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By Serj 2011-01-25 23:53:37
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i only read the first page...but serious who freaking thought it had 35% real beef?.... i dont care if its ground up ketchup packets(or mild sauce packets in this case). that ***is cheap and it keeps me from starving in a pinch. aint nobody holding a gun ur head forcing it down ur throat...


Viva le Taco Bell! Viva le Taco Bell! Viva le Taco Bell! Viva le Taco Bell!

You. Be. Dumb.

Thank you for your insightful input, Elana.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-25 23:57:39
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/sigh

Seriously, You *** ***? You're gonna take away the awesome $.89 tacos from us by forcing taco bell to use better grade meat?

Seriously, you *** ***? You're gonna take away the awesomeness of not worrying about what to eat with only $3 in your pocket while tomorrow is pay-day?

Seriously, you *** asswipes? You're gonna take away another good *** place from us fat people because YOU WANT TO RUN OUR LIVES?

You expect premium beef from taco bell? You, sir and madam, are *** dumbasses.
Did you even read the article? They want truth in advertising, not higher quality meat.

I don't think they want truth in advertising. I think they want some of that dirty taco money.
What's how I read it.

It's all just a ploy to steal money.

besides, Taco Bell doesn't claim it's 100% Beef, it just says Beef.
sorry but they do

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"At Taco Bell, we buy our beef from the same trusted brands you find in the supermarket," Creed said. "We start with 100 percent USDA-inspected beef. Then we simmer it in our proprietary blend of seasonings and spices to give our seasoned beef its signature Taco Bell taste and texture."
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By Serj 2011-01-25 23:59:32
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Cerberus.Kalyna said:
Wombat said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Cerberus.Kalyna said:
/sigh

Seriously, You *** ***? You're gonna take away the awesome $.89 tacos from us by forcing taco bell to use better grade meat?

Seriously, you *** ***? You're gonna take away the awesomeness of not worrying about what to eat with only $3 in your pocket while tomorrow is pay-day?

Seriously, you *** asswipes? You're gonna take away another good *** place from us fat people because YOU WANT TO RUN OUR LIVES?

You expect premium beef from taco bell? You, sir and madam, are *** dumbasses.
Did you even read the article? They want truth in advertising, not higher quality meat.

I don't think they want truth in advertising. I think they want some of that dirty taco money.
What's how I read it.

It's all just a ploy to steal money.

besides, Taco Bell doesn't claim it's 100% Beef, it just says Beef.
sorry but they do

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"At Taco Bell, we buy our beef from the same trusted brands you find in the supermarket," Creed said. "We start with 100 percent USDA-inspected beef. Then we simmer it in our proprietary blend of seasonings and spices to give our seasoned beef its signature Taco Bell taste and texture."

They just say the beef they use is 100% inspected beef. Meaning only the beef used is beef. Not that the mixture is 100% beef, which is what is being argued to a lesser degree (using 35% instead of 40% or something like that).
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-26 00:01:10
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Serj said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Cerberus.Kalyna said:
Wombat said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Cerberus.Kalyna said:
/sigh

Seriously, You *** ***? You're gonna take away the awesome $.89 tacos from us by forcing taco bell to use better grade meat?

Seriously, you *** ***? You're gonna take away the awesomeness of not worrying about what to eat with only $3 in your pocket while tomorrow is pay-day?

Seriously, you *** asswipes? You're gonna take away another good *** place from us fat people because YOU WANT TO RUN OUR LIVES?

You expect premium beef from taco bell? You, sir and madam, are *** dumbasses.
Did you even read the article? They want truth in advertising, not higher quality meat.

I don't think they want truth in advertising. I think they want some of that dirty taco money.
What's how I read it.

It's all just a ploy to steal money.

besides, Taco Bell doesn't claim it's 100% Beef, it just says Beef.
sorry but they do

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"At Taco Bell, we buy our beef from the same trusted brands you find in the supermarket," Creed said. "We start with 100 percent USDA-inspected beef. Then we simmer it in our proprietary blend of seasonings and spices to give our seasoned beef its signature Taco Bell taste and texture."

They just say the beef they use is 100% inspected beef. Meaning only the beef used is beef. Not that the mixture is 100% beef, which is what is being argued to a lesser degree (using 35% instead of 40% or something like that).

yeah sure, they use 65% flavoring, whatever...
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-01-26 00:01:57
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By Siren.Enternius 2011-01-26 00:02:23
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65% is the tortilla, cheese, and vegetables.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2011-01-26 06:06:20
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Quetzalcoatl.Opehlia said:
i only read the first page...but serious who freaking thought it had 35% real beef?.... i dont care if its ground up ketchup packets(or mild sauce packets in this case). that ***is cheap and it keeps me from starving in a pinch. aint nobody holding a gun ur head forcing it down ur throat...


Viva le Taco Bell! Viva le Taco Bell! Viva le Taco Bell! Viva le Taco Bell!
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-01-26 06:10:09
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This news is almost exciting as watching paint dry.

Never mind this can't beat watching paint dry, fun times.
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By Leviathan.Gobs 2011-01-26 07:05:36
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Attorneys question whether what Taco Bell calls ‘beef’ is actually beef

By Brett Michael Dykes brett Michael Dykes – Tue Jan 25, 1:04 pm ET

The late-night crowd knows all too well the allure of Taco Bell's piping-hot creations. But is it really ground beef they're putting in that beef meximelt?

That's the question at the heart of a lawsuit filed recently by the Montgomery, Alabama-based law firm Beasley Allen.

The standard for what constitutes beef as defined by the USDA is pretty straightforward: "flesh of animals." In the "Food Facts" section of its website, Taco Bell says the following about its beef: "Our taco meat is made from USDA-inspected beef and is subjected to quality check points. It tastes great because it's simmered in 12 authentic seasonings and spices and is never frozen. Moreover, our taco meat is leaner than what you'll find in a restaurant-cooked hamburger because of the unique way that we prepare our taco meat and remove fat." But Beasley Allen contends that the company's claims are untrue.

"Rather than beef, these food items are actually made with a substance known as 'taco meat filling,' " the lawsuit says. The firm contends that that Taco Bell shouldn't market the taco meat filling in question as beef because their testing shows that it only contains 36 percent ground beef. If that's true, Taco Bell's meat filling product would fall below the already generous USDA standard for it to qualify as meat -- the present standard demands it consist of at least 40 percent meat. This inspired Gizmodo's Jesus Diaz to crack, "Perhaps they should call it 'Almost Taco Meat Filling.'"

The remainder of the Taco Bell's meat filling product consists of "extenders" like water, "Isolated Oat Product," wheat oats, maltodrextrin, soy lecithin, maltodrextrin, anti-dusting agent, autolyzed yeast extract, modified corn starch, sodium phosphate and silicon dioxide.

Taco Bell actually addresses its use if silicon dioxide in the "Food Facts" section of its website under the question, "I heard a rumor that there's sand in your taco meat?" It then goes on to explain that silicone dioxide is "a safe, common food ingredient" that's "primarily used in food to prevent ingredients from sticking together."

In response, Taco Bell has issued a statement insisting that the suit is unfounded: "Taco Bell prides itself on serving high quality Mexican inspired food with great value. We're happy that the millions of customers we serve every week agree. We deny our advertising is misleading in any way and we intend to vigorously defend the suit."

In any event, the lawsuit's appetite-squelching accusations are likely to provide plenty of unadulterated fodder for late night comedians. "Late Show with David Letterman" head writer Eric Stangel was already making Taco Bell jokes on his Twitter page this morning, cracking that because of the lawsuit we're all finally "about to find out where the Taco Bell Chihuahua went."


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UPDATE: Taco Bell President and Chief Concept Officer Greg Creed contacted The Lookout with a strongly worded amended corporate response to the lawsuit:

At Taco Bell, we buy our beef from the same trusted brands you find in the supermarket, like Tyson Foods. We start with 100 percent USDA-inspected beef. Then we simmer it in our proprietary blend of seasonings and spices to give our seasoned beef its signature Taco Bell taste and texture. We are proud of the quality of our beef and identify all the seasoning and spice ingredients on our website. Unfortunately, the lawyers in this case elected to sue first and ask questions later -- and got their "facts" absolutely wrong. We plan to take legal action for the false statements being made about our food.
 
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2011-01-26 07:14:47
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Caitsith.Kilorilo said:
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If it was the government looking into it then I would be interested.

This is just another lawsuit....

Entire point is invalid... all about them $$$



lawsuits should be taken away...and lawyers as well....

From what I read, they only want honesty in Taco Bells ads...

"The lawsuit filed on behalf of Taco Bell customer and California resident Amanda Obney does not seek monetary damages, but asks the court to order Taco Bell to be honest in its advertising."
and people want Santa Clause to move to FL. They're people, and of course it will always be about the money.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-01-26 08:02:36
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Look at what kind of ads you guys are causing:



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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-01-26 10:50:43
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According to Taco Bell's website, these are the ingredients in their "seasoned beef":
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Beef, Water, Seasoning [Isolated Oat Product, Salt, Chili Pepper, Onion Powder, Tomato Powder, Oats (Wheat), Soy Lecithin, Sugar, Spices, Maltodextrin, Soybean Oil (Anti-dusting Agent), Garlic Powder, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Citric Acid, Caramel Color, Cocoa Powder (Processed With Alkali), Silicon Dioxide, Natural Flavors, Yeast, Modified Corn Starch, Natural Smoke Flavor], Salt, Sodium Phosphates.

While most of these ingredients are inane and not unusual, the point of the lawsuit is NOT to bash the unhealthy characteristics of Taco Bell's beef products. As mentioned earlier in this thread, it's common knowledge that eating Taco Bell beef isn't a healthy/responsible choice. That's not in question.

The lawsuit is challenging the legality of advertising their taco meat as "seasoned beef", when it (reportedly) does not meet the minimum USDA requirements for being labeled "beef".

Still don't understand?
Put it this way:
One could be serving fresh-cut USDA Prime Filet Mignon ground up in taco meat ... but if the resulting meat mixture (meaning beef+fillers+seasoning+garbage; NOT the lettuce/tomatoes/tortilla/salsa/etc.) is only 35% cow, then one can not label the resulting mixture as "beef".

By labeling/marketing their meat mixture as "beef", Taco Bell may be misleading its consumers, and gaining an unfair advantage over its competitors. That's what's at stake in this lawsuit.

I love how some commentary in this thread has devolved into "I love Taco Bell, don't take away my Taco Bell!", as if Taco Bell represents a cherished plush teddy-bear from your childhood.
This lawsuit doesn't aim to "take away" Taco Bell.
It aims to coerce Taco Bell into truthfully advertise what they are peddling, in accordance with (very lenient) USDA standards/definitions of "beef".
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-01-26 10:53:31
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I always order my Taco Bell food with chicken anyway. Their beef tastes nasty. Grilled Stuffed Burrito FTW!
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-01-26 10:54:17
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Bout to get me some taco bell right now
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By Wombat 2011-01-26 10:56:47
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Bout to get me some taco bell right now

I haven't eaten Taco Bell in months, but this thread has me craving a cheesy gordita crunch and/or a chicken quesadilla
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By Asura.Revelation 2011-01-26 10:58:16
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Wombat said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Bout to get me some taco bell right now
I haven't eaten Taco Bell in months, but this thread has me craving a cheesy gordita crunch and/or a chicken quesadilla

The exact things I almost always eat there... f'ing win
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-01-26 10:59:42
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Idk what I want to get :(
 
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-01-26 11:01:58
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Where do you live that the closest Bell is 500 miles away? :o
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2011-01-26 11:11:47
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Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Where do you live that the closest Bell is 500 miles away? :o
Canada. :P
 
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-01-26 11:27:39
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My question to those on the defensive side of the bell.
If a ruling such is this forced taco bell to put a more appropriate amount of meat in their food would that upset you in any way?
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-01-26 11:29:03
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I have no problems with any fast food company forced to improve the quality of their food.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou 2011-01-26 12:12:11
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Leviathan.Gobs said:
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In response, Taco Bell has issued a statement insisting that the suit is unfounded: "Taco Bell prides itself on serving high quality Mexican inspired food ...

I lol'd. So hard. I can just see the exec writing that response from his fancy office, on the 30th floor of the Taco Bell headquarters, downtown in some major city, and then taking a break halfway through to eat a gourmet plate of Volcano Burrito, Cinnamon Twists and Dr. Pepper, with garnishes and china and crystal glasses and presented to him by his own private chef.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2011-01-26 12:21:10
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Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou said:
Leviathan.Gobs said:
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In response, Taco Bell has issued a statement insisting that the suit is unfounded: "Taco Bell prides itself on serving high quality Mexican inspired food ...

I lol'd. So hard. I can just see the exec writing that response from his fancy office, on the 30th floor of the Taco Bell headquarters, downtown in some major city, and then taking a break halfway through to eat a gourmet plate of Volcano Burrito, Cinnamon Twists and Dr. Pepper, with garnishes and china and crystal glasses and presented to him by his own private chef.
um, what? Taco Bell is low-quality food that converts into high-quality gas and projectile fuel.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-01-26 12:23:36
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Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou said:
Leviathan.Gobs said:
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In response, Taco Bell has issued a statement insisting that the suit is unfounded: "Taco Bell prides itself on serving high quality Mexican inspired food ...

I lol'd. So hard. I can just see the exec writing that response from his fancy office, on the 30th floor of the Taco Bell headquarters, downtown in some major city, and then taking a break halfway through to eat a gourmet plate of Volcano Burrito, Cinnamon Twists and Dr. Pepper, with garnishes and china and crystal glasses and presented to him by his own private chef.
um, what? Taco Bell is low-quality food that converts into high-quality gas and projectile fuel.
JUST LIKE 4LOKO!
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-01-26 12:30:41
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Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou said:
Leviathan.Gobs said:
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In response, Taco Bell has issued a statement insisting that the suit is unfounded: "Taco Bell prides itself on serving high quality Mexican inspired food ...

I lol'd. So hard. I can just see the exec writing that response from his fancy office, on the 30th floor of the Taco Bell headquarters, downtown in some major city, and then taking a break halfway through to eat a gourmet plate of Volcano Burrito, Cinnamon Twists and Dr. Pepper, with garnishes and china and crystal glasses and presented to him by his own private chef.


Hahaha! No kidding, right?
On what rating scale does Taco Bell food rank as "high quality food"?
I mean, one might like the taste, one might like the fast service .... but high quality food? ... no way, lol.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2011-01-26 12:32:32
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So, if they changed the name, how many people do you think will really stop eating there if they did before? lol

I will still eat it!
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2011-01-26 12:34:12
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Serj said:
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http://consideronline.org/2011/01/25/taco-bell%E2%80%A6-where%E2%80%99s-the-beef/
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Attorney Dee Miles said the meat mixture contained just 35 percent beef, with the remaining 65 percent containing water, wheat oats, soy lecithin, maltodextrin, anti-dusting agent and modified cornstarch.
that's the rest of the 65% of the Seasoned Beef
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
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I used to work for a Taco Bell. From reading both stories, I can safely say the plaintiffs are idiots... They have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. First off, the beef used by Taco Bell comes pre-packaged and pre-cooked with the seasonings and sauce mixed in with the meat (the other various ingredients making up the seasoning and sauce). The packages are then steamed until they're ready to be served. The bulk of those packages are in fact other ingredients besides the meat but the meat is definitely beef. Someone really needs to pull one of these packages out and slap them upside the head with them.
Do you work at the packaging plant preparing this ***? If not how can you really accurately say ***?
Seriously? Are you playing dense to troll or are you really that dense? If you can't tell the difference between beef and sauce/seasoning mixture, you really need not try to make an argument.
so you can tell the difference between meat substitute and meat when it's all mixed together. jesus *** christ microscope eyes you are amazing.
Read ***Vinvv before you troll.
explain ***when you quote and interject. edit; SOY LECTHIN DO YOU KNOW HWAT IT IS? mcdonalds does! they use it so that they don't have to make all beef patties! aka meat substitute. durhurr. comprehend ***before you get all uppity.

Why are you so angry about this? lol...
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