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Victory smite build
Siren.Seiri
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By Siren.Seiri 2011-10-10 12:40:54
This is the build I'm aiming for. Anything I should note or change?
Use Atheling Mantle
Vulcan's Pearl shouldn't be out of reach for you either
Augmented shura kabuto +1 is still the #1 smite head i believe. Or MKD head if you dont have.
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By Odin.Laausuu 2011-10-10 13:05:49
What stats are the best on the MKD head? I currently use the Aias Bonnet as well for WS and would like to know what could improve it. I also have no clue what the Shura head augs are (assuming it is like the +1 legs I have with STR augs)
If I knew how to post my gear set I would do so, but I don't =P
Figured it out. My Shura Haidate +1 have STR+2 aug.
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By Odin.Zelphes 2011-10-10 13:22:17
What stats are the best on the MKD head? I currently use the Aias Bonnet as well for WS and would like to know what could improve it. I also have no clue what the Shura head augs are (assuming it is like the +1 legs I have with STR augs)
If I knew how to post my gear set I would do so, but I don't =P
Figured it out. My Shura Haidate +1 have STR+2 aug.
Best MKD augments would be WS dmg+2% and STR+4, WS ACC+15.
As for shura+1 head, you can top that with WS dmg+3%, STR+5, ATK+6 if you going for the best augments.
Siren.Seiri
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By Siren.Seiri 2011-10-10 13:29:21
What stats are the best on the MKD head? I currently use the Aias Bonnet as well for WS and would like to know what could improve it. I also have no clue what the Shura head augs are (assuming it is like the +1 legs I have with STR augs)
If I knew how to post my gear set I would do so, but I don't =P
Figured it out. My Shura Haidate +1 have STR+2 aug.
Best MKD augments would be WS dmg+2% and STR+4, WS ACC+15.
As for shura+1 head, you can top that with WS dmg+3%, STR+5, ATK+6 if you going for the best augments.
Personally i get better results from dex/agi aug on MDK (2% crit dmg/2% WSdmg).
Getting +3% WSdmg will put shura head above any, but ideally aiming for attack, and str from random pool would make it unbelievable.
Edit: Brutal earring...use it. Also Thew bomblet over tantra.
Carbuncle.Gokku
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By Carbuncle.Gokku 2011-10-10 13:34:57
thats my current outside abyssea build.
Helm augs: str+1 dex+5 ws dmg+3%
capped tonberry hate for +5% crit on neck.
Siren.Seiri
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By Siren.Seiri 2011-10-10 13:46:18
thats my current outside abyssea build.
Helm augs: str+1 dex+5 ws dmg+3%
capped tonberry hate for +5% crit on neck.
Not having usuk legs myself...how do they hold up against str+10 legs outside?
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By Odin.Zelphes 2011-10-10 13:51:22
thats my current outside abyssea build.
Helm augs: str+1 dex+5 ws dmg+3%
capped tonberry hate for +5% crit on neck.
This is a nice set. Getting Moonshade with TP Bonus+25 & ATK+4 would be a small upgrade over vulcans. You might wanna consider using BB instead of beir+1 for outside build. Atleast with Impetus down.
Carbuncle.Gokku
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By Carbuncle.Gokku 2011-10-10 13:51:30
im fairly sure hachi legs beat them * but frak the 10mil price tag on those*
idk if the shura legs+1 with 10 str beats them the dex is nice since it keeps you from going into the negative when using heafoc + belt+1. im definitely going to look into the 5str 3% double attack belt though.
Ragnarok.Stiel
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By Ragnarok.Stiel 2011-10-12 18:44:40
Hello ppl, i have read through the forum,and often i see if your acc is capped,or if your attack is capped,to choose which equip is best to use.
Im not an expert,still have alot to learn about maths,but i haven't really got how you guys know when you are capped in accuracy or attack vs a mob,or better,an nm really.
Since you can't see said mob or nm stats,how could one judge if your attack is capped lol? from what i have seen,many mobs T and VT in abyssea must have like 400-500 defense if im not wrong,and many NMs must have even higher than this.So lets assume to cap attack,you would need something like 1200 1400 attack to cap on many stuffs?I barely get 999 using best food stalwart ecc maybe berserk too to get that,but i don't think im even near to cap attack on anything worth mentioning.
Any suggestion and explanations accepted,im all ears XD
Ragnarok.Nemesio
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-10-12 19:04:43
im fairly sure hachi legs beat them * but frak the 10mil price tag on those*
idk if the shura legs+1 with 10 str beats them the dex is nice since it keeps you from going into the negative when using heafoc + belt+1. im definitely going to look into the 5str 3% double attack belt though. Belt drops from one of the new CoP dynamis Arch boss's I think...
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-10-12 19:15:06
Hello ppl, i have read through the forum,and often i see if your acc is capped,or if your attack is capped,to choose which equip is best to use.
Im not an expert,still have alot to learn about maths,but i haven't really got how you guys know when you are capped in accuracy or attack vs a mob,or better,an nm really.
Since you can't see said mob or nm stats,how could one judge if your attack is capped lol? from what i have seen,many mobs T and VT in abyssea must have like 400-500 defense if im not wrong,and many NMs must have even higher than this.So lets assume to cap attack,you would need something like 1200 1400 attack to cap on many stuffs?I barely get 999 using best food stalwart ecc maybe berserk too to get that,but i don't think im even near to cap attack on anything worth mentioning.
Any suggestion and explanations accepted,im all ears XD Acc shouldn't be a problem if you're alternating focus/aggressor.
Bahamut.Potorim
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By Bahamut.Potorim 2011-10-13 22:08:19
Which atmas should i use for victory smite?
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-10-13 22:13:43
RR/Apoc always, and either SS or GH.
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Bahamut.Serj
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-10-13 22:16:14
Hello ppl, i have read through the forum,and often i see if your acc is capped,or if your attack is capped,to choose which equip is best to use.
Im not an expert,still have alot to learn about maths,but i haven't really got how you guys know when you are capped in accuracy or attack vs a mob,or better,an nm really.
Since you can't see said mob or nm stats,how could one judge if your attack is capped lol? from what i have seen,many mobs T and VT in abyssea must have like 400-500 defense if im not wrong,and many NMs must have even higher than this.So lets assume to cap attack,you would need something like 1200 1400 attack to cap on many stuffs?I barely get 999 using best food stalwart ecc maybe berserk too to get that,but i don't think im even near to cap attack on anything worth mentioning.
Any suggestion and explanations accepted,im all ears XD Acc shouldn't be a problem if you're alternating focus/aggressor.
You'd be surprised.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-10-13 22:17:45
What would require that amount of acc? MNK can add another 30 or so acc and still cap haste before food and still have focus/aggressor.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-10-13 22:37:25
What would require that amount of acc? MNK can add another 30 or so acc and still cap haste before food and still have focus/aggressor. Dragua/chigoes as far as I know you couldnt cap acc without drinks. We have gained 5levels and 35skill now though, that may or may not be an issue anymore.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-10-13 22:38:29
I did Dragua the other day, had no issues with just focus/aggressor with no heavy acc build.
I wouldn't say anything in abyssea requires that much acc anymore.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-10-13 22:54:13
I did Dragua the other day, had no issues with just focus/aggressor with no heavy acc build.
I wouldn't say anything in abyssea requires that much acc anymore. Oh, hey, any tips for duoing dragua? WHM+MNK
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-10-13 22:57:08
PDT for petrify/terror, MDT for spells, ride counterstance, full DD mode. I used Bison Steak and had no issues with accuracy with cookie cutter build alternating focus/aggressor.
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Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-10-13 22:59:00
I'd rather kill twice as fast as the other duo and get the next KI pop before them.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-10-13 23:02:05
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »since you have it, go thf instead for TH Oh, I wasn't sure if THF would be able to kill.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-10-13 23:02:49
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-10-13 23:03:32
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »take twice as much dmg maybe but you wouldn't kill twice as fast true that, the difference in kill speed of my mnk vs my thf is ridiculous
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-10-13 23:05:35
You will when you factor in counters, ODD, no stopping to cast shadows, among other things.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-10-13 23:15:08
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Bahamut.Serj
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-10-13 23:15:52
Either sub thf or have your whm sub thf. And most damage you take from Dragua is from AoE.
Also, ODD on hth is a lie.
Ok I am not a mnk main by any stretch of the definition but I do have the 30 advancement coins to finish the +1 weapon once I have finished the nm trials.
This is what I am planning on using as soon as I finish within the next week. My main question is, what gorget should I be using with this weaponskill and is it better than a neck with 5+ str. My other question is with VS being a 4 hit /ws do I really need to concern myself with ACC should I upgrade to hefoc mitts?
Any other constructive help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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