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NJ Legislation Bans TSA Scanners + more
 Ramuh.Vinvv
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-07 13:06:17
Phoenix.Huginn said: Phoenix.Kojo said: Except for the guy masturbating to the scans.. Don't you think this is getting a bit outta hand? Do any of you guys actually fly anywhere? The scanner sends a non-detailed scan to a closed room where a guy may or may not be jerking it, no one actually sees it, you and the viewer never come face-to-face, and it's alot faster than individual pat-downs. what do you mean "non-detailed?" the images released to the public as well as those pilfered from the federal courthouse (with matching normal picture) in orlando are degraded from what the actual scan shows. the guys in the back with < hands > in < trousers >, < jerkin > are looking at crystal clear 3d images of you with a single color (shaded for detail) skin. they basically see you naked but with a thin layer of body paint how do you know this?
not trying to "prove you wrong", in the least so don't go on a tangent explaining your values, specifically where did you get this information, I am curious about that.
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By Cerberus.Kalyna 2010-12-07 13:06:35
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: USA is filled with a bunch of idiots who think "oh they won't attack us via airplane again"
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-yemen-planned-northwest-flight-253-bomb-plot/story?id=9426085
2009 christmas -- attempted bombing plot that ALMOST made it.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/11/11/ink-cartridge-bomb-found-at-east-midlands-could-have-exploded-over-america-115875-22708013/
Even tho it was probably faked, it still became an issue. what if someone did smuggle a bomb on a plane that way?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/8113296/Asian-man-boards-plane-disguised-as-old-white-man.html
that's how easy it is to get on board a plane ELSEWHERE
So seriously, do you really think terrorists are thinking "We already used the plane, let's not do it again"?
Terrorist are Terrorist, they'll use ANYTHING to attack us, whether it's anthrax, planes, car bombs, so on. They'll keep doing it whether you *** like it or not. TSA scanners help the chances of such things from happening become lower than it was before they adopted it.
You idiots need to think before you get pissed off. They did that for YOUR own safety. If you have nothing on you, then you shouldn't even be worried about it for the slightest bit. Do you just want it gone because you, yourself, are a terrorist?
you had a good point until this, and quite frankly you are *** stupid for saying it.
People don't like the scanners because they'd rather deal with a possible threat than having their personal liberties violated, and I applaud them for it, that's the kind of thing America was founded on, and that's true American value, not being pussies being afraid of some nut jobs that want to kill us, the governments job is to eliminate the threat, not violate our liberties at a slim chance to deter it. lol I know it's because of personal liberties being violated, I just wanted to point out that if they don't abide by the new safety, then give them an Idea on what TSA and the government might think about that certain individual when they make a huge fit about it, like that one radio talk show host girl.
You're going on a plane, for pete sake. You're going high in the sky where it'll take more than a good while for help to arrive IF there's a terrorist on your plane mid-flight. They're trying to prevent that. You getting in the way of it makes you look like a terrorist yourself (that's the point i was trying to make)
1. no way in these measures is preventing a terrorist from getting on a plane, it limits what they can do on one but it is not preventing one from getting on.
2. no it isn't and you're stupid for suggesting it is. (that is the point) I don't think they'd let you on the plane if you refuse to get scanned. (From what I've been seeing and reading). So if it prevents a terrorist from boarding a plane (either when he gets caught during the scanning or refuses) then all is good. Of course, It's all random so there is the chance of him boarding the plane.
Needs stricter rules. I think everybody should be scanned or patted down.
Besides, as someone pointed out earlier, flying on an airplane isn't your freedom nor is it your right, it's a privilege. Just like driving a car or motorcycle. I think they should start patting down kids at highschools so they don't have any more Columbines.
>.>
<.< /agrees
and Colleges (virginia tech)
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-07 13:07:34
Cerberus.Kalyna said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: USA is filled with a bunch of idiots who think "oh they won't attack us via airplane again"
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-yemen-planned-northwest-flight-253-bomb-plot/story?id=9426085
2009 christmas -- attempted bombing plot that ALMOST made it.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/11/11/ink-cartridge-bomb-found-at-east-midlands-could-have-exploded-over-america-115875-22708013/
Even tho it was probably faked, it still became an issue. what if someone did smuggle a bomb on a plane that way?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/8113296/Asian-man-boards-plane-disguised-as-old-white-man.html
that's how easy it is to get on board a plane ELSEWHERE
So seriously, do you really think terrorists are thinking "We already used the plane, let's not do it again"?
Terrorist are Terrorist, they'll use ANYTHING to attack us, whether it's anthrax, planes, car bombs, so on. They'll keep doing it whether you *** like it or not. TSA scanners help the chances of such things from happening become lower than it was before they adopted it.
You idiots need to think before you get pissed off. They did that for YOUR own safety. If you have nothing on you, then you shouldn't even be worried about it for the slightest bit. Do you just want it gone because you, yourself, are a terrorist?
you had a good point until this, and quite frankly you are *** stupid for saying it.
People don't like the scanners because they'd rather deal with a possible threat than having their personal liberties violated, and I applaud them for it, that's the kind of thing America was founded on, and that's true American value, not being pussies being afraid of some nut jobs that want to kill us, the governments job is to eliminate the threat, not violate our liberties at a slim chance to deter it. lol I know it's because of personal liberties being violated, I just wanted to point out that if they don't abide by the new safety, then give them an Idea on what TSA and the government might think about that certain individual when they make a huge fit about it, like that one radio talk show host girl.
You're going on a plane, for pete sake. You're going high in the sky where it'll take more than a good while for help to arrive IF there's a terrorist on your plane mid-flight. They're trying to prevent that. You getting in the way of it makes you look like a terrorist yourself (that's the point i was trying to make)
1. no way in these measures is preventing a terrorist from getting on a plane, it limits what they can do on one but it is not preventing one from getting on.
2. no it isn't and you're stupid for suggesting it is. (that is the point) I don't think they'd let you on the plane if you refuse to get scanned. (From what I've been seeing and reading). So if it prevents a terrorist from boarding a plane (either when he gets caught during the scanning or refuses) then all is good. Of course, It's all random so there is the chance of him boarding the plane.
Needs stricter rules. I think everybody should be scanned or patted down.
Besides, as someone pointed out earlier, flying on an airplane isn't your freedom nor is it your right, it's a privilege. Just like driving a car or motorcycle. I think they should start patting down kids at highschools so they don't have any more Columbines.
>.>
<.< /agrees
and Colleges (virginia tech) and preschools too.
they could strap bombs to the toddlers.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-12-07 13:08:12
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: USA is filled with a bunch of idiots who think "oh they won't attack us via airplane again"
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-yemen-planned-northwest-flight-253-bomb-plot/story?id=9426085
2009 christmas -- attempted bombing plot that ALMOST made it.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/11/11/ink-cartridge-bomb-found-at-east-midlands-could-have-exploded-over-america-115875-22708013/
Even tho it was probably faked, it still became an issue. what if someone did smuggle a bomb on a plane that way?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/8113296/Asian-man-boards-plane-disguised-as-old-white-man.html
that's how easy it is to get on board a plane ELSEWHERE
So seriously, do you really think terrorists are thinking "We already used the plane, let's not do it again"?
Terrorist are Terrorist, they'll use ANYTHING to attack us, whether it's anthrax, planes, car bombs, so on. They'll keep doing it whether you *** like it or not. TSA scanners help the chances of such things from happening become lower than it was before they adopted it.
You idiots need to think before you get pissed off. They did that for YOUR own safety. If you have nothing on you, then you shouldn't even be worried about it for the slightest bit. Do you just want it gone because you, yourself, are a terrorist?
you had a good point until this, and quite frankly you are *** stupid for saying it.
People don't like the scanners because they'd rather deal with a possible threat than having their personal liberties violated, and I applaud them for it, that's the kind of thing America was founded on, and that's true American value, not being pussies being afraid of some nut jobs that want to kill us, the governments job is to eliminate the threat, not violate our liberties at a slim chance to deter it. lol I know it's because of personal liberties being violated, I just wanted to point out that if they don't abide by the new safety, then give them an Idea on what TSA and the government might think about that certain individual when they make a huge fit about it, like that one radio talk show host girl.
You're going on a plane, for pete sake. You're going high in the sky where it'll take more than a good while for help to arrive IF there's a terrorist on your plane mid-flight. They're trying to prevent that. You getting in the way of it makes you look like a terrorist yourself (that's the point i was trying to make)
1. no way in these measures is preventing a terrorist from getting on a plane, it limits what they can do on one but it is not preventing one from getting on.
2. no it isn't and you're stupid for suggesting it is. (that is the point) I don't think they'd let you on the plane if you refuse to get scanned. (From what I've been seeing and reading). So if it prevents a terrorist from boarding a plane (either when he gets caught during the scanning or refuses) then all is good. Of course, It's all random so there is the chance of him boarding the plane.
Needs stricter rules. I think everybody should be scanned or patted down.
Besides, as someone pointed out earlier, flying on an airplane isn't your freedom nor is it your right, it's a privilege. Just like driving a car or motorcycle. I think they should start patting down kids at highschools so they don't have any more Columbines.
>.>
<.< /agrees
and Colleges (virginia tech) and preschools too.
they could strap bombs to the toddlers. while we're at it, lets get the pre-schoolers. The bombs they drop in their pants can lead to nerve gas.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-12-07 13:08:13
Cerberus.Kalyna said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: USA is filled with a bunch of idiots who think "oh they won't attack us via airplane again"
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-yemen-planned-northwest-flight-253-bomb-plot/story?id=9426085
2009 christmas -- attempted bombing plot that ALMOST made it.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/11/11/ink-cartridge-bomb-found-at-east-midlands-could-have-exploded-over-america-115875-22708013/
Even tho it was probably faked, it still became an issue. what if someone did smuggle a bomb on a plane that way?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/8113296/Asian-man-boards-plane-disguised-as-old-white-man.html
that's how easy it is to get on board a plane ELSEWHERE
So seriously, do you really think terrorists are thinking "We already used the plane, let's not do it again"?
Terrorist are Terrorist, they'll use ANYTHING to attack us, whether it's anthrax, planes, car bombs, so on. They'll keep doing it whether you *** like it or not. TSA scanners help the chances of such things from happening become lower than it was before they adopted it.
You idiots need to think before you get pissed off. They did that for YOUR own safety. If you have nothing on you, then you shouldn't even be worried about it for the slightest bit. Do you just want it gone because you, yourself, are a terrorist?
you had a good point until this, and quite frankly you are *** stupid for saying it.
People don't like the scanners because they'd rather deal with a possible threat than having their personal liberties violated, and I applaud them for it, that's the kind of thing America was founded on, and that's true American value, not being pussies being afraid of some nut jobs that want to kill us, the governments job is to eliminate the threat, not violate our liberties at a slim chance to deter it. lol I know it's because of personal liberties being violated, I just wanted to point out that if they don't abide by the new safety, then give them an Idea on what TSA and the government might think about that certain individual when they make a huge fit about it, like that one radio talk show host girl.
You're going on a plane, for pete sake. You're going high in the sky where it'll take more than a good while for help to arrive IF there's a terrorist on your plane mid-flight. They're trying to prevent that. You getting in the way of it makes you look like a terrorist yourself (that's the point i was trying to make)
1. no way in these measures is preventing a terrorist from getting on a plane, it limits what they can do on one but it is not preventing one from getting on.
2. no it isn't and you're stupid for suggesting it is. (that is the point) I don't think they'd let you on the plane if you refuse to get scanned. (From what I've been seeing and reading). So if it prevents a terrorist from boarding a plane (either when he gets caught during the scanning or refuses) then all is good. Of course, It's all random so there is the chance of him boarding the plane.
Needs stricter rules. I think everybody should be scanned or patted down.
Besides, as someone pointed out earlier, flying on an airplane isn't your freedom nor is it your right, it's a privilege. Just like driving a car or motorcycle. I think they should start patting down kids at highschools so they don't have any more Columbines.
>.>
<.< /agrees
and Colleges (virginia tech)
*** Virginia Tech
and to the TSA thing, it is your right to not be illegally searched, these methods are violating your right, and I'm glad NJ is taking steps to prevent it's citizens rights from being violated and the molesters will be prosecuted if they continue these violations of an individuals rights. As to the right to fly thing, you have a right to do anything as long as you aren't violating another person's rights or there isn't a law (federal or state, or locality) against it. TSA regulation =/= law.
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2010-12-07 13:09:30
Cerberus.Kalyna said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: USA is filled with a bunch of idiots who think "oh they won't attack us via airplane again"
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-yemen-planned-northwest-flight-253-bomb-plot/story?id=9426085
2009 christmas -- attempted bombing plot that ALMOST made it.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/11/11/ink-cartridge-bomb-found-at-east-midlands-could-have-exploded-over-america-115875-22708013/
Even tho it was probably faked, it still became an issue. what if someone did smuggle a bomb on a plane that way?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/8113296/Asian-man-boards-plane-disguised-as-old-white-man.html
that's how easy it is to get on board a plane ELSEWHERE
So seriously, do you really think terrorists are thinking "We already used the plane, let's not do it again"?
Terrorist are Terrorist, they'll use ANYTHING to attack us, whether it's anthrax, planes, car bombs, so on. They'll keep doing it whether you *** like it or not. TSA scanners help the chances of such things from happening become lower than it was before they adopted it.
You idiots need to think before you get pissed off. They did that for YOUR own safety. If you have nothing on you, then you shouldn't even be worried about it for the slightest bit. Do you just want it gone because you, yourself, are a terrorist?
you had a good point until this, and quite frankly you are *** stupid for saying it.
People don't like the scanners because they'd rather deal with a possible threat than having their personal liberties violated, and I applaud them for it, that's the kind of thing America was founded on, and that's true American value, not being pussies being afraid of some nut jobs that want to kill us, the governments job is to eliminate the threat, not violate our liberties at a slim chance to deter it. lol I know it's because of personal liberties being violated, I just wanted to point out that if they don't abide by the new safety, then give them an Idea on what TSA and the government might think about that certain individual when they make a huge fit about it, like that one radio talk show host girl.
You're going on a plane, for pete sake. You're going high in the sky where it'll take more than a good while for help to arrive IF there's a terrorist on your plane mid-flight. They're trying to prevent that. You getting in the way of it makes you look like a terrorist yourself (that's the point i was trying to make)
1. no way in these measures is preventing a terrorist from getting on a plane, it limits what they can do on one but it is not preventing one from getting on.
2. no it isn't and you're stupid for suggesting it is. (that is the point) I don't think they'd let you on the plane if you refuse to get scanned. (From what I've been seeing and reading). So if it prevents a terrorist from boarding a plane (either when he gets caught during the scanning or refuses) then all is good. Of course, It's all random so there is the chance of him boarding the plane.
Needs stricter rules. I think everybody should be scanned or patted down.
Besides, as someone pointed out earlier, flying on an airplane isn't your freedom nor is it your right, it's a privilege. Just like driving a car or motorcycle. I think they should start patting down kids at highschools so they don't have any more Columbines.
>.>
<.< /agrees
and Colleges (virginia tech)
Oh yeah, for sure. It's not like schools have a metric *** of doors. OH ***! WHAT HAPPENS IF I DON'T EVEN GO IN THE GODDAMNED BUILDING OH ***WHAT NOW? ***, WE BETTER INSPECT PEOPLE BEFORE THEY LEAVE THEIR HOUSE! Oh noes... they might come close to another person somewhere between school and home... ***guys... what now?
Edit: Seriously.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-07 13:09:38
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: USA is filled with a bunch of idiots who think "oh they won't attack us via airplane again"
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-yemen-planned-northwest-flight-253-bomb-plot/story?id=9426085
2009 christmas -- attempted bombing plot that ALMOST made it.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/11/11/ink-cartridge-bomb-found-at-east-midlands-could-have-exploded-over-america-115875-22708013/
Even tho it was probably faked, it still became an issue. what if someone did smuggle a bomb on a plane that way?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/8113296/Asian-man-boards-plane-disguised-as-old-white-man.html
that's how easy it is to get on board a plane ELSEWHERE
So seriously, do you really think terrorists are thinking "We already used the plane, let's not do it again"?
Terrorist are Terrorist, they'll use ANYTHING to attack us, whether it's anthrax, planes, car bombs, so on. They'll keep doing it whether you *** like it or not. TSA scanners help the chances of such things from happening become lower than it was before they adopted it.
You idiots need to think before you get pissed off. They did that for YOUR own safety. If you have nothing on you, then you shouldn't even be worried about it for the slightest bit. Do you just want it gone because you, yourself, are a terrorist?
you had a good point until this, and quite frankly you are *** stupid for saying it.
People don't like the scanners because they'd rather deal with a possible threat than having their personal liberties violated, and I applaud them for it, that's the kind of thing America was founded on, and that's true American value, not being pussies being afraid of some nut jobs that want to kill us, the governments job is to eliminate the threat, not violate our liberties at a slim chance to deter it. lol I know it's because of personal liberties being violated, I just wanted to point out that if they don't abide by the new safety, then give them an Idea on what TSA and the government might think about that certain individual when they make a huge fit about it, like that one radio talk show host girl.
You're going on a plane, for pete sake. You're going high in the sky where it'll take more than a good while for help to arrive IF there's a terrorist on your plane mid-flight. They're trying to prevent that. You getting in the way of it makes you look like a terrorist yourself (that's the point i was trying to make)
1. no way in these measures is preventing a terrorist from getting on a plane, it limits what they can do on one but it is not preventing one from getting on.
2. no it isn't and you're stupid for suggesting it is. (that is the point) I don't think they'd let you on the plane if you refuse to get scanned. (From what I've been seeing and reading). So if it prevents a terrorist from boarding a plane (either when he gets caught during the scanning or refuses) then all is good. Of course, It's all random so there is the chance of him boarding the plane.
Needs stricter rules. I think everybody should be scanned or patted down.
Besides, as someone pointed out earlier, flying on an airplane isn't your freedom nor is it your right, it's a privilege. Just like driving a car or motorcycle. I think they should start patting down kids at highschools so they don't have any more Columbines.
>.>
<.< /agrees
and Colleges (virginia tech) and preschools too.
they could strap bombs to the toddlers. while we're at it, lets get the pre-schoolers. The bombs they drop in their pants can lead to nerve gas. we might as well start covering retirement communities and assisted living facilities as well.
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damn-it terminus beat me to my next idea.
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2010-12-07 13:11:47
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
edit:
damn-it terminus beat me to my next idea.
Sorry. Just hopping in here to spread random common sense. I gotta get back to work though, so it's all yours... after I make sure you didn't bring a gun to this thread >.>
PS yes I will level my *** dancer subjob. I don't need any more IMs! (@ everyone, not Vinvv)
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-07 13:13:36
Fenrir.Terminus said: Ramuh.Vinvv said:
edit:
damn-it terminus beat me to my next idea.
Sorry. Just hopping in here to spread random common sense. I gotta get back to work though, so it's all yours... after I make sure you didn't bring a gun to this thread >.>
PS yes I will level my *** dancer subjob. I don't need any more IMs! (@ everyone, not Vinvv) do you need to give me a brain pat down?
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By Phoenix.Mogue 2010-12-07 13:15:06
dear dumbshits,
read the constitution.
sincerely,
mogue
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By Luz 2010-12-07 13:15:42
One thing real quick. There's a difference between attacks on airlines and school shootings. Once the terrorists have control of an airliner or blow it up, there's nothing you can do to save the lives of the people onboard. Once someone starts shooting up a school, everyone goes inside and locks their doors and the police come to deal with it. Granted he may have hostages, there's still preventive actions that can be taken to control the damage of the attack. When there is thousands of feet between you and the ground, there isn't. Different types of attacks require different precautions.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-07 13:17:24
who's a dumbshit?
did posting a wiki link make you feel better about yourself?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-07 13:18:07
Luz said: One thing real quick. There's a difference between attacks on airlines and school shootings. Once the terrorists have control of an airliner or blow it up, there's nothing you can do to save the lives of the people onboard. Once someone starts shooting up a school, everyone goes inside and locks their doors and the police come to deal with it. Granted he may have hostages, there's still preventive actions that can be taken to control the damage of the attack. When there is thousands of feet between you and the ground, there isn't. Different types of attacks require different precautions. so are you saying pat-downs wouldn't help to prevent shooters to enter the building?
it's not like they are patting them down and scanning them on the plane man.
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By Phoenix.Mogue 2010-12-07 13:18:53
Anyone who thinks New Jersey can do anything about the TSA.
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By Ragnarok.Zanno 2010-12-07 13:19:05
Phoenix.Kojo said: Bismarck.Pawnskipper said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Now we know who to blame for the next terrorist attack. What do you mean by "next" terror attack? When was the first? lmao
You realise it's been 9 years since 9/11. 9 years without TSA sexually assaults people in the name of freedom. How many terrorists have hi-jacked airplanes in the U.S and crashed them in to buildings since 9/11?
As far as I know, none.
nine years later this whole bs with TSA shows up. And all of a sudden everyone's a terrorist who's gonna hi-jack planes?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-07 13:21:04
Ragnarok.Zanno said: Phoenix.Kojo said: Bismarck.Pawnskipper said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Now we know who to blame for the next terrorist attack. What do you mean by "next" terror attack? When was the first? lmao
You realise it's been 9 years since 9/11. 9 years without TSA sexually assaults people in the name of freedom. How many terrorists have hi-jacked airplanes in the U.S and crashed them in to buildings since 9/11?
As far as I know, none.
nine years later this whole bs with TSA shows up. And all of a sudden everyone's a terrorist who's gonna hi-jack planes?
I'm pretty sure the TSA has been there and groping people for quite a while, it's just 9 years later everyone decides to make a big stink about it.
They didn't make a big deal about it after 9/11 because we were being protected against the tourists, the only thing different is that the sheeples have a different target to project their disdain and fears towards since they didn't really do all that well with the whole osama deal.
i'm not saying it's outrageous to be outraged by this.
i think it's just kind a funny that there are so many flip-flops floating around in the states.
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By Phoenix.Mogue 2010-12-07 13:21:47
Ramuh.Vinvv said: who's a dumbshit? did posting a wiki link make you feel better about yourself?
To respond to your ninja edit
I'm sorry if facts make it hard for certain posters to feel good about circle jerking to their own ignorance.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-07 13:22:50
Phoenix.Mogue said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: who's a dumbshit? did posting a wiki link make you feel better about yourself?
To respond to your ninja edit
I'm sorry if facts make it hard for certain posters to feel good about circle jerking to their own ignorance. So did it make you feel better about yourself?
I read your link, but if I were to be a "dumbfuck"(or if you weren't referring to me, but the "dumbfucks"), wouldn't I/they need you to explain it to me?
You get more flies with honey.
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By Bahamut.Lolserj 2010-12-07 13:24:23
well this is good news
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2010-12-07 13:24:41
Mogue, if this is the beginning of a snowball effect across states, then yes New Jersey will have effectively done something about the TSA.
If it is not, then you might be right.
I'm expecting other states to follow suit. Not all of them, but some probably will.
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By Ragnarok.Zanno 2010-12-07 13:25:03
Besides, since only america have the HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE "security" system, what prevents a terrorist from boarding a plane in, italy for an example, hi-jacking it before it lands on american soil and crash that mofo in to whatever building they feel like?
Or does all terrorists board planes in america at all times?
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By Cerberus.Kalyna 2010-12-07 13:25:20
Ragnarok.Zanno said: Phoenix.Kojo said: Bismarck.Pawnskipper said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Now we know who to blame for the next terrorist attack. What do you mean by "next" terror attack? When was the first? lmao
You realise it's been 9 years since 9/11. 9 years without TSA sexually assaults people in the name of freedom. How many terrorists have hi-jacked airplanes in the U.S and crashed them in to buildings since 9/11?
As far as I know, none.
nine years later this whole bs with TSA shows up. And all of a sudden everyone's a terrorist who's gonna hi-jack planes?
There have been many attempts tho (i.e. Underwear bomber that I posted earlier, which was 2009 Christmas, just one Year ago! If he managed not to get caught, imagine what would happen.)
besides, maybe the government found something like more terrorist plots and they're trying to prevent them this way whereas the citizens don't like it, since it's random, and god forbid they got picked for a screening or pat down randomly.
You people need to seriously think. Wouldn't you rather get that slight better chance of not having a loved one die thanks to a terrorist? Wouldn't you rather not have another 9/11 happen?
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By Phoenix.Mogue 2010-12-07 13:25:47
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Phoenix.Mogue said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: who's a dumbshit? did posting a wiki link make you feel better about yourself? To respond to your ninja edit I'm sorry if facts make it hard for certain posters to feel good about circle jerking to their own ignorance. So did it make you feel better about yourself? I read your link, but if I were to be a "dumbfuck"(or if you weren't referring to me, but the "dumbfucks"), wouldn't I/they need you to explain it to me? It certainly was not aimed at you.
Read the first three pages with various morons cheering over this "legislation" that means absolutely nothing with out one person pointing out the obvious reason why it means absolutely nothing.
As a result, snide comments to said cheering section is all i can come up with atm.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-07 13:30:51
Phoenix.Mogue said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Phoenix.Mogue said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: who's a dumbshit? did posting a wiki link make you feel better about yourself? To respond to your ninja edit I'm sorry if facts make it hard for certain posters to feel good about circle jerking to their own ignorance. So did it make you feel better about yourself? I read your link, but if I were to be a "dumbfuck"(or if you weren't referring to me, but the "dumbfucks"), wouldn't I/they need you to explain it to me? It certainly was not aimed at you.
Read the first three pages with various morons cheering over this "legislation" that means absolutely nothing with out one person pointing out the obvious reason why it means absolutely nothing.
As a result, snide comments to said cheering section is all i can come up with atm. I've always found well placed sarcasm can work better than an insult :P
did you read the part about the Bricker Amendment?
I'd imagine it'd be pretty relevant(hingepoint), on your specific argument.
Bricker Amendment:
This proposed amendment would have mandated that all American treaties shall not conflict with the manifest powers granted to the Federal Government.
Subsequent Federal court cases such as Seery v. United States, 127 F. Supp. 601 (Court of Claims, 1955), Diggs v. Schultz, 470 F.2d 461 (1972), and Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957) have, over the course of time, established in legal decisions most of the limitations that had been proposed by the Bricker Amendment.
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2010-12-07 13:30:56
It's funny how the terrorists have won. How one successful attack has caused so many people to live in fear.
Terrorists 1 - America 0
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-12-07 13:31:04
Cerberus.Kalyna said: Ragnarok.Zanno said: Phoenix.Kojo said: Bismarck.Pawnskipper said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Now we know who to blame for the next terrorist attack. What do you mean by "next" terror attack? When was the first? lmao
You realise it's been 9 years since 9/11. 9 years without TSA sexually assaults people in the name of freedom. How many terrorists have hi-jacked airplanes in the U.S and crashed them in to buildings since 9/11?
As far as I know, none.
nine years later this whole bs with TSA shows up. And all of a sudden everyone's a terrorist who's gonna hi-jack planes?
There have been many attempts tho (i.e. Underwear bomber that I posted earlier, which was 2009 Christmas, just one Year ago! If he managed not to get caught, imagine what would happen.)
besides, maybe the government found something like more terrorist plots and they're trying to prevent them this way whereas the citizens don't like it, since it's random, and god forbid they got picked for a screening or pat down randomly.
You people need to seriously think. Wouldn't you rather get that slight better chance of not having a loved one die thanks to a terrorist? Wouldn't you rather not have another 9/11 happen?
Personally I would rather have another 9/11 happen than our liberties violated, for the same reason a lot of people would rather die than be a slave.
That being said violating our rights isn't the way to "prevent" a "terrorist attack"
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-12-07 13:34:47
Phoenix.Mogue said: Anyone who thinks New Jersey can do anything about the TSA.
hey "dumbshit", since when is TSA policy = US Federal Law?
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2010-12-07 13:35:26
"I'm sorry sir I have to stick this optical cable up your *** in order to see your rectal cavity. We can't have another terrorist attack now can we?"
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By Ragnarok.Zanno 2010-12-07 13:35:37
Petition has probably been posted before, didn't read the whole thread.
@Kalyna/Kojo
How's America going to make sure a terrorist dont board a plane in Italy, hi-jack the plane right before it lands in america and crash it wherever they want?
Gonna force TSA on the rest of the world as well? Or just close the borders for everyone, everywhere?
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