Occultation

50 minute recast time is pretty bad.

The mitigation that stoneskin and phalanx afford stacks up on AoE pulls.

Oh not saying it doesn't help... but the main reason is aquaviel. Hell even the protect II helps so I use it but meh

Some form of phalanx on BLU would be amazing. Tired of /RDMing for Whiskerburns since I generally Pull/Sleep/Kill solo lol.

If you are using /rdm only for phalanx, you are doing it wrong. I don't even cast that spell generally out of laziness and never have problems. /RDM's main asset is convert, and traits you would otherwise need to waste points on that could go to better use.

If your using convert during a whisker burn then tour doing it wrong since there will almost always be a restore chest in every pull.

I meant that phalanx is one of the overdue buffs BLU should have by now that we don't.

Implying there's a better sub for cleaving or that /rdm isn't good enough.


Almost always isn't always and I meant /rdm overall.

Magma Hoplon would be so nice :D but farming it would be an abortion :/

aquaveil,Phalanx,convert,and MAB trait.....only reason i use /rdm xD

50 seconds...didnt put the right units on it.....but meh D:

Always thought the same but I read somewhere that you can already get 9 shadows with 445 bluemagic skill.
can anyone confirm this?

Tested Occultation with 489 skill, still gave me 9 shadows. missing 2 skill from Relic +2 head, 3 skill from Relic +2 feet and 2 from antican ring for max skill (496)
Does anyone have these items and could test occultation with max skill? would like to know if we can get 10 shadows

Bump, would love to know if 10 shadows can be obtained - and if it is, would it be worth it in lieu of a solid haste set with 9 shadows.

Obviously, it would be worth it when prepping for a battle, but in the midst of a fight, I'd bet that hasted 9 shadows would be more useful.

Barrier Tusk is phalanx (15%), not as good as RDM phalanx though.

Barrier tusk is not phalanx. It calls it phalanx but it's just DT applied after normal DT.

Atm I believe it is impossible to obtain 500 skill, that should leave us with enough space to get to 450 and a good, if not even capped recast.



DT that breaks the 50 cap, right? Making it situationally really nice, and depending on what's hitting you better than RDM Phalanx.

The maximum skill currently attainable is 494 or 496, something around there. Until we get a couple more options, we won't be able to reach the 10th Occultation shadow.

1 Shadow = 50 Skill

Sadly we only get to 496(499 in salvage) skill unless i'm missing a piece somewhere

cap is: 424
merits: 16
Body: 15
legs: 15
head: 7
Ring: 2
Tathlum: 5
hands: 5
neck: 4
salvage waist: 3
feet: 3
...

Isn't there blu skill on one of the new sash's added on the level 95 update?
Havn't really checked

It does break cap but only in the sense that because it is applied after standard damage reduction. It is a separate term in the damage calculation. Here's some numbers, all include 50% pdt.
A: is how barrier tusk currently works.
B: is if it stacked with the PDT for a total of 65% pdt.
C: is if it gave a 17 phalanx reduction.
D: is if it gave a 30 phalanx reduction.
Negative number indicates 0 damage.

Base Damage:	25	50	100	200	500	1000
After PDT:	12.5	25	50	100	250	500
A:	10.625	21.25	42.5	85	212.5	425
B:	8.75	17.5	35	70	175	350
C:	-4.5	8	33	83	233	483
D:	-17.5	-5	20	70	220	470

The nice thing about "real" phalanx is the ability to reduce damage down below the phalanx threshold and be able to tank a massive amount of mobs while taking little to no damage and not giving them tp for hitting you.

Also, the fact that it takes 6 freaking seconds to cast and only lasts a minute reduces it's utility. I don't like setting it even while tanking. Phalanx only takes 3 seconds and lasts for 3 minutes.

Edit: These forums don't like tab formatting...

Clarification as to how Barrier Tusk is added to damage taken to go with Sekundes' post, how he got those numbers:

1000 Damage, 50% PDT = 500 damage taken
500 * 0.85 = 425

etc.

As Sekundes said, it isn't as useful on most things when compared to a real Phalanx. When it is more valuable than Phalanx, the casting time and duration cripple it.

Augmented Blood Greaves can get up to 5 skill, but still only puts you at 498 outside Salvage.

nope :(

Thats the reason I like it, you need to run into something that spams aoe, you have shellraV and a hybrid pdt/mdt set for a LOT of damage reduction. Hardly ever set it outside of voidwatch, temps down situation.

And I perfectly agree that for tons of mobs, like CW burns, Phalanx is so much better.

Sorry for the prolonged OT I'll stop :)

For a second my eyes shined.

I made that somewhat confusing but "B" is not how Barrier tusk works. Those were for comparison. "A" is how barrier tusk works and the others are just comparing it to other ways they could have made it work but didn't. The purpose was to show that for most situations the way they made it provides the least benefit and you have to be taking some pretty heavy damage to make it compare.

That being said, it does make a difference but my main qualm with it is the duration and cast time. You spend a tenth of your time casting it if you want it up full time.

kinda lame that we only stop at 499.. time to augment :D

Sweet jesus, extra shadow in salvage yussss.

how about now is this even worth trying to get lol? I know that most of these items are not that hard to get except for the new hexed hands and hoping abj drops. but take a look at this new set:



edit: as far as those items the feet have 4 skill on them.

I'm gonna say the added inv on an already incredibly gear intensive job as blu for 1 more shadow that's almost certainly going to be wiped by an AOE before it gets used, is not worth the effort/inv space.

magus jubbah + mavi tayt +2 and call it a day at 9 shadows. (add 1 more peice if you don't merit blu magic, -1 if you merit it to cap.)

I kinda think it'll be worse since you're likely going to get 1 more shadow at the expense of recast time due to all the haste you have to drop.

As has already been stated, loss of inventory space and recast time isn't worth the 1 extra shadow that you aren't very likely to be able to take advantage of anyway.

Speaking of skill+ sets does magic barrier have a cap? or would that set be worth carrying for it? (whenever magic barrier might be desirable.)

On the subject, can this spell be learned From Livid Seether?