Chant Du Cygne Worth It For BLU?

Main reason it's going on my spell list full time.

Heading out in a couple minutes so I don't have time to write the math out myself here concerning DA vs OA2-4, but you can see for yourself here:

http://bellsouthpwp2.net/k/i/kinematicf/FFXI/DPSSpreadsheets/

Designed by Motenten/Kinematics. The PLD xml is still a bit behind afaik but assuming the OA2-4 is in the spreadsheet you could get a decent approximation at BLU values if you played around with it a bit. Should see at least a 15% loss in damage going from DA to OA2-4. NIN (which I also see people ask about OA2-4 for for some reason) loses nearly 20% of their DPS with the switch and Kannagi 85 mainhand, not that DA Enchu +2 is particularly good for NIN either.

It really is my favorite spell of all. Sure Quadratic will do some hot numbers, but Delta Thrust is insanely powerful for its MP cost, has a potent added effect, and extremely low recast; oh and only 2 set points.

I keep it set more than I do Quadratic Continuum, which is nice because it also provides Dual Wield when paired with Animated Wail(which I don't think I've removed since I've gotten it).

fSTR capped, Mods > anything, so 6 DEX would > 4DEX 4STR

Don't neglect attack. fSTR will definitely be capped though.

Sometimes it's broken (can kinda tell by how long it takes to load lol) and doesn't show the best peice... that's why it also displays several different options on each slot...

I'm still not sure gorget/belt would be better than stats/att. I believe someone said the ftp was about 2.75 for the first hit... so the 2 of those would add about 3.5% dmg combine.

So say shifting neck and Thiazi's Belt for 12 more dex... so about 8.5 to base dmg. So as long as base dmg is below 242 it should be more

I only have WoE+2 so 58 base dmg there and 14 more from ftsr... so would need 170 base dmg from dex. So would need about 333 base dex or more for those to win. Unless you get more or less hits in.

Ok so this is what i have to work with as of right now.



Should i change rajas to a jupiter and kubira to a love torque? Theres no dex earring on the ah atm either, or tumblers.

Really would be a tough call I'd say... I mean the 2-3 attack might outweight 1 dex. Very hard to math out too

Miniscule difference between 2-3 atk and 1dex, so wear whatever you want. Really when you're bringing it down to such a small amount of difference I would just do whatever I'd be saving inventory space with, or even if I was just too lazy to change the macro I'd keep whatever I already had in the slot on.

I would try to get an augmented Jupiter ring w/ +attack.

So i finished my Lv.85 Almace tonight, and wow i am loving it. I paired it with the dex shamshir+2 and i'm hitting non stop. The aftermath is really nice 350-490 crits, and chant du cygne is really nice, 4800 at one point tonight on a tough cockatrice, pretty impressed. Here is what i wore for it.

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ws

Why the AF+2 over tumbler's trunks..? seems silly to me

Well, there were none on the ah when I went to bed. I'll check later on.

Also not capped on haste in tp build. I have a similiar build for CDC but no tumbler yet >.> been lazy so I gotta go get em.

Head6 body2 hands3 waist7 legs4 feet3 = 25%? Edit body%

25% in gear is actually fractionally less than 25% to the game engine, when he +2's the body he'll be true capped. Not worth adjusting for in the meantime.

Yes I thought he had body+2 but I made the edit. Would elemental gorget/waist > dex/atk neck/waist for CDC?

Cuch belt should beat ele belt unless pDIF capped or lacking accuracy. If truely pDIF capped (overcapped really), Thiazi would sidegrade compared to ele belt but ele belt has more acc. Can't see DEX+5 beating gorget.

It wont unless you ws in less than 153 dex assuming capped fstr and WoE+2 swd

how come nobody uses the af1 body now ? for casting magic

physical spells sure I do when i remember to take it out of storage lol. Though if I had Loki I'd probably use that on CA benthic. But this whole thread is about a ws...

This is for a ws build...

When I go /thf to events I use lokis for vanity and af+1 for everything else.

Finished off the +2 body tonight with a few orthrus pops. So now im at 26% haste. Still looking for some tumblers though.

I have no doubt that the DA offhand is better for pure damage output with any WS. I have the DA polearm and even on drakesbane (4-hits, meaning DA can only increase the WS by a small amount) and I'm putting out stupid numbers on things if you take in account that I have no WS gear. (Sold it all to pay for other jobs). But, regardless, I am most certainly sticking with my plans: Almace/Occ2-4 swords. For a few reasons (Both PLD & BLU Lv90).
1: I almost always sub DNC, and the TP gain from 2-4 sword really can't be beat. -Ignoring Kraken club as, in this case, BLU can't use.
2. TP can be used for so much more than just weaponskills for BLU. Although if I did have Chant Du Cygne, I'm sure I'd be much more frugal about my TP.
3. And idk about the rest of you, but with all that MP/refresh in abyssea, I can just spam spells and get hate pretty easily. So doing slightly less spike damage will be just fine by me.
4. Hopefully sometime between now and Lv 99, we'll see a spell with good damage that can close SC off Chant Du Cygne. And even if not, I'm confident that we won't see another sword WS out-damage it.

Tank ***like a champ.

Haha that's usually what I do. But between equipping proc spells and trying to get the most out of my job traits, I don't even put Cocoon in my Abyssea set, so it can lead to disaster. Not that exp loss means a damn thing anymore lol.