|
|
Teenager Whoopin for Acting Hard On Facebook (Vid)
 Sylph.Oddin
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1756
By Sylph.Oddin 2011-01-07 13:09:58
Bismarck.Elanabelle said: Liela, I'm sorry that you had to endure both physical and emotional abuse as a child. That really really sucks.
But choosing between the two is akin to choosing between getting shot in the face or being slowly bled to death by cutting a major blood vessel. Sure, if forced to choose between the two, I guess anyone would choose the gunshot. Who would want to slowly bleed out to death?
Then again, who really would want to be shot in the face? ...
Here's the facts, folks, based on psychological study:
When young people are beaten, their brains learn that beatings are "normal", "harmless", or even "good for you". This causes development in the brain similar to what occurs to victims of "battered wife syndrome".
Furthermore, once violence is hard-wired into a young person's brain, it is permanent. So while a spanking does not "turn someone into a musclebound blood-lusting cretin", as some hyperbolic numskull suggested in this thread, it DOES PERMANENTLY hard-wire the child's brain to accept and condone violence as commonplace, acceptable and "no big deal".
You can not argue against this. It's scientific fact.
Those of you that are advocating for corporal punishment for children, you're all blind and innocent victims of this abuse, so I don't blame you, and I do feel compassion for you. As I said before, you deserved much better, probably.
You can go on praising you fathers for "beating some sense into you" or such drivel. But when you do that, think about the battered-wife syndrome. You're the SAME as the wife who keeps coming back to the man who beats her ... coming back to get more of that good tough lovin'.
Wow... just wow... You actually compared spanking to wife beating. That has got to be the greatest/worst analogy used anywhere. The sheer awesomeness of the failure can't be expressed in words.
[+]
 Leviathan.Chaosx
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 20284
By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-01-07 13:10:15
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Well in the U.K. :
Quote: In the UK, spanking or smacking is legal, but it may not leave a mark on the body, and in Scotland since October 2003 it has been illegal to use any implements when disciplining a child. The total abolition of corporal punishment has been discussed.[15] In a 2004 survey, 71% of the population would support a ban on parents smacking their children.[16] In a 2006 survey, 80% of the population said they believed in smacking, and 73% said that they believed that any ban would cause a sharp deterioration in children's behaviour. Seven out of ten parents said they themselves use corporal punishment.[17] oh yeah, because the government knows how to raise kids. *** morons. If you take away the means to discipline children, then the government might as well adopt them all. Next thing you know, they'll ban parents from telling their kids what to do. Before you know it, no form of discipline or guidance will be allowed when it comes to a child, leaving them to do whatever the *** they want.
edit: Soon the country is gonna raise a bunch of *** whiny, pussy children with no sense of responsibility, moral fiber, and discipline.
Well umm actually they have upheld its use.
What's weird is that 71% of people would support the ban, but 2 years later 80% said they believed in using it.
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-07 13:10:17
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Well in the U.K. :
Quote: In the UK, spanking or smacking is legal, but it may not leave a mark on the body, and in Scotland since October 2003 it has been illegal to use any implements when disciplining a child. The total abolition of corporal punishment has been discussed.[15] In a 2004 survey, 71% of the population would support a ban on parents smacking their children.[16] In a 2006 survey, 80% of the population said they believed in smacking, and 73% said that they believed that any ban would cause a sharp deterioration in children's behaviour. Seven out of ten parents said they themselves use corporal punishment.[17]
I don't see the problem with a light spanking. I do think the uncle on the video went too far but I don't know the situation so that's just an opinion based on my own feelings.
I agree with some corporal punishment, as a last resort. People like Jeta forget that it escalates into a spanking, doesn't start as one. then it escalates to hitting, none of it is acceptable
Still shows how much your view on the world is immature.
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2595
By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-01-07 13:10:56
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Seven out of ten parents said they themselves use corporal punishment.
Yes, I'm sure 70% of parents do use corporal punishment, if the poll's definition of corporal punishment is any type of physical contact used for discipline.
As stated previously, a spanking is FAR different from a dozen belt-whippings, as seen in the OP video.
You don't think so?
Ok then, how about this?
You can choose:
A. one one-second zap from a tazzer set on a low intensity, or
B. a dozen five-second doses of electricity from sticking a conductive metal fork into an electrical outlet while drenched in water.
Are they the same? If they are, then I suppose you wouldn't mind if I flip a coin to decide which one receive?
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-07 13:11:26
Sylph.Oddin said: Bismarck.Elanabelle said: Liela, I'm sorry that you had to endure both physical and emotional abuse as a child. That really really sucks.
But choosing between the two is akin to choosing between getting shot in the face or being slowly bled to death by cutting a major blood vessel. Sure, if forced to choose between the two, I guess anyone would choose the gunshot. Who would want to slowly bleed out to death?
Then again, who really would want to be shot in the face? ...
Here's the facts, folks, based on psychological study:
When young people are beaten, their brains learn that beatings are "normal", "harmless", or even "good for you". This causes development in the brain similar to what occurs to victims of "battered wife syndrome".
Furthermore, once violence is hard-wired into a young person's brain, it is permanent. So while a spanking does not "turn someone into a musclebound blood-lusting cretin", as some hyperbolic numskull suggested in this thread, it DOES PERMANENTLY hard-wire the child's brain to accept and condone violence as commonplace, acceptable and "no big deal".
You can not argue against this. It's scientific fact.
Those of you that are advocating for corporal punishment for children, you're all blind and innocent victims of this abuse, so I don't blame you, and I do feel compassion for you. As I said before, you deserved much better, probably.
You can go on praising you fathers for "beating some sense into you" or such drivel. But when you do that, think about the battered-wife syndrome. You're the SAME as the wife who keeps coming back to the man who beats her ... coming back to get more of that good tough lovin'.
Wow... just wow... You actually compared spanking to wife beating. That has got to be the greatest/worst analogy used anywhere. The sheer awesomeness of the failure can't be expressed in words.
Elanabelle is a moron. This isn't anything new.
If anyone can't differentiate between spanking and wife beating you're a moron.
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 15066
By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-01-07 13:12:31
He didn't even hit him hard w/ it
 Bahamut.Lolserj
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3295
By Bahamut.Lolserj 2011-01-07 13:12:41
this thread has gone to ***
Bahamut.Lolserj
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3295
By Bahamut.Lolserj 2011-01-07 13:13:13
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: He didn't even hit him hard w/ it
i know, but you know it's abuse
Sylph.Oddin
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1756
By Sylph.Oddin 2011-01-07 13:13:16
Bismarck.Elanabelle said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Seven out of ten parents said they themselves use corporal punishment.
Yes, I'm sure 70% of parents do use corporal punishment, if the poll's definition of corporal punishment is any type of physical contact used for discipline.
As stated previously, a spanking is FAR different from a dozen belt-whippings, as seen in the OP video.
You don't think so?
Ok then, how about this?
You can choose:
A. one one-second zap from a tazzer set on a low intensity, or
B. a dozen five-second doses of electricity from sticking a conductive metal fork into an electrical outlet while drenched in water.
Are they the same? If they are, then I suppose you wouldn't mind if I flip a coin to decide which one receive?
You really suck at analogies. Just sayin'.
[+]
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-07 13:13:36
Bahamut.Lolserj said: this thread has gone to ***
[+]
Leviathan.Chaosx
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 20284
By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-01-07 13:14:17
Bismarck.Elanabelle said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Seven out of ten parents said they themselves use corporal punishment.
Yes, I'm sure 70% of parents do use corporal punishment, if the poll's definition of corporal punishment is any type of physical contact used for discipline.
As stated previously, a spanking is FAR different from a dozen belt-whippings, as seen in the OP video.
You don't think so?
Ok then, how about this?
You can choose:
A. one one-second zap from a tazzer set on a low intensity, or
B. a dozen five-second doses of electricity from sticking a conductive metal fork into an electrical outlet while drenched in water.
Are they the same? If they are, then I suppose you wouldn't mind if I flip a coin to decide which one receive? Clearly you have ignored Minnesota's Supreme court ruling on someone who spanked their kid 36 times with a maple paddle and who was declared innocent by the Minnesota Supreme Court. This has since then set a legal precedent.
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6470
By Fenrir.Stiklelf 2011-01-07 13:15:32
Minnesota is full of evil people.
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2595
By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-01-07 13:15:46
Well Oddin, you fail, as usual.
Nice jpg though.
I wasn't comparing the actions (directly) of spanking and wife beating to be the same.
I AM saying the psychological ramifications of the two are VERY SIMILAR with regard to how they alter the brain's development and function. And that's truth.
I'm also saying that a battered wife eventually BELIEVES that the beatings "aren't a big deal" and/or that the beatings "are deserved, or necessary". And the people in this thread who are praising their fathers for beatings in their youth are suffering from the same delusion. What's worse, because the delusion was created in childhood, the damage is likely permanent.
Leviathan.Chaosx
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 20284
By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-01-07 13:16:08
Shiva.Flionheart said: Bahamut.Lolserj said: this thread has gone to ***
[+]
Bahamut.Jetackuu
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9001
By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 13:16:16
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Bismarck.Elanabelle said: Leviathan.Chaosx said: Seven out of ten parents said they themselves use corporal punishment.
Yes, I'm sure 70% of parents do use corporal punishment, if the poll's definition of corporal punishment is any type of physical contact used for discipline.
As stated previously, a spanking is FAR different from a dozen belt-whippings, as seen in the OP video.
You don't think so?
Ok then, how about this?
You can choose:
A. one one-second zap from a tazzer set on a low intensity, or
B. a dozen five-second doses of electricity from sticking a conductive metal fork into an electrical outlet while drenched in water.
Are they the same? If they are, then I suppose you wouldn't mind if I flip a coin to decide which one receive? Clearly you have ignored Minnesota's Supreme court ruling on someone who spanked their kid 36 times with a maple paddle and who was declared innocent by the Minnesota Supreme Court. This has since then set a legal precedent.
minnesota's ruling will be overturned if it gets to the supreme court
either way it won't matter if the locality in which the person lives has different laws, or if we introduce new ones in the future to prevent said abuse
Bahamut.Lolserj
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3295
By Bahamut.Lolserj 2011-01-07 13:16:31
how about this, parents who use time outs as punishment and parents who use spankings and belt whippings as punishment stay the *** out of their opposite's business
Bahamut.Jetackuu
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9001
By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 13:17:27
Bahamut.Lolserj said: how about this, parents who use time outs as punishment and parents who use spankings and belt whippings as punishment stay the *** out of their opposite's business
it's not the parents business I care about, it's the child's safety. If you abuse your child, you should be thrown in jail.
[+]
Bahamut.Lolserj
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3295
By Bahamut.Lolserj 2011-01-07 13:18:07
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Bahamut.Lolserj said: how about this, parents who use time outs as punishment and parents who use spankings and belt whippings as punishment stay the *** out of their opposite's business
it's not the parents business I care about, it's the child's safety. If you abuse your child, you should be thrown in jail.
if it's abuse
spankings and belts are not abuse
Leviathan.Chaosx
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 20284
By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-01-07 13:18:57
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Bahamut.Lolserj said: how about this, parents who use time outs as punishment and parents who use spankings and belt whippings as punishment stay the *** out of their opposite's business
it's not the parents business I care about, it's the child's safety. If you abuse your child, you should be thrown in jail. Why do you care so much about some random child's safety?
Server: Titan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1026
By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2011-01-07 13:19:15
I wonder if Scragg has even bothered to see what has become of his thread?
Bahamut.Jetackuu
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9001
By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 13:19:51
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Bahamut.Lolserj said: how about this, parents who use time outs as punishment and parents who use spankings and belt whippings as punishment stay the *** out of their opposite's business
it's not the parents business I care about, it's the child's safety. If you abuse your child, you should be thrown in jail. Why do you care so much about some random child's safety?
idk, human nature?
[+]
Leviathan.Chaosx
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 20284
By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-01-07 13:20:04
Titan.Darkwizardzin said: I wonder if Scragg has even bothered to see what has become of his thread? He had to have known this would happen, lol.
By Artemicion 2011-01-07 13:20:09
I really hope Jet and Elan don't breed.
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-07 13:20:10
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Bahamut.Lolserj said: how about this, parents who use time outs as punishment and parents who use spankings and belt whippings as punishment stay the *** out of their opposite's business
it's not the parents business I care about, it's the child's safety. If you abuse your child, you should be thrown in jail. Why do you care so much about some random child's safety?
He doesn't. he's doing it to be cantankerous.
Bahamut.Jetackuu
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9001
By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 13:20:15
Bahamut.Lolserj said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Bahamut.Lolserj said: how about this, parents who use time outs as punishment and parents who use spankings and belt whippings as punishment stay the *** out of their opposite's business
it's not the parents business I care about, it's the child's safety. If you abuse your child, you should be thrown in jail.
if it's abuse
spankings and belts are not abuse
yeah, yeah they are
[+]
 Leviathan.Anbu
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 229
By Leviathan.Anbu 2011-01-07 13:20:21
Bahamut.Jetackuu
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9001
By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 13:20:39
Artemicion said: I really hope Jet and Elan don't breed. we think the same of all the people who would abuse their children
[+]
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-07 13:20:43
Artemicion said: I really hope Jet and Elan don't breed.
Those kids would be super well behaved.
Bahamut.Lolserj
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3295
By Bahamut.Lolserj 2011-01-07 13:20:46
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Bahamut.Lolserj said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Bahamut.Lolserj said: how about this, parents who use time outs as punishment and parents who use spankings and belt whippings as punishment stay the *** out of their opposite's business
it's not the parents business I care about, it's the child's safety. If you abuse your child, you should be thrown in jail.
if it's abuse
spankings and belts are not abuse
yeah, yeah they are
based on what person's standards?
Server: Titan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1026
By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2011-01-07 13:21:52
Shiva.Flionheart said: Artemicion said: I really hope Jet and Elan don't breed. Those kids would be super well behaved. or would start a debate every 2 minutes.....
|
|
