The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

They could add a difficulty for the people who like to max out stats so it's still challenging. It's not like you "regular" players have to play it.

A "hardcore mode" or something would be pretty interesting. Lately I've been playing with fewer enchanted items, not exploit smithing, just using what I find/buy and that's it. It's made things more interesting.

This is relevant I think. Seriously though what's the deal with giants being crazy powerful? Do you even get ***tons of gold or awesome items for taking them down?

Simple answer is this. Trash mobs are trash mobs. If I take 0 enchantments at level 50+ with correct perks, any weapon will pretty much kill anything in under 2 swings. Dragons require a few more, even the ones correctly spawned leveled to you. However when it gets to the point that with no enchantments, you can still 1 shot every mob in a dungeon bar the top two tier mobs, you wonder whats going on. Then you start using getlevel. Without mods, no dungeon can spawn a monster over 50 or 60. Period. Why is this, you can go to 80. Dragons (ancient) spawn level 50. Period. Its a freaking dragon.......and all the glitched enchant gear in the game with 81hp/54%regen can barely save you from one dragon with these mods. The game seems to have cut off at level 50 in terms of monsters. I'm in no way saying this makes the game terrible or what have you, but it feels like the general idea when designing the monsters of the game was either a) so few people will get beyond level 65~ that it wont matter or b) after level 65 you should be god b/c nothing can spawn properly leveled to you anymore! Let me just tell you, level 70+ dragons make just walking around in this game 10x more fun. If you want to duplicate that with vanilla, I guess you could take off all armor and attempt to fist a dragons face in ala the king of sweden.....but when the leveled rule of a mob is it can spawn when you are 1/2-1/3 of its level, is the highest leveled mob a level 50 dragon thats been spawning since I was level 37~, and I'm now level 60+?

Sorry long winded :x Heres a picture of what spawning a buncha lv 70~ mini alduins can do for your enjoyment

On master without crazy enchants on armor and ***its crazy how fast the dragons can own your face easy enough guess its just my version of the game this happens in lol. I have to haul *** out of dragon breath once I took off my HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE gear and couldn't one shot the mofo but had to run and stick arrows in his *** while lydia tanked it guess I got the good version of game or just dropped all the bs exploits that aren't needed if you want a challenge its that easy. Same with draugr lords who can 3 shot me that i have to surprise or kite like a mother lol. Its like do crazy enchants and exploits and play on master or just play on noob its the same game that way lol.

Peeps cry I wear 100% Resist gear and capped defense the game isn't a challenge so make the game have a cap on either and I be happy cause I can't not use the HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE gear. Its pretty easy to not go GOD mode really it is.

In real life you can hunt with a bow or a automatic rifle with super scope and night vision the choice is yours lol...

Well, you can cap -dmg without smithing potions.. its around 560~ armor iirc, which atleast 3 sets are capable of w/o matching set or ancient knowledge. With both of those you can cap any heavy armor set, again, without smithing potions. You can cap -magic with nothing but active effects, 0 enchantments. Falling back on the "dont enchant gear" argument doesn't change the fact that after level 50, nothing in the game is leveled to you the way it was 1-49. Master difficulty is only master if a) you roll true mage b) your level is <50. After that the dmg penalties start to "go away" since youre no longer smacking something 15+ levels higher than you. Level 65+ vs a vanilla ancient dragon is like being level 40~ and having nothing but level 10-15 nq dragons spawning. As I said, its either a "no one will play one char this long" or "you should be god after level 50" situation. I wanted the difficulty of a dragon you described, post level 50. This "fixes" it.

Its choice I had a dragon do that to me yesterday in full nightinggale set way pass 50 lol its pretty easy to make the game as challenging or easy as you want of course you can't be bretons the cheats with natural mr lol.

You don't have to perk the skills to cap its easy to have self control I found easy mode wasn't fun made some changes and most hard encounters are still that hard on master and I may have to reload even a few times lol. Taking zero damage is boring I rather fight in regular clothes for the hell of it lol.

Damn that's how most guys did in FFXI lmao....

Oh and full daedric armor not crazy smithed is only 144 the entire set so not even close to cap lol. http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Daedric_Armor_(Skyrim)

Just a little self control in this game goes a long way and you can still look good doing it....

So much truth! lol

For the people who use mods via nexus site, I really recommend downloading the Nexus mod manager, it's in BETA but it works, and most mods you can download directly with the manager and it'll install everything for you.

Disclaimer: This is my opinion on the whole difficulty and what should be "fixed" thing. Nothing I say here is in any way targeted at any one in this thread or anywhere, it is strictly how I feel about it.



Ok all this talk about the game being too easy or whatnot that you should just quit "exploiting" everything to make it more challenging and use low quality armor makes no sense really. I can understand wanting a challenge in an RPG, but when you have to purposely gimp yourself to have this challenge, it becomes totally stupid.

If they wanted the game to be a challenge by not having strong armor, then they wouldn't have had anything past steel armor in the game for you to use. I shouldn't have to tone down what is possible by totally legit means of armor smithing, improvement, and enchanting just to have a challenge.

Everyone calling using a set of alchemy/smithing gear to make an enchanting/smithing potion to help you improve your stuff an exploit makes no sense. Using just 100 enchanting to make your base set of smithing/alchemy gear is completely legit, it is by no means abusing a system.

Now using that gear you just made with your 100 enchanting to make an enchanting/smithing potion is still part of the game as it was coded from the start, nothing breaking the basic design yet. For you are still on Tier 1 of potions. However, if you go further to use those enchanting potions you just made to make another set of alchemy/smithing gear for a stronger enchantment, that could be getting into the cycle of exploiting.

Using the dual-headpiece trick is indeed an exploit. Though using just your base gear from 100 enchanting/alchemy/smithing (plus relevant perks), and the enchanting/smithing potion you made with said gear to make/improve your battle armor is all part of the game as they have made it, nothing abusing a system at this step.

With this armor (assuming elven/dwarven even), you should not be able to destroy everything in the game on master difficulty. As Demomo said, enemies level capping at most of 60 is stupid when you yourself can go to 80. Us "non-regular" players should be able to have a challenge as well without resorting to gimping ourselves back to HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE *** armor choices and completely ignoring certain aspects of the game to do so. Such as not using certain enchantments or enchantments all together.

All this said, it is still just an RPG, not an MMO, every person can play their own game however they see fit, it's your world, you play it as you will it. If using only steel armor and not any form of smithing, enchanting, alchemy is your "cup of tea", then so be it. But those of us who like to have the best armor, best enchantments, best potions, etc. shouldn't have to resort to the other play style just to get a challenge.

I myself play the game in a fairly unique way too, (well I think it's unique xD). I'm still on my first character, he's a "do all the things" type. Where I use smithing, enchanting, alchemy gear/potions to make my battle armor and potions and do all guilds, working on doing every side-quest possible in the game, etc. I myself am level 67 where basically nothing can kill me, even Alduin (first fight) only took my health down by maybe a 1/10th of my max and he "died" in around 6 or 7 hits of my sword. Was it a challenge? No. But it was still fun for it is my first play through, I still don't know the story or what's going to happen next. I myself have no problem being a "god" on this character, after all, you are Dovahkiin! You're the the baddest bad *** in all of Skyrim, able to slay any dragon and STEAL IT'S SOUL! You tell me if that doesn't sound like you might supposed to become a god among men, in a sense. You're even the first one in over 500 years or so (I forget the exact). Live the legend I say. :P

Also, my most favourite shout would probably be either Dragonrend or Clear Skies. Clear skies at level 3 does a mini knockback, like level one Unrelenting Force, staggering the enemy and it's the fastest recharging shout in the game.

Edit~ As for the game *** up a lot on PS3, maybe 360 too, idk. All I can say is, get it on PC! I rarely ever have any trouble with my game on PC, to me it seems this game was designed for PC and then just ported to console. Now if you don't have a PC that can run it (which isn't hard, my PC only cost $2200 5 years ago and runs it on a modified medium-high setting), you're probably ***out of luck for a while.

1.3 is really pissing me off. I had no issues with 1.1, only mresist calculation issues with 1.2, and now 1.3 is causing freezes every hour or so. Thanks, Bethesda, for making my play experience progressively worse with every patch.

PS3 version.

for me it either freezes during the first 30 mins of play or it wont throughout the entire 4+hours i put into it. but it has frozen 4 times since friday. =/ which it never use to. maybe once i remember..

also has anyone else had a dragon kamikaze into the side of a mountain and no be able to move towards them? he was still alive xD i guess just.. a "Special Dragon" and didnt move after ramming Face first into the mountain

My cousin invited me over to watch him play Skyrim last night, which I should have known was a stupid idea. While he was loading he was talking about how he had an "ultra-badass" longsword that was one shotting everything. As he loaded up I noticed he was level 11 and he shows me the weapon was a silver greatsword. He was one hitting everything and my mind was boggled. Sometimes he would walk up to enemies and they wouldn't even act until he stabbed them. So I asked what difficulty he was on... "The most fun way to play is to play it on the easiest difficulty".

I returned his Christmas gifts this morning.

Yep super noob mode or master with retardedly exploited gear = same game lol....

You don't have to exploit your gear to have that happen.
Odds are if you take the time to level enchanting and smithing to 100 your gear is ridiculous enough as is without even having to cycle 300x of potion making to finally get the super OMGWTF gear.

Sheesh still...

If you improve any weapon when you're 100% naked without using potions with proper smithing level, that weapon will be capable of 1 shotting anything considered "trash".

If you do the same with a set of daedric, ebony, or dragon armor (possibly glass too) you'll break the damage reduction cap.

You said you run full nightigale. Because of the added set bonus, guess what, 4 voidsalts later, you can cap -dmg in that set too.

Why do we keep considering crafting to be exploiting? And on the subject, you cannot improve potions more than 2 rounds. This holds true with Icancraftallthethings mod that lets you put any enchantment anywhere. Even with +alch on every gear slot you can only improve your base potions to a fixed point. This makes me think it was known well in advance that it was possible to do this and limitations were put in place to prevent over abuse. Why else would there be a mathematical cap on it?

I'm with Demomo and Rulerofdarkness. The whole point of the game is to offer a unique and immersive experience. Forcing players to shun large aspects of the game in order to get their desired difficulty (a very big part of the experience) is poor design at best because you end up sacrificing one part of the game for the sake of another when the game otherwise implies that you can have both. It breaks immersion and hampers your enjoyment of the game.

I also found it quite HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE that i can put "destruction/restoration spells cost 25% less to cast" on 4 items... say hello to free magic... that and elemental fury with Deadric weapons is rape.

Just annoying that the all powerful and feared dragons can be taken out by normal mobs. like 5 bandits shouldn't be able to kill a dragon XD and Bandit chiefs give me more of a hassle than dragons..

For the first 100 hours I thought Skyrim was the best game I had ever played. Better than tecmo bowl. Better than FFVI. Better than Mario Kart. I went in totally blind and didn't look ANYTHING up on the internet so every minor puzzle was a challenge. But when I hit 100 smithing/alchemy/enchanting and made awesome gear I found myself playing an hour a day instead of 6 hours a day. It was just incredibly boring to figure out you could do "something" to a certain "something" in blackreach and then one shot the ensuing encounter with a bow and arrow. That should have been an epic fight.

Some of those early camps were brutal. I would have to run away every 20% of an enemy's health. It was great fun. I felt like I had been punished for making my character better. It was like using the invis/xzone tactic in FFVI except there was no way to do anything else.

Random request after I've spent 2 hrs+ in console attempting to fix the Larceny side jobs. I looted the eye of falmer before turning in any of the objectives, and as some might know, this setstage 200's the quest. Does anyone have the larceny quest completed (all 7 stolen items) and feel like posting a ss so I can see if I can ghetto lock the items where theyre supposed to be. Just finished all 75 TG side missions just to finish the Larceny display and I feel so robbed that I cant put 3/7 items on the shelves now :x

it only takes 2-3 times of potion -> enchant -> potion to make the best possible crafting gear. Even then it's not THAT much better than the vanilla enchanted gear.

Discovered something hilariously stupid.
Found a noble on his horse and a guard treading through the wilderness, and being the homicidal kleptomaniac that I am, I murdered the guard and the noble, but noticed I still had a bounty in the middle of nowhere.

Who else could possibly be the witness?
You guessed it...

100% true for me, I was pretty derp when I started playing and put all my perks in stupid stuff, meriting stamina, so the game was ridiculously hard for me, like saber cats would two shot me and crap lol. It took me an hour to fight a blood dragon, and I could only win by dragging it into a town or hiding and letting Lydia kill it lol. So I then leveled blacksmith, enchanting, alchemy and wasn't stupid with my perks anymore, then the game really easy, like I DESTROYED the end boss, made me :'< So I've been playing Ico/FFXI now lol

I can understand people being disappointed with the difficulty while using methods even on a non-exploitive level. It's a legitimate function to create crafting gear sets and even stack improvements upon one another to gain even better potions and whatnot.

However, my source of fun comes from being in character with what I choose to create. Similar to the whole Felix the Pacifist Cat, I make a certain mindset and course of action to befit unique and interesting characters I make. Unfortunately it has it's limitations, and willingly limiting yourself and your growth combined with increased difficulty should be something addressed at some point.

also a funny lil bug i ran into. i was at a silver-hand fort and there was a wolf on the opposite side of the cell walking into the door...

so to clarify. he was free.. but wanted back in his cell >.> wouldnt even attack me. so i stabbed him.. anyways it was just silly to see.

though im easy to amuse.. like in one of the old Medal of Honor games when you went undercover on a ship and the guards kept asking you for your papers.. i would just constantly say "Here my papers" *pulls out gun and shoots guard in face*... "***." idk... prolly spent a couple hours doing that >.>

Reminds me of one of the first Medal of Honor games where the friendly AI would scream as if they fell off a cliff for anything the height of a curb or more. Was amusing to see him step off not even a foot and be like AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!