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Laptop Advice, Mac vs MS - Uni related.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-29 15:13:57
Phoenix.Darki said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Yeah browsing the forums, using skype, instant messengers, and gaming is so much better on a Mac than anything else in the world.
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Oh, and facebook too. Safari browses the internet over 9,000 times faster than any other browser.
uh right, just because those are the only things you do doesn't mean I too <.< just sayin'
You use Photoshop? I can access and use Photoshop easier than you due to my superior processor speed and Ram. Mac doesn't have a special piece of hardware called an "Adobe enabler" that makes Adobe programs suddenly run better.
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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2010-09-29 15:14:08
Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: mac doesn't even need all that power to run, sadly for windows you need like the top specs so you can run adobe programs decently lol my mac can run it all perfectly and it's way quicker for working around it.
specially with the new mouse function.
Didn't you use an old knackered PC laptop before your Mac?
and the argument still fails because I have another PC at home that I also use. and to me windows is still crap.
i just hear a lot of butthurt that mac can do it all.
And the specs are equal to that of your mac? That's like me comparing a mac from 2008 to an i7 PC.
no they are not lol 4gb of ram and 500 HD ? don't think so.
Hard-drive space =/= specs
it was an example lol you were comparing my mac to the computer at home. don't take things out of context it makes you look dumb.
thats not what makes him look dumb...
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-29 15:14:30
Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: And lol the new mouse function is 'Right click'... lol
have you even looked at the whole vid? or maybe i got the wrong one
http://www.apple.com/macbook/features.html
scroll down and you will see all the new features on the new trackpad.
with two fingers you can scroll, with four you go to desktop etc... browse more flion.
wait i forgot, you only think of gaming.
Because being able to put four fingers on a touch pad instead of simply clicking a desktop button would make work SO much more efficient. Or scrolling with a mouse (or with a Windows touch pad which has had that ability for multiple years).
Oh wait, you only think of buying the most expensive machine to look good.
you didn't even look at the features lol
and i didn't think of buying the most expensive machine, if i did i wouldve gotten a PRO.
The features are inconsequential fluff to try and make the Mac look more appealing when in reality it's inferior hardware for a higher price.
kk
scroll back a few pages
read what i said.
same answer, i am tired of repeating myself. this argument is pretty damn dumb.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-29 15:14:40
Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: mac doesn't even need all that power to run, sadly for windows you need like the top specs so you can run adobe programs decently lol my mac can run it all perfectly and it's way quicker for working around it.
specially with the new mouse function.
Didn't you use an old knackered PC laptop before your Mac?
and the argument still fails because I have another PC at home that I also use. and to me windows is still crap.
i just hear a lot of butthurt that mac can do it all.
And the specs are equal to that of your mac? That's like me comparing a mac from 2008 to an i7 PC.
no they are not lol 4gb of ram and 500 HD ? don't think so.
Hard-drive space =/= specs
it was an example lol you were comparing my mac to the computer at home. don't take things out of context it makes you look dumb.
Then why did you bring it up? When you ask for PC specs you don't bring up hard drive space. It's inconsequential.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-29 15:15:06
Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Yeah browsing the forums, using skype, instant messengers, and gaming is so much better on a Mac than anything else in the world.
EDIT:
Oh, and facebook too. Safari browses the internet over 9,000 times faster than any other browser.
uh right, just because those are the only things you do doesn't mean I too <.< just sayin'
You use Photoshop? I can access and use Photoshop easier than you due to my superior processor speed and Ram. Mac doesn't have a special piece of hardware called an "Adobe enabler" that makes Adobe programs suddenly run better.
lol because mac needs all that power to run. right.
and no i don't just use photoshop hon.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-29 15:15:43
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: mac doesn't even need all that power to run, sadly for windows you need like the top specs so you can run adobe programs decently lol my mac can run it all perfectly and it's way quicker for working around it.
specially with the new mouse function.
Didn't you use an old knackered PC laptop before your Mac?
and the argument still fails because I have another PC at home that I also use. and to me windows is still crap.
i just hear a lot of butthurt that mac can do it all.
And the specs are equal to that of your mac? That's like me comparing a mac from 2008 to an i7 PC.
no they are not lol 4gb of ram and 500 HD ? don't think so.
Hard-drive space =/= specs
it was an example lol you were comparing my mac to the computer at home. don't take things out of context it makes you look dumb.
Darki I am starting to think you know nothing about computers. you haven't even said anything useful.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-29 15:16:33
lol windows is so crap it even needs a program so adobe runs smoother? sure mac doesn't have it because it DOESNT NEED IT ;)
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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2010-09-29 15:17:23
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Alexander.Tidusblitz said: Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: mac doesn't even need all that power to run, sadly for windows you need like the top specs so you can run adobe programs decently lol my mac can run it all perfectly and it's way quicker for working around it.
specially with the new mouse function.
Didn't you use an old knackered PC laptop before your Mac?
and the argument still fails because I have another PC at home that I also use. and to me windows is still crap.
i just hear a lot of butthurt that mac can do it all.
And the specs are equal to that of your mac? That's like me comparing a mac from 2008 to an i7 PC.
no they are not lol 4gb of ram and 500 HD ? don't think so.
Hard-drive space =/= specs
it was an example lol you were comparing my mac to the computer at home. don't take things out of context it makes you look dumb.
thats not what makes him look dumb...
Pixelated avatars are pixelated.
I know i couldnt find a big one. So i cut my avatar off xbox.com and it want big enough =/.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-29 15:18:01
Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Yeah browsing the forums, using skype, instant messengers, and gaming is so much better on a Mac than anything else in the world.
EDIT:
Oh, and facebook too. Safari browses the internet over 9,000 times faster than any other browser.
uh right, just because those are the only things you do doesn't mean I too <.< just sayin'
You use Photoshop? I can access and use Photoshop easier than you due to my superior processor speed and Ram. Mac doesn't have a special piece of hardware called an "Adobe enabler" that makes Adobe programs suddenly run better.
lol because mac needs all that power to run. right.
and no i don't just use photoshop hon.
Windows needs more power to run the operating system, and it still runs Adobe programs better than OSx. Give me an example of something Mac can run better than an equally equipped native windows PC with a source.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-29 15:18:32
ok so suddenly I am talking about safari? I don't even use safari. I am talking about how mac works over all to use programs.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-29 15:18:43
Phoenix.Darki said: lol windows is so crap it even needs a program so adobe runs smoother? sure mac doesn't have it because it DOESNT NEED IT ;)
No it doesn't... What are you even on about now?
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-29 15:20:19
Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Yeah browsing the forums, using skype, instant messengers, and gaming is so much better on a Mac than anything else in the world.
EDIT:
Oh, and facebook too. Safari browses the internet over 9,000 times faster than any other browser.
uh right, just because those are the only things you do doesn't mean I too <.< just sayin'
You use Photoshop? I can access and use Photoshop easier than you due to my superior processor speed and Ram. Mac doesn't have a special piece of hardware called an "Adobe enabler" that makes Adobe programs suddenly run better.
lol because mac needs all that power to run. right.
and no i don't just use photoshop hon.
Windows needs more power to run the operating system, and it still runs Adobe programs better than OSx. Give me an example of something Mac can run better than an equally equipped native windows PC with a source. I don't see how, I have used windows and mac, mac for me runs everything about adobe better, and you are talking about adobe programs, how about cinema 4d? it uses cinema 4d in here 1000x better.
Give me an example why windows runs better the programs? because it needs some crappy adobe driver? yay more space taken off your HD for you =O
at least mac doesn't need that to be efficient. lol
and i gotta go for a bit.
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2010-09-29 15:22:45
i was just making a good old sandwich when suddnely this thread started to become a warzone. WHERE IS THE LOVE???
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-29 15:22:52
Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Yeah browsing the forums, using skype, instant messengers, and gaming is so much better on a Mac than anything else in the world.
EDIT:
Oh, and facebook too. Safari browses the internet over 9,000 times faster than any other browser.
uh right, just because those are the only things you do doesn't mean I too <.< just sayin'
You use Photoshop? I can access and use Photoshop easier than you due to my superior processor speed and Ram. Mac doesn't have a special piece of hardware called an "Adobe enabler" that makes Adobe programs suddenly run better.
lol because mac needs all that power to run. right.
and no i don't just use photoshop hon.
Windows needs more power to run the operating system, and it still runs Adobe programs better than OSx. Give me an example of something Mac can run better than an equally equipped native windows PC with a source. I don't see how, I have used windows and mac, mac for me runs everything about adobe better, and you are talking about adobe programs, how about cinema 4d? it uses cinema 4d in here 1000x better.
Give me an example why windows runs better the programs? because it needs some crappy adobe driver? yay more space taken off your HD for you =O
at least mac doesn't need that to be efficient. lol
and i gotta go for a bit.
Windows can run Adobe programs in 64bit, Mac cannot. With the amount of Ram that Adobe programs use 64bit makes them far more efficient.
(inb4 mac doesn't use Ram, and runs off of clouds)
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-29 15:26:44
flion idk wtf youre talking about
my mac runs adobe perfectly
even better than windows IMO.
I like mac more, it does it all for me. if you dont find it efficient too bad. stay with your pc o.o and the 1000000 drivers you need so it runs lol
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-29 15:27:59
who the hell needs adobe 64 bit?
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-29 15:28:16
i wasnt talking about that wtf
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-29 15:29:25
Phoenix.Darki said: flion idk wtf youre talking about
my mac runs adobe perfectly
even better than windows IMO.
I like mac more, it does it all for me. if you dont find it efficient too bad. stay with your pc o.o and the 1000000 drivers you need so it runs lol
Ok, you stick with overpriced tech with less than substantial results. I personally don't find installing drivers hard, and like the fact that if something goes wrong it's within my power to fix it.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-29 15:30:08
Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: flion idk wtf youre talking about
my mac runs adobe perfectly
even better than windows IMO.
I like mac more, it does it all for me. if you dont find it efficient too bad. stay with your pc o.o and the 1000000 drivers you need so it runs lol
Ok, you stick with overpriced tech with less than substantial results. I personally don't find installing drivers hard, and like the fact that if something goes wrong it's within my power to fix it. unless you don't know what's wrong.
I personally don't mind taking computers apart and fixing them.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-29 15:30:17
Ramuh.Vinvv said: who the hell needs adobe 64 bit?
People who use multiple programs at the same time and want programs to run in the most efficient way possible?
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-29 15:30:52
Shiva.Flionheart said: Phoenix.Darki said: flion idk wtf youre talking about
my mac runs adobe perfectly
even better than windows IMO.
I like mac more, it does it all for me. if you dont find it efficient too bad. stay with your pc o.o and the 1000000 drivers you need so it runs lol
Ok, you stick with overpriced tech with less than substantial results. I personally don't find installing drivers hard, and like the fact that if something goes wrong it's within my power to fix it. so if something goes wrong on mac i cant fix it? k!
and i dont mind the price ;/
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-29 15:31:08
Shiva.Flionheart said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: who the hell needs adobe 64 bit?
People who use multiple programs at the same time and want programs to run in the most efficient way possible? you mean browse 4chan and make lol pictures about cats right?
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I started uni earlier this september doing "Computer games development" Bsc.
Our tutor pointed out the huge student discount we get on macs etc and said preferably you should buy a good laptop to do your work on. Obviously we arent expected to but for various reasons i am after a laptop and may as well make it relevant to my course.
The problem is i know nothing about Macs and dont know whether to spend alot of money on one or get something else probably cheaper with just as good specs. Bare in mind i get 15% (stated) off Macs (although ive heard i get alot more off).
So what would you guys suggest, i guess ill be using various software on it for my course and i recall my tutor saying it should have 4gb of ram and 20gb hardrive.
Is there anything im missing with macs? I can get all microsoft stuff on it if i like, such as office or msn with no problems? And what are the main plus points of macs?
Thanks in advance.
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