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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-11-14 12:43:53
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Sooo, sorry if I ask something silly, but you people made me curious and so I'm gonna ask about the thing that I find most interesting: how much customization can you put in your character?(from creation to development).

Your character's appearance options I think are much better than Oblivion's. You don't get the little adjustment sliders on every little thing like before, but the premade options to choose from look pretty good. Finally the characters don't have big, inflated faces like before.

As far as building options, you don't get any at the start, other than race, appearance, and your name. There are no more physical stats(strength, dexterity, etc). No more birthsigns to choose from(these are now guidestones you can swap out in game, so you aren't stuck with one).

The real customization comes from your skills and perks. The amount of different combinations of perks you can wind up with is amazing. You could have 2 different characters with the same fighting style, and they'd play completely different based on what perks they chose.
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By Sylph.Beelshamen 2011-11-14 12:49:12
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Fenrir.Enternius said: »
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If you know where the vampire dens are, you should be able to do it from the very beginning of the game. For the werewolf, you can damn near go straight to the Companions quest line and become one from the beginning of the game as well. I had the quest line for the Companions flagged within an hour or two of gameplay, and I didn't even go straight to them.

As for the rested or well-rested bonus, I'm not even sure what it does, I haven't had it so I wouldn't call it core or important to have.
It's always been something I've lived by. Getting a Rested status gives a +5% skillup rate bonus for 8 hours, and I believe a Well-rested bonus (From a bed you own) gives a 10% bonus for 8 hours.

I can't think of a scenario where you'd prefer a 5-10% skill up bonus to 100% disease resistance and transformation at will.

Especially since skilling up in skyrim is *** easy, like any other ES game before.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-11-14 12:51:17
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Thanks for the answers, gonna watch some gameplay video to get an idea now.
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-11-14 12:58:10
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Sylph.Beelshamen said: »
It's always been something I've lived by. Getting a Rested status gives a +5% skillup rate bonus for 8 hours, and I believe a Well-rested bonus (From a bed you own) gives a 10% bonus for 8 hours.

I can't think of a scenario where you'd prefer a 5-10% skill up bonus to 100% disease resistance and transformation at will.

Especially since skilling up in skyrim is *** easy, like any other ES game before.

I don't know anything about actual werewolf status in the game, I got to the part where they offer it to you and I declined for the moment. DO you get full control over when you transform? Or are there any involuntary transformations?
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-11-14 12:59:05
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yea, the 100% disease resist is awesome.

i wish i could take SSs, my nord is *** hot ;)
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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-11-14 12:59:27
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I'm starting to worry about my skills and that maybe I've branched out too far.

So far I've got stuff in destruction, restoration, alteration, one-handed, and light armor.

but i want to do smithing as well! only got like one thing in alteration so i guess i can abandon that for smithing...but even then am i spread out too thin?
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By Sylph.Beelshamen 2011-11-14 12:59:54
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Cerberus.Rayik said: »
I don't know anything about actual werewolf status in the game, I got to the part where they offer it to you and I declined for the moment. DO you get full control over when you transform? Or are there any involuntary transformations?

It works like powers. Once a day, at will. Plus it gives you 100% disease resistance.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-11-14 13:01:18
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also if you want to level speech really quick,
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-11-14 13:02:12
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Sylph.Beelshamen said: »
Cerberus.Rayik said: »
I don't know anything about actual werewolf status in the game, I got to the part where they offer it to you and I declined for the moment. DO you get full control over when you transform? Or are there any involuntary transformations?

It works like powers. Once a day, at will. Plus it gives you 100% disease resistance.

Oh, nice! I honestly never notice I even have a disease until townsfolk all point it out, saying I look sickly or whatever. It'd be nice to have just for that.
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-11-14 13:09:32
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Asura.Sandolphon said: »
I'm starting to worry about my skills and that maybe I've branched out too far.

So far I've got stuff in destruction, restoration, alteration, one-handed, and light armor.

but i want to do smithing as well! only got like one thing in alteration so i guess i can abandon that for smithing...but even then am i spread out too thin?

Nah, I think you'll be ok. I've got perks in Block, 1-hand weapons, Destruction, Restoration, Smithing, Enchanting, and even a couple in Archery. I'm barely level 20, with plenty of levels to go. I think you'll be good.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-11-14 13:11:08
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i have points in smithing, one-handed, light armor, speech, and lockpicking so far
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By Artemicion 2011-11-14 13:13:05
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Quick question:
What exactly is the condition to trigger those instant-kill stylized kill animations? I was in close combat with several draugers and even when I completely ran out of stamina, I managed to kick it's *** like Jean Claude Van Damme.

On a side note, we should totally make a "Post your Skyrim Char" thread to see everyone's char builds and appearances.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-11-14 13:13:27
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speech 60, this is faster than smithing =D
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-11-14 13:14:01
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Artemicion said: »
Quick question:
What exactly is the condition to trigger those instant-kill stylized kill animations? I was in close combat with several draugers and even when I completely ran out of stamina, I managed to kick it's *** like Jean Claude Van Damme.

On a side note, we should totally make a "Post your Skyrim Char" thread to see everyone's char builds and appearances.

i wish i could take a screenshot ; ;
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By Artemicion 2011-11-14 13:15:08
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Cerberus.Irohuro said: »
Artemicion said: »
Quick question:
What exactly is the condition to trigger those instant-kill stylized kill animations? I was in close combat with several draugers and even when I completely ran out of stamina, I managed to kick it's *** like Jean Claude Van Damme.

On a side note, we should totally make a "Post your Skyrim Char" thread to see everyone's char builds and appearances.

i wish i could take a screenshot ; ;

Yeah same, I'm sporting PS3 version until I can upgrade my rig.
No shame in using a camera for in game shots I suppose.
Otherwise you can simply give a sort of clicker number on where it is on the scale.
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By slipispsycho 2011-11-14 13:17:51
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I'm not really sure what triggers them, I think you just have a certain percent chance of making a death blow when their health is so far down..
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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-11-14 13:19:08
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Cerberus.Irohuro said: »
i have points in smithing, one-handed, light armor, speech, and lockpicking so far
Are the lockpicking ones any good? Im playing on the default difficulty and I can unlock even master locks in less than 15 picks. That might seem like a lot but I would have gone through so many more in Oblivion and still not have been able to unlock it.
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By Sylph.Beelshamen 2011-11-14 13:20:16
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Dont put points in lockpicking, merchants have endless amounts of lockpicks and you can open them so easily. Even the master ones.
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By Artemicion 2011-11-14 13:20:56
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Heh it's funny, I made a new char the other night and made a mage build, but quickly discovered that Skyrim is pretty true to it's roots and often turns a cheek to those that delve in the arcane arts. Scrolls and magic supporting equipment aren't easy to come by aside from ransacking Necromancer hideouts.

I could go to that college of magic, but it is quite a hike.
Hopefully there is still a spell building system. But sadly I have yet to find any good enchanted staves. Besides, dualcasting is almost too powerful to neglect in nearly any case.

But I would love some more ranged and protection spells instead of your typical ray spells.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-11-14 13:21:00
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they make it even easier to open locks, and theres one that puts gold in every chest, makes the chance of rare items higher, and makes it so your picks break less often
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-11-14 13:25:38
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Psycho Slip said: »
I'm not really sure what triggers them, I think you just have a certain percent chance of making a death blow when their health is so far down..

I don't think health has anything to do with it. I've had enemies do the kill-shot animation to me with full health... I walk up to the fight, swing my weapon, and BAM! I'm impaled on a greatsword.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-11-14 13:27:01
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its really fun when it happens while theyre on fire =) i got a sword with fire damage enchantment from a dragon
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By slipispsycho 2011-11-14 13:28:28
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Artemicion said: »
Heh it's funny, I made a new char the other night and made a mage build, but quickly discovered that Skyrim is pretty true to it's roots and often turns a cheek to those that delve in the arcane arts. Scrolls and magic supporting equipment aren't easy to come by aside from ransacking Necromancer hideouts.

I could go to that college of magic, but it is quite a hike.
Hopefully there is still a spell building system. But sadly I have yet to find any good enchanted staves. Besides, dualcasting is almost too powerful to neglect in nearly any case.

But I would love some more ranged and protection spells instead of your typical ray spells.
The Atronachs are pretty badass... It's like a Garuda or Shiva except they attack from range (they won't back off if an enemy gets in their face) and after they disappear they come back a second later in an explosion.. Causing more damage. At least the flame one does, it's the only one I've used so far.

If you put one in a hallway that's like 20 feet long, once it goes away and comes back it'll fill the hallway with flames. It's especially effective if you can get a bunch of enemies clustered in a hallway or something..
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By Ifrit.Tulnig 2011-11-14 13:29:44
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Recommendations PS3 Xbx360 or PC?

I works beautifully on the XBOX 360. I've put in over 30 hours with no issues. I've seen various comments saying it works well on the PS3 as well.

I heard bad things about the PC version as it pertains to glitches, I'd stay away from the PC version until they've fixed it.
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By Phoenix.Darriken 2011-11-14 13:32:16
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Odin.Daemun said: »
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Hurray for destroying all my good magic gear in order to learn the enchantments to put them on some decently crafted gear later on...
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Well they asked about making, not upgrading, but good to know..
Trying to keep people from spending perks unnecessarily. Can always make armor better that you pick up once you're high enough lv for it to start showing up.
You would still need to spend the perke on them because if you have the perks, when you upgrade the armor, It makes it even better.
100% based on skill.
No. No it's not. The level of item quality are Fine, Superior, Exquisite, Flawless, Epic and Legendary. The Smithing level to unlock these qualities depends upon whether you have the perk unlocked associated with the item you are refining.
I have done superior upgrades in Dwarven, Elvan and Dragon armor with 0 perks in Smithing. (Currently 38ish I believe) I cannot craft any of these from scratch I know, but I can upgrade them. I am currently using and Orc Mace and Elvan sword (superior) as a matter of fact. Of which I upgraded.

Exactly, you are only making them Superior, while if you had perks, you can make Legendary.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-11-14 13:33:51
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Ifrit.Tulnig said: »
Carbuncle.Joeywheeler said: »
Recommendations PS3 Xbx360 or PC?

I works beautifully on the XBOX 360. I've put in over 30 hours with no issues. I've seen various comments saying it works well on the PS3 as well.

I heard bad things about the PC version as it pertains to glitches, I'd stay away from the PC version until they've fixed it.

theres a glitch if you install on the xbox harddrive regarding textures, ps3 is quite nice though
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By slipispsycho 2011-11-14 13:34:01
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Ifrit.Tulnig said: »
Carbuncle.Joeywheeler said: »
Recommendations PS3 Xbx360 or PC?

I works beautifully on the XBOX 360. I've put in over 30 hours with no issues. I've seen various comments saying it works well on the PS3 as well.

I heard bad things about the PC version as it pertains to glitches, I'd stay away from the PC version until they've fixed it.
Actually, I'm playing on PC and haven't really had any major bugs or glitches. Just really minor things that don't hinder game play.
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By Phoenix.Darriken 2011-11-14 13:34:30
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Cerberus.Irohuro said: »
also if you want to level speech really quick,


Where is Ungrien ? :(
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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-11-14 13:34:37
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I really am having trouble concentrating at work right now. I just keeping reading lore on UESP (Elder Scrolls wiki) and thinking about what I'm going to do when I get home.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-11-14 13:35:22
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Phoenix.Darriken said: »
Odin.Daemun said: »
Sylph.Beelshamen said: »
Odin.Daemun said: »
Phoenix.Darriken said: »
Odin.Daemun said: »
Hurray for destroying all my good magic gear in order to learn the enchantments to put them on some decently crafted gear later on...
Psycho Slip said: »
Well they asked about making, not upgrading, but good to know..
Trying to keep people from spending perks unnecessarily. Can always make armor better that you pick up once you're high enough lv for it to start showing up.
You would still need to spend the perke on them because if you have the perks, when you upgrade the armor, It makes it even better.
100% based on skill.
No. No it's not. The level of item quality are Fine, Superior, Exquisite, Flawless, Epic and Legendary. The Smithing level to unlock these qualities depends upon whether you have the perk unlocked associated with the item you are refining.
I have done superior upgrades in Dwarven, Elvan and Dragon armor with 0 perks in Smithing. (Currently 38ish I believe) I cannot craft any of these from scratch I know, but I can upgrade them. I am currently using and Orc Mace and Elvan sword (superior) as a matter of fact. Of which I upgraded.

Exactly, you are only making them Superior, while if you had perks, you can make Legendary.

no, the tiers of upgrading are by skill level, he's not making legendary because he's only 38. perks ONLY have to do with being able to synth the items.
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