Relic Weapon Or Empyrean Weapon?

I am trying to decide to either go for Relic Weapon SAM or Empyrean Weapon SAM. Are relic weapons dead now? Cause if they are they should be cheap to get now.

Dynamis glass still static 500k each time. Theoretically less people doing dynamis decreases supply, but with empyreans'competition, less people would want a relic so less buyers and price falling. Though I never personally knew someone who bought currency, but someone has to buy it.

Do what you want imo. I enjoy blm/smn so I'm working on a mythic, Laevateinn if blm gets comet/meteor, or else Nirvana. It sucks doing the ***and I get excited everytime I see alexandrite, but it's fun working towards something I'd enjoy.

don't do either

finish leveling your ninja, upgrade tobi +1/2 (woe blade hi) until kannagi itself

there, just saved you about four months of your life i'd imagine, regardless of if you chose amanomurakumo or masamune, judging upon your question and era of ffxi it's being asked in

do what u want, when abyssea is long gone and SE take out (hopefully) a new add on, which wont be abyssea and wont have RR atma ^^ relics will shine again(apart from a few weapons ofc amano/aegis/Ghorn, lol)

simple really relic will prob take 10-15x's more effort than a emp but u will be sure SE will nerf/buff/sue any weapon that comes close to them(just look at 85>90 boost for example).

Real answer, Masamune runs DPS circles around Amanomurakumo and is incredibly easy to get. That said, Square Enix has "Assured" the player base, that Relic Weapons will become the pinnacle of a jobs show of power at -Some point- in the future.

Honestly, I'd do Masamune until SE does something other than ***out giggles and devour sunshine, since at the very least, you won't be out 100+M

in all honestly iron has both amano+masamune, and he never uses amano its still prob in the 85 form he spent 2 weeks solid doing ^^

i have masamune, and amano just doesnt cut it, Stp+7 for a aftermath was good when?, ODD tbh crushes it, masamune is "nice" in abyssea but not king, outside in the real world where u dont have 1000000 STR 10000000 DEX 2m hp, fudo wins period


but yeh 100m+ for a weapon
or
1-3 weeks work for a emp weapon that "atm" destroys it

you don't even need to open the spoiler, you know it's coming

anyways, as i said before, high emphasis,


^

Well I guess your right, Empyrean is easier to get and more powerful and Relic is way more expensive and does less damage then Masamune.

Don't you mean Ukon?

i didn't look at the guy's profile, so i figured his warrior was lower (even though abyssea burning a job 30>90 takes all of 9?hrs), so ninja ahoy

I myself am working on a Ukon. (My warrior is actually 90, my FFXIAH profile is outdated, because the link to it broke and it wont work with the other up-to-date page <.<)

Laevateinn is worse than magian staves ...

Im going for relic, regardless of what poeple say about it being a waste of money or that Empy is better. Although, im doing polearm, and ive not really seen much info on the empy WS or anything about it at all really. Gungnir is something ive always wanted and the feeling of accomplishment is really what im looking for, and getting an Empy wouldnt really give me that feeling. I like the idea of taking 1year+ to get something. The journey getting there is what i enjoy. I do hear alot of good things about Masa though, so if its simpley dmg your looking for and not the journey of forever like me, then go for Masa :P

either way gl on which ever you decide to get ^^ They are both awesome, neither of them is a waste of time/money. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.

I'm glad you feel so strongly about this, as an accomplishment, even though the best DRG weapon out there right now is so much easier to get than Relic, Empyrean, or Mythic. If I wasn't so damn cheap and lazy, I'd be doing the same thing (Except I'd be after mythic instead, so much cooler looking).

Dont you need to build up 150k nyzul isle tokens and 100k points from Einherjar? Not really looked into Mythic all that much since that was my understanding. The thing about relic is you can do it in your own time, just building currency. When it comes to getting tokens/points its not something you can jsut spam since you need tags/72hour wait period. Unless of course im totally wrong...

That is true, but they both take about the same amount of effort, in the end, out of the three I'd go for coolness factor (not really ease, though winning an emp would be sweet)

Im lucky enough to be in a dyna shell where i get to sponsor some of the runs, although it wont make it super quick, it definetly helps. That mixed with simpley buying currency speeds it up alot and i feel like im making progress everyday. But like i said, needing to wait for tags/72hours, just feels like im at a standstill most of the time. But yeh... Ryu looks better than Gungnir, although gungnir is still sexy xD

Not to mention the fact that Ryunohige shits all over Gungnir. OAT Drakesbane spam, yes please!

Not a source of my argument, but that is also a good point, but, in the end I'll keep working on a Corsesca, which puts all three of the hard to get polearms to shame with pure DoT.

Granted when i get it, its gunna take just aslong updagrading it as it did to get it >.>

Wouldn't TurkeyLegs be equally as good?

Ukon destroys everything, provided it can go all out. That being said, def takes more support to be able to do so. Mnk has much better dmg mitigation it can use while still going all out.


Pure damage though, nothing touches Ukon.

Ukon is a beast, Warrior has, in gear, merits and job traits, what essentially adds up to be a constant "OAT" effect that processes on Weapon skills, making it perhaps the most sickening display of power in the known galaxy.

That said, the OP isn't asking about any other weapon than Amano or Masamune, so
Now my feelings are hurt, I have much better punctuation than that.

Also, I don't know if you noticed, but the OP is asking a very specific question, Masamune or Amano, so yeah, you're still useless.

Often worse than HQ staffs too...

I dunno about that... at 90 it's

DPS: 1343
DMG:90
Delay:402
Enhances "Elemental Seal" effect Accuracy+30
Magic Accuracy+10
"Magic Atk. Bonus"+50 "Vidohunir"
Aftermath: Inc. Mag. Acc./Mag. Atk. Occasionally attacks twice
LV 90 BLM

I'd think that's better than the NQ staves and while it's likely worse vs. the HQ or the 90 Magian +2 staves, Hohenheim said they were thinking of building it for Meteor which no one even knows that the elemental affinity will be?

TBH I just look at it as a golf club. Might be useful in a niche situation, so to that end just stick it in the bag with the rest of the staves a BLM will have at their disposal

Forgot it was up to 50MAB now. Ok assuming you make it AND do all the trials to get it to 90 (fun times) it would be HQ staffs as long as you had less than 233 MAB...

But even the teiwaz stage of magian staffs will most likely start beating it in abyssea ie have at least 150 MAB total.

Personally I'd go for nirvana since you aren't betting on a huge maybe on if it will be halfway decent or not lol

and i have both as a testament that neither is worth it at this point in time in ffxi, so once again, go suck a million *** with your near-equally worthless drk for i'm sure +95% of the posters here can agree that doing neither would be quite beneficial to the op's success

the best part is though, he kind of answered his own question without any input needed

in before youmad.jpg

in before i slap him on the cheek a third time all while he assumes i'm taking this seriously in some manner

i ain't even mad (.jpg), but goddamn it is astonishing seeing people dig themselves a hole under their own feet and not care to admit it

They changed trials to between 200-400 kills per trial. It's not 1.5k-2k anymore. And I wouldn't dare start it until we knew about comet/meteor.