure, Bronte was alive during the Victorian era, but WH was as Romantic as it got. Check, match... win.
Other than Heathcliff turning into a bitter, old ***, yeah. I'd probably haunt his *** too if I was Catherine. Too bad I'm one letter off. Oh, that's what I meant by Romantic. Not romance as in love as we think it means nowadays, but the literary sense. Usually it refers to gothic style, darkness, melancholy, the mystique and the sublime vs. the beautiful. I can't stand that people think that WH is a love story. HoD may be ~70 years late but I'll be damned if that doesn't describe that text perfectly....
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-02-28 21:52:43
Misa I shouldn't have ever showed you how to do that :<
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By Bismarck.Misao 2013-02-28 21:53:06
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-02-28 21:53:27
That's very progressive of him, but uggggghhhhhh....
Canterbury Tales is right down there with Heart of Darkness, cats and rice. CT is arguably the best incomplete work...ever!
It isn't remotely as bad as HoD or cats, you take that back sir! Dammit, I don't need a fleet of Anglo-Saxons on my ***. All my guys are too busy drowning their sorrows in opium.
It's better than HoD and cats. But not by much! My badass demon/dragon slaying vikings/knights would own your sissy *** emo characters!
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-02-28 21:53:47
Random nyan cat floating on my screen ftw
Where would you rank a GeForce GT 650M on that list?
Well below pretty much any GPU in that graph.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+650M
By eagleeyes 2013-02-28 21:53:49
Nvidia typically does better in most situations with driver support, performance wise they about the same also unless all you do is wank to benchmark scores. AMD is a mix bag, single card they're fine, multi gpu support is where things can get iffy with them, especially with new release titles.
chart is misleading, it compares a mobile gpu to desktop
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-02-28 21:53:54
Boom! Sure, Bronte was alive during the Victorian era, but WH was as Romantic as it got. Check, match... win.
Other than Heathcliff turning into a bitter, old ***, yeah. I'd probably haunt his *** too if I was Catherine. Too bad I'm one letter off. Oh, that's what I meant by Romantic. Not romance as in love as we think it means nowadays, but the literary sense. Usually it refers to gothic style, darkness, melancholy, the mystique and the sublime vs. the beautiful. I can't stand that people think that WH is a love story.
Totally missed that. I'm feeling weird today. Not all there ATM.
EDIT: The Pop-Tart cat is back! Baby related, mayhaps?
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-02-28 21:54:35
That being said though, mobile GPU's and desktop GPU's really should never be compared....
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-02-28 21:55:27
That's very progressive of him, but uggggghhhhhh....
Canterbury Tales is right down there with Heart of Darkness, cats and rice. CT is arguably the best incomplete work...ever!
It isn't remotely as bad as HoD or cats, you take that back sir! Dammit, I don't need a fleet of Anglo-Saxons on my ***. All my guys are too busy drowning their sorrows in opium.
It's better than HoD and cats. But not by much! My badass demon/dragon slaying vikings/knights would own your sissy *** emo characters! Well, we do have Poe... Maybe we could put his melon in a catapult and knock out a wave or two of your vikings.
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By Shiva.Arana 2013-02-28 21:55:41
Well damn thought I was doing ok with this card. :/
Got a 5k on the FFxiv benchmark.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-02-28 21:55:54
He said on that list, so that's what I gave him! Even in the world of mobile cards, 650m is pretty poor, but it isn't easy to get much better
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By Asura.Vyre 2013-02-28 21:56:01
Boom! Sure, Bronte was alive during the Victorian era, but WH was as Romantic as it got. Check, match... win.
Other than Heathcliff turning into a bitter, old ***, yeah. I'd probably haunt his *** too if I was Catherine. Too bad I'm one letter off. Oh, that's what I meant by Romantic. Not romance as in love as we think it means nowadays, but the literary sense. Usually it refers to gothic style, darkness, melancholy, the mystique and the sublime vs. the beautiful. I can't stand that people think that WH is a love story. HoD may be ~70 years late but I'll be damned if that doesn't describe that text perfectly.... I really prefer the movie parody of HoD. You know... Cannibal Women of the Avacado Jungle of Death.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-02-28 21:56:02
That's very progressive of him, but uggggghhhhhh....
Canterbury Tales is right down there with Heart of Darkness, cats and rice. CT is arguably the best incomplete work...ever!
It isn't remotely as bad as HoD or cats, you take that back sir! Dammit, I don't need a fleet of Anglo-Saxons on my ***. All my guys are too busy drowning their sorrows in opium.
It's better than HoD and cats. But not by much! My badass demon/dragon slaying vikings/knights would own your sissy *** emo characters! Well, we do have Poe... Maybe we could put his melon in a catapult and knock out a wave or two of your vikings. They'd go to try and kill Poe and he'd randomly start confessing a crime and freak the hell outta my vikings D:
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-02-28 21:57:17
Valefor.Prothescar said: »He said on that list, so that's what I gave him! Even in the world of mobile cards, 650m is pretty poor, but it isn't easy to get much better Yeah, but in the world of mobile GPU's you're gonna be spending big money to get something decent. ~1k + to even get something alright.
/not fond of mobile gaming
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-02-28 21:57:55
I really prefer the movie parody of HoD. You know... Cannibal Women of the Avacado Jungle of Death. I still need to see that.
They'd go to try and kill Poe and he'd randomly start confessing a crime and freak the hell outta my vikings D: Seriously though, don't watch The Raven. If you have any respect left for Poe, don't do it.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-02-28 21:57:56
Valefor.Prothescar said: »He said on that list, so that's what I gave him! Even in the world of mobile cards, 650m is pretty poor, but it isn't easy to get much better Yeah, but in the world of mobile GPU's you're gonna be spending big money to get something decent. ~1k + to even get something alright.
/not fond of mobile gaming
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
mobile cards list, recent enough. unless you move around a lot i'd always suggest building a desktop
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This is a thread that I found on another website I post at. It can be really really interesting. I thought it deserved a place here.
Post your random thoughts for the day here, or anything else that intrigues you.
For starters, is it possible to give constructive critism to someone who doesn't have a neck? I totally just walked by a girl who didn't. Someone isn't getting a necklace for Valentines day!
And who decided black and white can't be colors? I want to say a racist. I really do.
Inb4thisthreadgetsreallywtf
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