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Random Thoughts.....What are you thinking?
Ramuh.Urial
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-02-27 19:48:17
>_>
But just think Spath!
We can do this!
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We just need an electric guitarist when we get decent enough!
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By Sylph.Spency 2013-02-27 19:49:19
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-02-27 19:50:00
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-02-27 20:03:52
I did this to my teacher's kid (she was visiting class one day) and she started crying >.>
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2013-02-27 20:08:39
>_>
But just think Spath!
We can do this!
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We just need an electric guitarist when we get decent enough! Yes, yes we can. I start practice within the next two weeks... I shall enjoy this greatly.
Ramuh.Urial
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-02-27 20:10:00
>_>
But just think Spath!
We can do this!
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We just need an electric guitarist when we get decent enough! Yes, yes we can. I start practice within the next two weeks... I shall enjoy this greatly. In like a year or two we can totally do this!
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2013-02-27 20:11:14
Pfft, I'll be ready in two months! I GOT THIS!
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2013-02-27 20:11:45
nothing to do................ :(
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-02-27 20:13:02
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2013-02-27 20:14:54
I wonder if he had to pull out the bright red pen...
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-02-27 20:16:03
I wonder if he had to pull out the bright red pen... I did earlier today. I actually have one!
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2013-02-27 20:18:23
I wonder if he had to pull out the bright red pen... I did earlier today. I actually have one! You're an awesome teacher then. XP
I'm sorry but I hated all the teachers who tried to apologize to me for making any kind of mark on my paper. Not to mention the ones who would use a different color because, and this is a direct quote, "I think the red may be far too harsh and hurt your feelings." -.-;
I made a damn mistake. I want to know where it is, what it is, and how I can fix it. My feelings are not going to be hurt by a simple critique meant to better my work.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-02-27 20:19:38
z.z
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2013-02-27 20:21:22
Perhaps you need to sleep? :x
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-02-27 20:26:54
I wonder if he had to pull out the bright red pen... I did earlier today. I actually have one! You're an awesome teacher then. XP
I'm sorry but I hated all the teachers who tried to apologize to me for making any kind of mark on my paper. Not to mention the ones who would use a different color because, and this is a direct quote, "I think the red may be far too harsh and hurt your feelings." -.-;
I made a damn mistake. I want to know where it is, what it is, and how I can fix it. My feelings are not going to be hurt by a simple critique meant to better my work. I could have used you the past few days when my ENG 480 class was talking about teacher conferences. They were telling us that we shouldn't even make note of mechanics and conventions and instead focus on content. Don't get me wrong, they're right to a point. The content is what matters in a paper, not how they write it. That being said, mechanics and conventions are important and if I don't bother making some slight mark about it, then many of the students are just going to assume that they don't need to worry about those errors, and in my class it won't make much of a difference, but if they continue with that thought process in college, they won't last long. I know, it's kind of a slippery slope, but I'd rather nip it in the bud immediately. The reason is apparently if we correct those mistakes, the students will allegedly focus on nothing but them, and therefore assume they are total failures, and I can't help but poke into that logic. I'm a teacher, not their parent. To a point, I'm not supposed to coddle them, especially if I'm dealing with high school students. This was the argument I made in the discussion board due this past Tuesday:
This week’s readings all have roots in conferencing with students to assist them to get the best possible work out of their writing. With many things in life, this can be rather ambiguous, and at a certain point a line will be crossed where one is no longer helping a student burgeon as a writer and instead tips towards essentially writing for the student. Such was the case with Tom Romano thusly, “The closer Dawn’s poem came to completion, the more directive I came in my comments and questions,” (p 99). Romano did well throughout most of the conferencing, but that moment he crossed the threshold into direction, he already did harm to Dawn’s paper. This concept is akin to a balancing wire walker; tip too much one way, and the whole thing plummets.
Another point Romano makes (to which, Fletcher and Portalupi concur) is that there needs to be open conferencing sans correction. Romano in fact explicitly stated, “Teachers should not take those drafts and mark errors, point out fallacies, critique severely, and then present students with the results. Such practice should be steadfastly avoided. It can only intimidate, disillusion, and overwhelm the writers,” (p 89). This goes hand in hand with Fletcher and Portalupi’s comment, “The best way to defuse them is by projecting an encouraging, appreciative attitude. Try to be there as a reader before you’re there as a corrector. You’ve got the entire year to help them polish their writing and refine their technique,” (p 39). With both of these points, I would tend to agree for the most part. However, especially in a high school setting, these corrections need to be made. Perhaps not right away, but one thing I’ve run into while I do my interning is that if you don’t correct a student on a mistake immediately, he/she will assume that it doesn’t need correction or that there is no mistake to begin with. Therefore I would argue that although strict correction is not necessary for these students, an indication for those students to make a correction to the mistake by simply pointing one out discretely at the end of comments made about the context of the writing will give that student the encouragement to continue unabatedly and correct when he/she chooses necessary. This an be achieved by an indicator such as a slight checkmark by a mistake, to which the teacher and student can go back to when regarding mechanics in the work.
It's a long read, sorry.
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Ramuh.Urial
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-02-27 20:27:14
Wasn't that bad. The usual "L2comma" stuff. And yeah Mag I could have gone on for many more pages but this paper was geared to appeal th the person grading it >_>
Thus I ended it loosely in a question.
That's what this professor likes and he admits that to this day he can still not answer many of Milton's questions.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-02-27 20:30:50
Wasn't that bad. The usual "L2comma" stuff. And yeah Mag I could have gone on for many more pages but this paper was geared to appeal th the person grading it >_>
Thus I ended it loosely in a question.
That's what this professor likes and he admits that to this day he can still not answer many of Milton's questions. I figured that was the reason behind it. Like I said, you could go on infinitely, and you definitely have the textual evidence to make a larger argument. For what was available though, you were spot on.
Ramuh.Urial
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-02-27 20:35:43
Wasn't that bad. The usual "L2comma" stuff. And yeah Mag I could have gone on for many more pages but this paper was geared to appeal th the person grading it >_>
Thus I ended it loosely in a question.
That's what this professor likes and he admits that to this day he can still not answer many of Milton's questions. I figured that was the reason behind it. Like I said, you could go on infinitely, and you definitely have the textual evidence to make a larger argument. For what was available though, you were spot on. I did go back and add in the "Make a Heaven of hell, a Hell of Heaven" quote where you said I could ad some from book 1/2 though. It seemed quite fitting there.
Also I have creative writing with him next quarter so you'll probably get to see a variety of poems in the future.
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Bismarck.Magnuss
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-02-27 20:38:32
you'll probably get to see a variety of poems in the future.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xaxial 2013-02-27 20:44:05
Today is my commands celebration of black history month. We are having a pot luck party for it too. Go figure someone would bring fried chicken, watermelon, and grape soda to it.....
racist *** lol.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-02-27 20:45:15
Quetzalcoatl.Xaxial said: »Today is my commands celebration of black history month. We are having a pot luck party for it too. Go figure someone would bring fried chicken, watermelon, and grape soda to it.....
racist *** lol. One could make the argument that Black History Month is racist as well, but we won't go into that.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-02-27 20:53:13
You all knew this was coming
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2013-02-27 20:53:20
I could have used you the past few days when my ENG 480 class was talking about teacher conferences. They were telling us that we shouldn't even make note of mechanics and conventions and instead focus on content. Don't get me wrong, they're right to a point. The content is what matters in a paper, not how they write it. That being said, mechanics and conventions are important and if I don't bother making some slight mark about it, then many of the students are just going to assume that they don't need to worry about those errors, and in my class it won't make much of a difference, but if they continue with that thought process in college, they won't last long. I know, it's kind of a slippery slope, but I'd rather nip it in the bud immediately. The reason is apparently if we correct those mistakes, the students will allegedly focus on nothing but them, and therefore assume they are total failures, and I can't help but poke into that logic. I'm a teacher, not their parent. To a point, I'm not supposed to coddle them, especially if I'm dealing with high school students. This was the argument I made in the discussion board due this past Tuesday:
This week’s readings all have roots in conferencing with students to assist them to get the best possible work out of their writing. With many things in life, this can be rather ambiguous, and at a certain point a line will be crossed where one is no longer helping a student burgeon as a writer and instead tips towards essentially writing for the student. Such was the case with Tom Romano thusly, “The closer Dawn’s poem came to completion, the more directive I came in my comments and questions,” (p 99). Romano did well throughout most of the conferencing, but that moment he crossed the threshold into direction, he already did harm to Dawn’s paper. This concept is akin to a balancing wire walker; tip too much one way, and the whole thing plummets.
Another point Romano makes (to which, Fletcher and Portalupi concur) is that there needs to be open conferencing sans correction. Romano in fact explicitly stated, “Teachers should not take those drafts and mark errors, point out fallacies, critique severely, and then present students with the results. Such practice should be steadfastly avoided. It can only intimidate, disillusion, and overwhelm the writers,” (p 89). This goes hand in hand with Fletcher and Portalupi’s comment, “The best way to defuse them is by projecting an encouraging, appreciative attitude. Try to be there as a reader before you’re there as a corrector. You’ve got the entire year to help them polish their writing and refine their technique,” (p 39). With both of these points, I would tend to agree for the most part. However, especially in a high school setting, these corrections need to be made. Perhaps not right away, but one thing I’ve run into while I do my interning is that if you don’t correct a student on a mistake immediately, he/she will assume that it doesn’t need correction or that there is no mistake to begin with. Therefore I would argue that although strict correction is not necessary for these students, an indication for those students to make a correction to the mistake by simply pointing one out discretely at the end of comments made about the context of the writing will give that student the encouragement to continue unabatedly and correct when he/she chooses necessary. This an be achieved by an indicator such as a slight checkmark by a mistake, to which the teacher and student can go back to when regarding mechanics in the work.
It's a long read, sorry. Not long at all, good sir. I agree with it all. If I could have been there for the class I would have gladly put in my hat for you. XP
One could make the argument that Black History Month is racist as well, but we won't go into that. I still loved it when Morgan Freeman said it.
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Sylph.Spency
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By Sylph.Spency 2013-02-27 20:54:16
I agree, I believe Black History Month just perpetuates the idea that we are different.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-02-27 20:55:07
That's exactly what I was referring to. Dammit all, I've never agreed with him more than that moment.
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Sylph.Spency
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By Sylph.Spency 2013-02-27 20:56:04
We should judge people based on their occupation!
Ain't that right, Jan Itor!?
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-02-27 20:56:15
Yeah Spence has a good point
Dammit Spence
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2013-02-27 20:57:16
We should judge people based on their occupation!
Ain't that right, Jan Itor!? Pfft, the obvious solution is to judge people on how well they play a video game!
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By Sylph.Spency 2013-02-27 20:58:02
In this world, is wealth based on the accumulation of LOL pics?
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-02-27 20:58:39
We should judge people based on their occupation!
Ain't that right, Jan Itor!? That's Doctor Jan itor.
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This is a thread that I found on another website I post at. It can be really really interesting. I thought it deserved a place here.
Post your random thoughts for the day here, or anything else that intrigues you.
For starters, is it possible to give constructive critism to someone who doesn't have a neck? I totally just walked by a girl who didn't. Someone isn't getting a necklace for Valentines day!
And who decided black and white can't be colors? I want to say a racist. I really do.
Inb4thisthreadgetsreallywtf
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