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 Ramuh.Vinvv
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-01-25 20:06:03
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Fairy.Spence said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Fairy.Spence said:
Vinvv just likes to argue over anything. I don't think he really cares.
spence just likes to make comments about how i do things thinking that he has some magical insight.
he really does care to an extent or he wouldn't have cared to post.

Observational insight.
no i was right with magical
magical as in not founded in reality.
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By Serj 2011-01-25 20:06:32
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http://consideronline.org/2011/01/25/taco-bell%E2%80%A6-where%E2%80%99s-the-beef/
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Attorney Dee Miles said the meat mixture contained just 35 percent beef, with the remaining 65 percent containing water, wheat oats, soy lecithin, maltodextrin, anti-dusting agent and modified cornstarch.

that's the rest of the 65% of the Seasoned Beef


Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
I used to work for a Taco Bell. From reading both stories, I can safely say the plaintiffs are idiots... They have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. First off, the beef used by Taco Bell comes pre-packaged and pre-cooked with the seasonings and sauce mixed in with the meat (the other various ingredients making up the seasoning and sauce). The packages are then steamed until they're ready to be served. The bulk of those packages are in fact other ingredients besides the meat but the meat is definitely beef. Someone really needs to pull one of these packages out and slap them upside the head with them.
Do you work at the packaging plant preparing this ***?
If not how can you really accurately say ***?

Seriously? Are you playing dense to troll or are you really that dense? If you can't tell the difference between beef and sauce/seasoning mixture, you really need not try to make an argument.
so you can tell the difference between meat substitute and meat when it's all mixed together.
jesus *** christ microscope eyes you are amazing.


Read ***Vinvv before you troll.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2011-01-25 20:07:05
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if you honestly thought that Taco Bell had actual beef in them burritos, then you need to get your head examined.
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By Sylph.Oddin 2011-01-25 20:07:18
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
I used to work for a Taco Bell. From reading both stories, I can safely say the plaintiffs are idiots... They have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. First off, the beef used by Taco Bell comes pre-packaged and pre-cooked with the seasonings and sauce mixed in with the meat (the other various ingredients making up the seasoning and sauce). The packages are then steamed until they're ready to be served. The bulk of those packages are in fact other ingredients besides the meat but the meat is definitely beef. Someone really needs to pull one of these packages out and slap them upside the head with them.
Do you work at the packaging plant preparing this ***?
If not how can you really accurately say ***?

Seriously? Are you playing dense to troll or are you really that dense? If you can't tell the difference between beef and sauce/seasoning mixture, you really need not try to make an argument.
so you can tell the difference between meat substitute and meat when it's all mixed together.
jesus *** christ microscope eyes you are amazing.

The accuracy comes from the big USDA choice 100% Beef stamped all over the damn packages. I would love to show you the packages but I can't seem to find a picture. As far as it being actual beef, that's what the stamps say so yes you can safely guarantee it's actual beef. Going as far as claiming it's a substitute and the FDA is being paid off is pretty silly in both concept and credibility.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-01-25 20:07:23
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Serj said:
Cerberus.Kalyna said:
http://consideronline.org/2011/01/25/taco-bell%E2%80%A6-where%E2%80%99s-the-beef/
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Attorney Dee Miles said the meat mixture contained just 35 percent beef, with the remaining 65 percent containing water, wheat oats, soy lecithin, maltodextrin, anti-dusting agent and modified cornstarch.

that's the rest of the 65% of the Seasoned Beef


Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
I used to work for a Taco Bell. From reading both stories, I can safely say the plaintiffs are idiots... They have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. First off, the beef used by Taco Bell comes pre-packaged and pre-cooked with the seasonings and sauce mixed in with the meat (the other various ingredients making up the seasoning and sauce). The packages are then steamed until they're ready to be served. The bulk of those packages are in fact other ingredients besides the meat but the meat is definitely beef. Someone really needs to pull one of these packages out and slap them upside the head with them.
Do you work at the packaging plant preparing this ***?
If not how can you really accurately say ***?

Seriously? Are you playing dense to troll or are you really that dense? If you can't tell the difference between beef and sauce/seasoning mixture, you really need not try to make an argument.
so you can tell the difference between meat substitute and meat when it's all mixed together.
jesus *** christ microscope eyes you are amazing.


Read ***Vinvv before you troll.
explain ***when you quote and interject.
edit;
SOY LECTHIN DO YOU KNOW HWAT IT IS?
mcdonalds does!
they use it so that they don't have to make all beef patties!
aka meat substitute.
durhurr.
comprehend ***before you get all uppity.
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By Fairy.Spence 2011-01-25 20:08:10
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Fairy.Spence said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Fairy.Spence said:
Vinvv just likes to argue over anything. I don't think he really cares.
spence just likes to make comments about how i do things thinking that he has some magical insight.
he really does care to an extent or he wouldn't have cared to post.

Observational insight.
no i was right with magical
magical as in not founded in reality.

Okay.
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By Serj 2011-01-25 20:09:13
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Serj said:
Cerberus.Kalyna said:
http://consideronline.org/2011/01/25/taco-bell%E2%80%A6-where%E2%80%99s-the-beef/
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Attorney Dee Miles said the meat mixture contained just 35 percent beef, with the remaining 65 percent containing water, wheat oats, soy lecithin, maltodextrin, anti-dusting agent and modified cornstarch.

that's the rest of the 65% of the Seasoned Beef


Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
I used to work for a Taco Bell. From reading both stories, I can safely say the plaintiffs are idiots... They have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. First off, the beef used by Taco Bell comes pre-packaged and pre-cooked with the seasonings and sauce mixed in with the meat (the other various ingredients making up the seasoning and sauce). The packages are then steamed until they're ready to be served. The bulk of those packages are in fact other ingredients besides the meat but the meat is definitely beef. Someone really needs to pull one of these packages out and slap them upside the head with them.
Do you work at the packaging plant preparing this ***?
If not how can you really accurately say ***?

Seriously? Are you playing dense to troll or are you really that dense? If you can't tell the difference between beef and sauce/seasoning mixture, you really need not try to make an argument.
so you can tell the difference between meat substitute and meat when it's all mixed together.
jesus *** christ microscope eyes you are amazing.


Read ***Vinvv before you troll.
explain ***when you quote and interject.

Read what Oddin is telling you.
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By Cerberus.Nutt 2011-01-25 20:09:43
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Is it possible that USDA can stamp stuff as being 100% beef when in fact it isn't?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-01-25 20:10:10
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The accuracy comes from the big USDA choice 100% Beef stamped all over the damn packages. I would love to show you the packages but I can't seem to find a picture. As far as it being actual beef, that's what the stamps say so yes you can safely guarantee it's actual beef. Going as far as claiming it's a substitute and the FDA is being paid off is pretty silly in both concept and credibility.
photoshop doesn't exist.
but yeah the taco bell you worked at must be the same as every single one lol
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By Serj 2011-01-25 20:10:25
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Jesus, nevermind. Just read what he's *** saying and don't take it the way you want to.
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By Sylph.Oddin 2011-01-25 20:11:52
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Sylph.Oddin said:

The accuracy comes from the big USDA choice 100% Beef stamped all over the damn packages. I would love to show you the packages but I can't seem to find a picture. As far as it being actual beef, that's what the stamps say so yes you can safely guarantee it's actual beef. Going as far as claiming it's a substitute and the FDA is being paid off is pretty silly in both concept and credibility.
photoshop doesn't exist.

You wearing a tin foil hat? Just curious. You have this whole conspiracy theory vibe going on.

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By Serj 2011-01-25 20:12:00
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Cerberus.Nutt said:
Is it possible that USDA can stamp stuff as being 100% beef when in fact it isn't?

Yes, but is it TB's problem then? It's a problem with who's certifying the quality and/or the handler's problem.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-01-25 20:12:07
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Serj said:
Jesus, nevermind. Just read what he's *** saying and don't take it the way you want to.
nice try at trolling me serjio.
i love how you *** are always quick to jump and call me a troll in all situations though.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-01-25 20:13:17
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Sylph.Oddin said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Sylph.Oddin said:

The accuracy comes from the big USDA choice 100% Beef stamped all over the damn packages. I would love to show you the packages but I can't seem to find a picture. As far as it being actual beef, that's what the stamps say so yes you can safely guarantee it's actual beef. Going as far as claiming it's a substitute and the FDA is being paid off is pretty silly in both concept and credibility.
photoshop doesn't exist.

You wearing a tin foil hat? Just curious. You have this whole conspiracy theory vibe going on.

no i don't
you just perceive me to have it because i disagree with your ALMIGHTY INFORMATION FROM HAVING WORKED AT TACO BELL IN ONE PLACE AND ONE TOWN AT ONE POINT IN YOUR LIFE.
ack allcapsed that by accident, leaving it that way.

tl:dr
unless you work at the packing plant that ships to tb or you have the ability to tell the difference between whole beef and beef with substitute your argument has holes in it.

actually.
i used to work at a meat packing plant for taco bell
and they put all this soy ***in the beef.
there now you have proof since someone said it on the internet.
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By Sylph.Oddin 2011-01-25 20:13:37
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You apparently have no idea how franchise restaurants work, do you?
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-01-25 20:13:38
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Sylph.Oddin said:

The accuracy comes from the big USDA choice 100% Beef stamped all over the damn packages. I would love to show you the packages but I can't seem to find a picture. As far as it being actual beef, that's what the stamps say so yes you can safely guarantee it's actual beef. Going as far as claiming it's a substitute and the FDA is being paid off is pretty silly in both concept and credibility.
photoshop doesn't exist.
but yeah the taco bell you worked at must be the same as every single one lol

If thats the case, she could only sue THAT ONE SINGLE taco bell, and not taco bell as a whole.
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By Cerberus.Nutt 2011-01-25 20:15:17
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Serj said:
Cerberus.Nutt said:
Is it possible that USDA can stamp stuff as being 100% beef when in fact it isn't?
Yes, but is it TB's problem then? It's a problem with who's certifying the quality and/or the handler's problem.


Interesting. I wonder if someone who currently works for TB can verify whether the USDA stamp exists or not.

I don't see why Oddin would lie about it.
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By Serj 2011-01-25 20:15:58
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
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Jesus, nevermind. Just read what he's *** saying and don't take it the way you want to.
nice try at trolling me serjio.
i love how you *** are always quick to jump and call me a troll in all situations though.

Oddin said the MEAT is certified to be what is it. They are blaming TB for the MIXTURE for it's percentages. That's what Oddin said. You're attacking him for something he isn't saying. Chill the *** out.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-01-25 20:16:08
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Sylph.Oddin said:
You apparently have no idea how franchise restaurants work, do you?
you apparently think franchised restaurants only have one meat supplier, meat packing location...etc

Serj said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Serj said:
Jesus, nevermind. Just read what he's *** saying and don't take it the way you want to.
nice try at trolling me serjio.
i love how you *** are always quick to jump and call me a troll in all situations though.

Oddin said the MEAT is certified to be what is it. They are blaming TB for the MIXTURE for it's percentages. That's what Oddin said. You're attacking him for something he isn't saying. Chill the *** out.
you chill.
i'm chill as ***.
i'm so chill i'm metal in the winter dawg.
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By Serj 2011-01-25 20:17:34
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
You apparently have no idea how franchise restaurants work, do you?
you apparently think franchised restaurants only have one meat supplier, meat packing location...etc

Serj said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Serj said:
Jesus, nevermind. Just read what he's *** saying and don't take it the way you want to.
nice try at trolling me serjio.
i love how you *** are always quick to jump and call me a troll in all situations though.

Oddin said the MEAT is certified to be what is it. They are blaming TB for the MIXTURE for it's percentages. That's what Oddin said. You're attacking him for something he isn't saying. Chill the *** out.
you chill.
i'm chill as ***.
i'm so chill i'm metal in the winter dawg.


Then stop flipping out on me/others.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-01-25 20:18:37
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Serj said:
Then stop flipping out on me/others.
why do you think i'm flipping?
ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE GUYS THAT THINKS TYPING IN ALLCAPS IS YELLING?
I LOL AT U.

but it is good that i get called a tinfoil hat/troll once i disagree with someone :D

OK GUIZ I'M GOING TO ONLY AGREE WITH YOU GUYS ON THE FORAMS FROM NOW ON.
WILL YOU STOP CALLING ME A TROLL AND TIN HAT IF I DO?
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-01-25 20:20:49
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Dude if its a problem at that one practiular meat packing plant, its something going on at that level, not taco bell as a whole.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-01-25 20:21:19
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Sylph.Kimble said:
Dude if its a problem at that one practiular meat packing plant, its something going on at that level, not taco bell as a whole.
why does it have to be a problem with only one?
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By Sylph.Oddin 2011-01-25 20:21:43
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He doesn't have to agree with me. He can be suspicious of it all. It makes no difference. I'm just laying out my previous experience. I'm no expert and never claimed it. I just pointed out the obvious error the plaintiff made because of their assumptions.

Also:

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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-01-25 20:22:57
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you forgot the humorous bit about causing physical harm with a case of meat Oddin!
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By Serj 2011-01-25 20:24:01
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Also, I don't eat red meats. When I make chili, I use TVP as a meat substitute. All vegetarian "meat" products are just imitation fillers with spices added. The concept isn't foreign, really, but I don't eat that stuff so I really don't care either way. Just throwing the thought out there.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-01-25 20:24:09
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Because thats your counter argument, that even though the one Oddin worked at was 100% legit, that its not like that at ALL of them. So either its certain ones that are having problems, or you happen to think that one was the ONLY one that was legit.

And any rate, if meat is being marked 100% USDA meat and its not, thats a problem with the feds, not taco bell.
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By Sylph.Oddin 2011-01-25 20:24:19
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Indeed.

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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-01-25 20:25:53
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I actually don't mind Taco Bell if it's the higher-priced stuff like grilled steak tacos. It's not bad and not altogether unhealthy either, if you need something to eat at 1am.

But anything from the lower priced menu, especially anything involving ground meat that comes from a tube? Never in a million friggin' years. The stuff costs 99 cents for a reason.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-01-25 20:26:04
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Because thats your counter argument, that even though the one Oddin worked at was 100% legit, that its not like that at ALL of them. So either its certain ones that are having problems, or you happen to think that one was the ONLY one that was legit.

And any rate, if meat is being marked 100% USDA meat and its not, thats a problem with the feds, not taco bell.
my counter argument was that there was one rogue meat packing plant causing Taco bell trouble?
I do NOT remember saying that in so many words.
who gives them those dern stickers and where can i get 1?
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