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 Ramuh.Lorzy
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-04-03 18:03:55
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usu or you could try the trophy pants
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By Fenrir.Azazael 2011-04-04 12:49:52
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This is the build I was looking at using


I am working on MNK Body +1 atm, I know I am lacking there. Friends have just been more focused on helping me finish Ulhudashis.

I know Beir Belt (+1) is better, I just haven't seen one in a while.

Waiting on a decently priced Hachiryu Haidate to show up.

The questions I have:
Does Light Gorget work? I already have one sitting around and would rather use it if I can.

Am I going to also see a big jump in numbers with MKE head? I finished a while ago and haven't decided on a head yet.

Any other upgrades I should look for?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-04-04 16:06:58
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Loki if you have it till af3+2
MKE head (4 str 15 ws acc 2% ws dmg)

Rest you hit spot on.

Even though its not listed on wiki light SHOULD work for it. I use thunder, personally, since its already on me. (though I have both)
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By Ragnarok.Akuji 2011-04-04 19:11:03
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Cerberus.Turtleshells said:
Dumb question, what's a good pair of leg for VS if one doesn't have access to sky or ZNMs?
Ramuh.Lorzy said:
usu or you could try the trophy pants

The Kokugetsu Haidate I use have +2STR +4attack augs, not as good as usu pants, but better then NQ shura.

Fenrir.Azazael said:
Does Light Gorget work?

Yes, I use one.

Fenrir.Azazael said:
Am I going to also see a big jump in numbers with MKE head?

Big? Not necessarily, your parsed WS average will increase though.

Fenrir.Azazael said:
Any other upgrades I should look for?

What Tiger said.

@Tiger, is your avatar you eating a chicken wing? haha
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-04-04 19:22:45
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Negro's other love, Ribs
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By Ragnarok.Akuji 2011-04-04 19:23:20
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Negro's other love, Ribs

This, is funny ***. LOL
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2011-04-05 02:22:17
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So would it be safe to assume that Ire torque +1/thunder belt would be the same damage as gorget/bb? Assuming you don't miss anything because of the -3 accuracy?
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By Fenrir.Azazael 2011-04-05 08:15:29
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Loki if you have it till af3+2
MKE head (4 str 15 ws acc 2% ws dmg)

Rest you hit spot on.

Even though its not listed on wiki light SHOULD work for it. I use thunder, personally, since its already on me. (though I have both)

I do have Loki's so that works, though my group is planning on getting at least +1 body the day after I finish 85, so it may be moot anyway. Guess it is time to get MKE head and put Aias Bonnet away until I find another use for it.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-04-05 10:38:08
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Asura.Leonlionheart said:
So would it be safe to assume that Ire torque +1/thunder belt would be the same damage as gorget/bb? Assuming you don't miss anything because of the -3 accuracy?
Assuming acc capped in both situations, yes
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By Leonlionheart 2011-04-05 20:07:02
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Asura.Leonlionheart said:
So would it be safe to assume that Ire torque +1/thunder belt would be the same damage as gorget/bb? Assuming you don't miss anything because of the -3 accuracy?
Assuming acc capped in both situations, yes

more reasons to procrastinate getting bb
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By Ifrit.Zerovirus 2011-04-05 20:09:18
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Leonlionheart said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Asura.Leonlionheart said:
So would it be safe to assume that Ire torque +1/thunder belt would be the same damage as gorget/bb? Assuming you don't miss anything because of the -3 accuracy?
Assuming acc capped in both situations, yes

more reasons to procrastinate getting bb

lol
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By Ragnarok.Akuji 2011-04-05 20:12:08
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Ifrit.Zerovirus said:
Leonlionheart said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Asura.Leonlionheart said:
So would it be safe to assume that Ire torque +1/thunder belt would be the same damage as gorget/bb? Assuming you don't miss anything because of the -3 accuracy?
Assuming acc capped in both situations, yes

more reasons to procrastinate getting bb

lol

I literally almost replied in the exact same fashion Zero but decided it wasn't worth my time haha.
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2011-04-05 23:51:47
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I was joking more or less.
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By Alexander.Alistrianna 2011-04-06 18:02:45
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If Black is > light, thunder or breeze belt, then wouldn't Ire torque +1 (str +7 acc -something) be better than a gorget? Both gorget and belt have been proven to add the same .1 fTP, right?

EDIT: nvm i somehow missed the above posts
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2011-04-06 18:26:15
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well then I think it's gotta be asked, is Ire+1/BB better than either combinations of str/gorget?
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By Lakshmi.Blacklion 2011-04-06 18:39:14
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There's like a +9 str belt btw (which is better than BB)
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By Fenrir.Skylong 2011-04-07 12:05:39
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Here it is right now, working on vereth atm. Gone over 200 3rd trophies trying to get +3str on kokugetsu haidate but haven't even gotten another +2str one yet. Hacihiryu seems out of reach for me, but aside from that I'm very happy with this set.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-04-07 12:18:57
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Other than the pants, which you already addressed, very solid.

Depending on what you're fighting and acc/attack needs, I'd consider swapping ear2 for aesir ear pendant.
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By Ragnarok.Akuji 2011-04-07 14:43:49
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Asura.Leonlionheart said:
Is Ire+1/BB better than either combinations of str/gorget?

For pure damage yes. To reiterate what Blacklion said, Beir Belt +1 is +9 STR and is a better WS piece than Black Belt.

But do keep in mind if your accuracy isn't capped for some reason then your trusty sea gorget is going to look ever so more attractive.
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By Ragnarok.Akuji 2011-04-07 14:48:41
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Fenrir.Skylong said:
Gone over 200 3rd trophies trying to get +3str on kokugetsu haidate but haven't even gotten another +2str one yet.

The best possible augs you can get on Kokugetsu Haidate for VS are +2STR and +4attack.

I finally got those augs after trading in about 210ish, +3STR don't exist.
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By Fenrir.Skylong 2011-04-07 17:06:17
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Ragnarok.Akuji said:
The best possible augs you can get on Kokugetsu Haidate for VS are +2STR and +4attack.

I finally got those augs after trading in about 210ish, +3STR don't exist.

I actually have 2 close friends that each got a pair with +3str on them(both first try <.<) I'll grab a SS later. Once I got a pair with +5 agi though :(
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By Ramuh.Sheya 2011-04-07 17:19:55
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This is what im working with right now, aside from obvious hand and leg upgrades, this is fine right?
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-04-07 17:36:18
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Wouldn't ire torque +1 be better than everything else?
edit: not replying to anyone in special, just asking a general question.
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2011-04-07 18:30:00
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Phoenix.Fredjan said:
Wouldn't ire torque +1 be better than everything else?
edit: not replying to anyone in special, just asking a general question.
gorget:
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Increases fTP multiplier by +0.1 and adds some amount of accuracy to the first hit of the Weapon Skill.
so i dont think that Ire Torque+1 will be better.
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By Fenrir.Skylong 2011-04-07 19:07:09
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Ragnarok.Akuji said:
The best possible augs you can get on Kokugetsu Haidate for VS are +2STR and +4attack.

I finally got those augs after trading in about 210ish, +3STR don't exist.


Think my other friend has +3str +3agi, so I'm still going to be burning trophies D:
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-04-07 19:15:16
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Ragnarok.Corres said:
Phoenix.Fredjan said:
Wouldn't ire torque +1 be better than everything else?
edit: not replying to anyone in special, just asking a general question.
gorget:
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Increases fTP multiplier by +0.1 and adds some amount of accuracy to the first hit of the Weapon Skill.
so i dont think that Ire Torque+1 will be better.
was mentioned above, ire+1 is the same improvement over gorget as bb is over elemental belts if acc is capped. but if you want acc it's better to use gorget because of -acc on ire obviously.
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By Ragnarok.Akuji 2011-04-07 20:13:00
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Fenrir.Skylong said:
Ragnarok.Akuji said:
The best possible augs you can get on Kokugetsu Haidate for VS are +2STR and +4attack.

I finally got those augs after trading in about 210ish, +3STR don't exist.

I actually have 2 close friends that each got a pair with +3str on them(both first try <.<) I'll grab a SS later. Once I got a pair with +5 agi though :(

My apologies Skylong, I'll update wiki as soon as I can if I remember. A little bit of me died inside because now I need to aug another 200 pants haha.
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By Lakshmi.Blacklion 2011-04-07 20:20:11
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After numerous parses in abyssea, i've seen most peoples acc (On Bigger mobs like t2/3 and such) are around 90-92% range (the people with atma's and abyssites), so it's a safe bet to just go with Beir+1 on your waist, and gorget on your neck (Since you'll get more str in waist slot than neck). I mean personally im just saying the average person, i'm sure many people can pull off both Beir+1 and Ire+1, but it's a safe bet to just go with the Beir and then the gorget.
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By Ragnarok.Akuji 2011-04-07 20:20:17
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Ramuh.Sheya said:



This is what im working with right now, aside from obvious hand and leg upgrades, this is fine right?

Looks very good, you already addressed what you need to improve.

I would suggest an Anwig if you have access to it also.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-04-07 20:27:01
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Ragnarok.Corres said:

gorget:
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Increases fTP multiplier by +0.1 and adds some amount of accuracy to the first hit of the Weapon Skill.
so i dont think that Ire Torque+1 will be better.
VS has retardedly high ftp values though.
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