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Teenager Whoopin for Acting Hard On Facebook (Vid)
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2011-01-07 06:21:37
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2011-01-07 07:19:55
reminds me of how sometimes a little ***-whooping helps.
my parents never hit or whatever but when we were in England back when i was a kid i learned the wonderful word "***" from the neighbours kids.
and finding it cool i used it wherever we went.
Till the day i insulted a police officer with it.
***i was like 6 or 7 when i said that.
My Dad got me into our car and whooped my ***.
lesson learned and i have to say i do not think any second in front of a police officer "hey let's inslt him" it worked.
in short: yeah from all the moralfags "oh my goerd he beat him" go screw off and watch how you kids evolve into evil little *** that listen to noone. all others are welcome to join the club of being "whooped-once-and-learned-from-it".
By Luz 2011-01-07 07:21:45
I don't necessarily see the beating as a problem personally. It's a temporary solution to a greater problem but in this case it was certainly effective. It's a way to scare/humiliate the kid into not acting like a thug until he realizes (or is taught) that it really isn't cool in any context.
The uncle did nothing that would leave lasting marks. In a month, nobody online will remember the video. Now or in the near future both the kid and his friends that he was humiliated in front of will realize that the uncle did it for the kid's benefit. I personally would not have held it against him were it my uncle.
It's not the best solution for the problem but until I realized that what I was doing was stupid, I'd rather be afraid to do it again than do/say something stupid. That kid will thank him someday if he doesn't still turn out to be a thug.
One of my little brothers in Colorado *** about his stepfather sometimes smacking him upside the head and I think it's a great thing. He's a *** punk who doesn't behave or listen to anyone. He thinks it's cool to make gang signs with some thugs that live in the apartments with him. My father is (I admit) a failure as far as being a parent goes.
I think if he doesn't turn out to be a punk he will come to realize those smacks upside the head were to try to instill some values in his head in spite of his obvious contempt for everything his stepfather says to him. He's more afraid of his stepfather than going back to a youth detention center -.-
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By Titan.Wombat 2011-01-07 07:50:15
F*cking rap music nowadays. Kids need to stop believing that those idiots actually did, do, or will do anything they say in their songs.
/sigh
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2011-01-07 08:42:49
Titan.Wombat said: F*cking rap music nowadays. Kids need to stop believing that those idiots actually did, do, or will do anything they say in their songs. /sigh
This be true. What I dont understand is, what is the appeal of being a hard ***. I was never a hard *** growing up. And I admit I listened to that same kind of music (and everything else). I think I was one of the intelligent kids that saw through all that ***.
And anyone agianst a good old fashioned *** whooping makes me laugh. "OOOOH NO! Little johnny was whooped for stealing. Thats abuse!!" Never mind the fact that Johnny stole $300 worth of items from the store. Johnny is the victim in all this.
Not saying that every bad thing a kid does deserves a whooping, but a good and thoughful (Key word here is thoughtful) *** whooping in extreme circumstances can and should be warrented; and is far from abuse. There is nothing morally wrong or mentally damaging about getting your *** whooped when you truly deserve it. Its a good thing his uncle exposed him for the Jackass he truly is. Because that same gangta tone could have gotten him killed by someone who dosnt care for his life like his uncle.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-01-07 09:20:00
Quote: I laugh at all this "people thanking their parents for beating them" nonsense. Are you telling me there was no better way to get through to you than your parents unable to concede to their failures thus striking you? No really, that is how it works, when someone can not concede to their failures they resort to violence. Sorry you people were such idiots that you need to be whacked to understand something. How did learning math go then if that is the case? Did your parents put on JP game show host costumes and hit you in the forehead with a paper fan when you added incorrectly?
***. It's 2011 and time for resolutions and such, so I'll admit that I 100% agree with Spicyryan on this.
Nail on the head. When a human can not accept, comprehend, or appreciate his/her own failures, violence is a common outlet or result. It's a crutch, and a tool used by simpletons. Sadly, it can be an effective tool, at least in the short-term, since physical pain is noxious to most humans.
However, it breaks down to this: violence begets more violence, and two wrongs do not make a "right".
If you think corporal punishment is noble, proper, or quality parenting ... then you are an idiot, plain and simple.
If you "thank" your father for whipping you with a belt in your youth, then I truly feel sorry for you. You probably deserved much better.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 09:25:00
Bismarck.Elanabelle said: Quote: I laugh at all this "people thanking their parents for beating them" nonsense. Are you telling me there was no better way to get through to you than your parents unable to concede to their failures thus striking you? No really, that is how it works, when someone can not concede to their failures they resort to violence. Sorry you people were such idiots that you need to be whacked to understand something. How did learning math go then if that is the case? Did your parents put on JP game show host costumes and hit you in the forehead with a paper fan when you added incorrectly?
***. It's 2011 and time for resolutions and such, so I'll admit that I 100% agree with Spicyryan on this.
Nail on the head. When a human can not accept, comprehend, or appreciate his/her own failures, violence is a common outlet or result. It's a crutch, and a tool used by simpletons. Sadly, it can be an effective tool, at least in the short-term, since physical pain is noxious to most humans.
However, it breaks down to this: violence begets more violence, and two wrongs do not make a "right".
If you think corporal punishment is noble, proper, or quality parenting ... then you are an idiot, plain and simple.
If you "thank" your father for whipping you with a belt in your youth, then I truly feel sorry for you. You probably deserved much better.
/clap
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2011-01-07 09:26:52
ok, so the guy in the video is the uncle? Not only is that not effective, the parents could sue him. But they're black street monkeys, so I doubt he has anything worth suing for (if you don't count his secret crack stash).
Um... Other than the fact that the video itself is stupid, I have nothing further to add.
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By Ragnarok.Darkdevil 2011-01-07 09:29:31
Bismarck.Kyaaadaa said: Shiva.Flionheart said: As much as it's funny, it's not exactly good parenting lol. sorry... rate down, good parenting and bad parenting isn't always about "how" the punishment is doled out, its about whether or not the lesson is learned in a manner worthy of the lesson being learned. I truly think the kid got it through his head that he screwed up. Not every kid needs physical correction, and many people believe that physical correction is wrong, but in this case: 1: the punishment isn't permanent nor long lasting. A few welts from a belt go away probably by the time the kid went to sleep. He had pants on, cushioned a lot of the blows. 2: mental correction wasn't degrading to the kid, there were no slanderous name callings or major put downs. The kid actions were called stupid, the decision to post on facebook was stupid, but the uncle never went to town on him like i've seen some internet trolls do.
Was a good job imo.
100% agree with u man.
he did this for his child sake. Who will be sure the boy wont meet a person or kid in real gang and he wont get hurt by the that boy who recognize him as gang in facebook
- As u all of u know police take any threat or post in site like facebook, Imagine the boy post something like : I met him in street and when he see my gun he get scared, If there a kid in his school or Neighbours he can acuse him and drag him to police and that could be affect on his future
What he did was a good job
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 09:42:54
Ragnarok.Darkdevil said: Bismarck.Kyaaadaa said: Shiva.Flionheart said: As much as it's funny, it's not exactly good parenting lol. sorry... rate down, good parenting and bad parenting isn't always about "how" the punishment is doled out, its about whether or not the lesson is learned in a manner worthy of the lesson being learned. I truly think the kid got it through his head that he screwed up. Not every kid needs physical correction, and many people believe that physical correction is wrong, but in this case: 1: the punishment isn't permanent nor long lasting. A few welts from a belt go away probably by the time the kid went to sleep. He had pants on, cushioned a lot of the blows. 2: mental correction wasn't degrading to the kid, there were no slanderous name callings or major put downs. The kid actions were called stupid, the decision to post on facebook was stupid, but the uncle never went to town on him like i've seen some internet trolls do.
Was a good job imo.
100% agree with u man.
he did this for his child sake. Who will be sure the boy wont meet a person or kid in real gang and he wont get hurt by the that boy who recognize him as gang in facebook
- As u all of u know police take any threat or post in site like facebook, Imagine the boy post something like : I met him in street and when he see my gun he get scared, If there a kid in his school or Neighbours he can acuse him and drag him to police and that could be affect on his future
What he did was a good job
na quite frankly it just shows the uncle was just about as much of an idiot as the kid, that's all it shows. very bad parenting indeed.
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By Odin.Sinharvest 2011-01-07 09:55:05
You say bad parenting, but I bet the kid wont do that again.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 09:56:00
Odin.Sinharvest said: You say bad parenting, but I bet the kid wont do that again.
I extremely doubt it
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By Odin.Sinharvest 2011-01-07 10:01:14
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Odin.Sinharvest said: You say bad parenting, but I bet the kid wont do that again.
I extremely doubt it
Are you serious? There is no way the kid can recover from this, was forced to delete his facebook, his friends would dismiss any attempt at "acting hard" by throwing this in his face. Sure he could make another facebook, but no one would take it seriously, no reason to even pretend.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 10:01:31
Caitsith.Shiroi said: Quote: ok, so the guy in the video is the uncle? Not only is that not effective, the parents could sue him.
Unless there's a reason why he has to live with his uncle ...?
even if they guy has custody, this is child abuse
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2011-01-07 10:12:06
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Caitsith.Shiroi said: Quote: ok, so the guy in the video is the uncle? Not only is that not effective, the parents could sue him.
Unless there's a reason why he has to live with his uncle ...?
even if they guy has custody, this is child abuse its not child abuse if there are no marks in the skin
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2011-01-07 10:12:57
It depends on your kid. Corporal punishment shouldn't be the very 1st thing you use to teach your kid a lesson but one of the tools.
Some kids you will never need to hit them because they would easily learn from their own mistakes and never do it again. Some kids tho are *** hard headed and do it again and again and again.
Example, School calls and your kid skip a class. You wait for him to get home, see his friends for the class he missed (get homework) sit with him (give him a talk about what he is doing is wrong, etc) help him with his homework then give him some sort of restriction (grounded, take away his wtv thing he loves)
2nd, 3rd time. School calls and ask if you approved your kid going home early because of (lets say doctor reason, dental wtv) "so he made a fake note" Your kid gets home and tells you that it was a half day and they let him come home early.
1) he lied to you
2) You have approached him multiple times about this yet he is still doing it
At this point. I want feedback what would you do to discipline your kid? Without the need of Smacking sense into him.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 10:16:55
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Caitsith.Shiroi said: Quote: ok, so the guy in the video is the uncle? Not only is that not effective, the parents could sue him.
Unless there's a reason why he has to live with his uncle ...?
even if they guy has custody, this is child abuse its not child abuse if there are no marks in the skin
that's like saying it isn't rape if there isn't signs of it
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 10:17:52
Ramuh.Thunderz said: It depends on your kid. Corporal punishment shouldn't be the very 1st thing you use to teach your kid a lesson but one of the tools.
Some kids you will never need to hit them because they would easily learn from their own mistakes and never do it again. Some kids tho are *** hard headed and do it again and again and again.
Example, School calls and your kid skip a class. You wait for him to get home, see his friends for the class he missed (get homework) sit with him (give him a talk about what he is doing is wrong, etc) help him with his homework then give him some sort of restriction (grounded, take away his wtv thing he loves)
2nd, 3rd time. School calls and ask if you approved your kid going home early because of (lets say doctor reason, dental wtv) "so he made a fake note" Your kid gets home and tells you that it was a half day and they let him come home early.
1) he lied to you
2) You have approached him multiple times about this yet he is still doing it
At this point. I want feedback what would you do to discipline your kid? Without the need of Smacking sense into him.
resorting to violence only shows a weakness on your part and quite frankly only teaches them to solve their problems through violence, something you should never teach a child
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By Odin.Sinharvest 2011-01-07 10:21:51
You're talking in a loop, in that situation, how would you discipline the kid, there is no doubt in my mind this is the first time the uncle has had to deal with this. I was whooped a majority of my life, and I don't raise a hand to any of my children, what works for some dont work for others, does not make the type of punishment any less valid.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 10:25:59
Odin.Sinharvest said: You're talking in a loop, in that situation, how would you discipline the kid, there is no doubt in my mind this is the first time the uncle has had to deal with this. I was whooped a majority of my life, and I don't raise a hand to any of my children, what works for some dont work for others, does not make the type of punishment any less valid.
I would have removed internet access, simple as that, it's not even hard to do.
Child abuse isn't disciplining them, it's abuse.
All it does is teach them to solve their problems through violence, it's a solution for idiots.
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2011-01-07 10:28:58
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Ramuh.Thunderz said: It depends on your kid. Corporal punishment shouldn't be the very 1st thing you use to teach your kid a lesson but one of the tools.
Some kids you will never need to hit them because they would easily learn from their own mistakes and never do it again. Some kids tho are *** hard headed and do it again and again and again.
Example, School calls and your kid skip a class. You wait for him to get home, see his friends for the class he missed (get homework) sit with him (give him a talk about what he is doing is wrong, etc) help him with his homework then give him some sort of restriction (grounded, take away his wtv thing he loves)
2nd, 3rd time. School calls and ask if you approved your kid going home early because of (lets say doctor reason, dental wtv) "so he made a fake note" Your kid gets home and tells you that it was a half day and they let him come home early.
1) he lied to you
2) You have approached him multiple times about this yet he is still doing it
At this point. I want feedback what would you do to discipline your kid? Without the need of Smacking sense into him.
resorting to violence only shows a weakness on your part and quite frankly only teaches them to solve their problems through violence, something you should never teach a child
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Odin.Sinharvest said: You're talking in a loop, in that situation, how would you discipline the kid, there is no doubt in my mind this is the first time the uncle has had to deal with this. I was whooped a majority of my life, and I don't raise a hand to any of my children, what works for some dont work for others, does not make the type of punishment any less valid.
I would have removed internet access, simple as that, it's not even hard to do.
Child abuse isn't disciplining them, it's abuse.
All it does is teach them to solve their problems through violence, it's a solution for idiots.
oh lordy kids would walk all over you...
edit: also the issue here isn't facebook, removing internet access isn't the solution but the image your kid is portraying of himself to his peers Now that is the BIG problem. So your punishment is not resolving the big problem. He will still be able to go outside act gangster, etc.
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By Leviathan.Natsuchii 2011-01-07 10:31:52
tl;dr passed page 2. You want to go and beat the living ***out of your kids to strike fear into their hearts and call it discipline sure, you want to say it's an example of good parenting, fine with me. But when your child becomes a rebellious teenager and is old enough to have his/her own mind, they'll either thank you for it or think you're one *** up child abusing son of a *** and disown you as a parent.
Violence only makes it worse. Just keep it to your own children. I've seen abusive parents attempt and say some pretty messed up ***to my own child because they prefer the old fashioned way is the best way.
I was even told once to shove a cookie down my child's throat and to choke him to shut him up because the guy was getting a headache.
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By Odin.Sinharvest 2011-01-07 10:32:48
And name calling is a solution for people without a proper argument, I'm well aware of the discipline I received as a child can be called "child abuse", I'm not saying there was not another way, but it kept me in line. How long do you remove internet access? How long till he just goes to a friends house? Whats to stop him from posting at school, or going to a library?
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By Leviathan.Mikeh 2011-01-07 10:33:32
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
I would have removed internet access, simple as that, it's not even hard to do.
Child abuse isn't disciplining them, it's abuse.
All it does is teach them to solve their problems through violence, it's a solution for idiots.
Removing internet access wouldn't solve that problem. People can facebook on most mobile phones. Also, that is not child abuse, he got a spanking for behaving like an idiot. Seemed perfectly fine to me =/
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By Leviathan.Natsuchii 2011-01-07 10:36:43
Leviathan.Mikeh said: Also, that is not child abuse, he got a spanking for behaving like an idiot. Seemed perfectly fine to me =/
In some states in the US, spanking is counted as child abuse. I'm not 100% sure about other states but it definitely is in New York.
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By Bahamut.Lolserj 2011-01-07 10:37:49
Leviathan.Mikeh said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
I would have removed internet access, simple as that, it's not even hard to do.
Child abuse isn't disciplining them, it's abuse.
All it does is teach them to solve their problems through violence, it's a solution for idiots.
Removing internet access wouldn't solve that problem. People can facebook on most mobile phones. Also, that is not child abuse, he got a spanking for behaving like an idiot. Seemed perfectly fine to me =/
could always lock him in a closet and feed him moldy bread and water for 2-3 days
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By Leviathan.Mikeh 2011-01-07 10:37:53
That's why new york is filled with *** probably.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-01-07 10:38:34
Once again there's a huge difference between a spanking and child abuse. Apparently some people cannot distinguish the huge difference between the two.
You honestly think removing internet access, or a lol-time-out would have taught this punk a lesson?
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By Leviathan.Natsuchii 2011-01-07 10:38:52
Meh, there's *** anywhere you go. ^^
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