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 Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-09-28 20:17:26
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Nobody can know everything!
I'm pretty much a noob myself compared to others even tho I work with this.
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By Gilgamesh.Minusseven 2010-09-28 20:18:52
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Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Sylph.Bouncingflea said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
I can play 14 just fine on my comp with a GTX280, should be alittle more powerful than the GT320, but it should work nearly as good.

actually, the gtx280 should be substantially more powerful than a gt320.

But a 320 should still run it :P
i want a macbook pro with your graphics card :P Im guessing if i spent the money on another laptop it i could get ffxiv running almost top?
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-09-28 20:21:53
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Yea definitely, saves buying the OS too.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-28 20:28:03
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i'm talken by personal experience, i was in same spot as op so...

if it doesn't run ffxiv i'll pout and slit wrists, then RR and play xi until ps3 release.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-28 20:31:41
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can macbooks be upgraded?
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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2010-09-28 20:37:50
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Most laptops cant be easily upgraded, including macbooks. Usually the cases are made for specific parts. There are those laptops that have snap in parts, but usually they cost a ton of money for the new parts because manufacturers dont want you to buy them, they want you to buy a new PC if your going to upgrade.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-09-28 20:38:38
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Phoenix.Darki said:
can macbooks be upgraded?

only the ram.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-28 20:41:13
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bummer
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-09-28 20:45:46
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Cough..PC means personal computer. This whole MAC - PC thing is a marking ploy started by apple to separate it's "culture" from IBM and Windows. Everything that isn't a server is a PC, be it running Mac, Windows, Unix. The difference between the two is the system architecture. Stop proliferating Steve Jobs's ego, he doesn't need your help.

I didn't know 14 could run in OSX....

-Addressing Topic-
It all depends on
A) What you are doing
B) what your personal preference is

if you want a laptop to both double in school work and gaming, you are probably better off getting a windows machine, unless you know all the fun OSX work arounds. (Most all games run on windows)

If you want a laptop specifically for school work, and you do alot of art or rendering or computational heavy stuff, hands down get a Mac. You get what you pay for, bottom line. You can run pretty much every educational software on a mac, and they have the best support team in the industry. You can get MS office, Maya, Adobe's full suit and the iSuite. that little thing is a powerhouse.

If you dont want to spend the money, or don't see its worth it, there are a ***ton of windows based machines. Now a days all the really shitty laptop makers have fallen away. Dell, Sony, Asus, Lenovo (IBM) all make quality products (i prefer Lenovo) so just find something in your price range. And for the love of god, dont buy from Bestbuy/Walmart/Circuit City UNLESS you can get a software package out of the deal (Sometimes you can haggle with them)

Also, don't listen to ANYONE who bashes and debases another hardware community. They are biased and usually have no clue what they are talking about.

EDIT - I totally forgot about Bootcamp. My apologies. Yes with bootcamp, you have the full functality of Mac and Windows in one. So really, no need to get a windows onry machine.

If you can afford it, get a Mac and try to get a deal to get 7 combo'd in.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-28 20:47:50
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Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Cough..PC means personal computer. This whole MAC - PC thing is a marking ploy started by apple to separate it's "culture" from IBM and Windows. Everything that isn't a server is a PC, be it running Mac, Windows, Unix. The difference between the two is the system architecture. Stop proliferating Steve Jobs's ego, he doesn't need your help.

I didn't know 14 could run in OSX....

i stopped reading.


bootcamp sir?
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-09-28 20:49:17
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Phoenix.Darki said:
Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Cough..PC means personal computer. This whole MAC - PC thing is a marking ploy started by apple to separate it's "culture" from IBM and Windows. Everything that isn't a server is a PC, be it running Mac, Windows, Unix. The difference between the two is the system architecture. Stop proliferating Steve Jobs's ego, he doesn't need your help.

I didn't know 14 could run in OSX....

i stopped reading.


bootcamp sir?

Bootcamp != OSX and running 14 through a virtual machine must suck, unless its not as hardware dependent as everyone says.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-28 20:51:22
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Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Cough..PC means personal computer. This whole MAC - PC thing is a marking ploy started by apple to separate it's "culture" from IBM and Windows. Everything that isn't a server is a PC, be it running Mac, Windows, Unix. The difference between the two is the system architecture. Stop proliferating Steve Jobs's ego, he doesn't need your help.

I didn't know 14 could run in OSX....

i stopped reading.


bootcamp sir?

Bootcamp != OSX and running 14 through a virtual machine must suck, unless its not as hardware dependent as everyone says.

you do realize bootcamp only partitions your hard disk it DOES NOT run like an emulator for windows 7?
all it does is divide the memory so you can install windows 7 on a separate space of your hard disk.

i could use bootcamp to have two partitions both running OSX.

edit edit:
windows 7 runs on an apple machine like it would on any other pc lol
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-28 20:51:25
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Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Cough..PC means personal computer. This whole MAC - PC thing is a marking ploy started by apple to separate it's "culture" from IBM and Windows. Everything that isn't a server is a PC, be it running Mac, Windows, Unix. The difference between the two is the system architecture. Stop proliferating Steve Jobs's ego, he doesn't need your help.

I didn't know 14 could run in OSX....

-Addressing Topic-
It all depends on
A) What you are doing
B) what your personal preference is

if you want a laptop to both double in school work and gaming, you are probably better off getting a windows machine, unless you know all the fun OSX work arounds. (Most all games run on windows)

If you want a laptop specifically for school work, and you do alot of art or rendering or computational heavy stuff, hands down get a Mac. You get what you pay for, bottom line. You can run pretty much every educational software on a mac, and they have the best support team in the industry. You can get MS office, Maya, Adobe's full suit and the iSuite. that little thing is a powerhouse.

If you dont want to spend the money, or don't see its worth it, there are a ***ton of windows based machines. Now a days all the really shitty laptop makers have fallen away. Dell, Sony, Asus, Lenovo (IBM) all make quality products (i prefer Lenovo) so just find something in your price range. And for the love of god, dont buy from Bestbuy/Walmart/Circuit City UNLESS you can get a software package out of the deal (Sometimes you can haggle with them)

Also, don't listen to ANYONE who bashes and debases another hardware community. They are biased and usually have no clue what they are talking about.
Also, don't listen to ANYONE who bashes and debases another person bashing and debasing another hardware community. They are biased and usually have no clue what they are talking about.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-28 20:52:26
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Phoenix.Darki said:
Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Cough..PC means personal computer. This whole MAC - PC thing is a marking ploy started by apple to separate it's "culture" from IBM and Windows. Everything that isn't a server is a PC, be it running Mac, Windows, Unix. The difference between the two is the system architecture. Stop proliferating Steve Jobs's ego, he doesn't need your help.

I didn't know 14 could run in OSX....

i stopped reading.


bootcamp sir?

Bootcamp != OSX and running 14 through a virtual machine must suck, unless its not as hardware dependent as everyone says.

you do realize bootcamp only partitions your hard disk it DOES NOT run like an emulator for windows 7?
all it does is divide the memory so you can install windows 7 on a separate space of your hard disk.

i could use bootcamp to have two partitions both running OSX.
How much studying have you done about Macintosh computers in the last 2-4 weeks darki. lolol
Google is a darling isn't it?
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-09-28 20:52:39
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Cough..PC means personal computer. This whole MAC - PC thing is a marking ploy started by apple to separate it's "culture" from IBM and Windows. Everything that isn't a server is a PC, be it running Mac, Windows, Unix. The difference between the two is the system architecture. Stop proliferating Steve Jobs's ego, he doesn't need your help.

I didn't know 14 could run in OSX....

-Addressing Topic-
It all depends on
A) What you are doing
B) what your personal preference is

if you want a laptop to both double in school work and gaming, you are probably better off getting a windows machine, unless you know all the fun OSX work arounds. (Most all games run on windows)

If you want a laptop specifically for school work, and you do alot of art or rendering or computational heavy stuff, hands down get a Mac. You get what you pay for, bottom line. You can run pretty much every educational software on a mac, and they have the best support team in the industry. You can get MS office, Maya, Adobe's full suit and the iSuite. that little thing is a powerhouse.

If you dont want to spend the money, or don't see its worth it, there are a ***ton of windows based machines. Now a days all the really shitty laptop makers have fallen away. Dell, Sony, Asus, Lenovo (IBM) all make quality products (i prefer Lenovo) so just find something in your price range. And for the love of god, dont buy from Bestbuy/Walmart/Circuit City UNLESS you can get a software package out of the deal (Sometimes you can haggle with them)

Also, don't listen to ANYONE who bashes and debases another hardware community. They are biased and usually have no clue what they are talking about.
Also, don't listen to ANYONE who bashes and debases another person bashing and debasing another hardware community. They are biased and usually have no clue what they are talking about.

i see what you did there
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By Siren.Jingles 2010-09-28 20:52:54
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My boyfriend has a Macbook Pro on which he runs Windows for FFXI, and we have both come to this conclusion:

A Mac, while having great parts inside, is not intended for heavy use like gaming for hours on end. It's like having a Ferrari that, in theory, has top of the line parts, but it was not intended to do much outside the garage, it overheats and stalls when driven outside. My boyfriend's Mac gets sooo hot on the Windows side, it's not even funny; I swear you could fry an egg on it. I think Mac's small size (more parts in close proximity to each other) and lack of fans and ventilation contributes to it.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-28 20:53:28
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Cough..PC means personal computer. This whole MAC - PC thing is a marking ploy started by apple to separate it's "culture" from IBM and Windows. Everything that isn't a server is a PC, be it running Mac, Windows, Unix. The difference between the two is the system architecture. Stop proliferating Steve Jobs's ego, he doesn't need your help.

I didn't know 14 could run in OSX....

i stopped reading.


bootcamp sir?

Bootcamp != OSX and running 14 through a virtual machine must suck, unless its not as hardware dependent as everyone says.

you do realize bootcamp only partitions your hard disk it DOES NOT run like an emulator for windows 7?
all it does is divide the memory so you can install windows 7 on a separate space of your hard disk.

i could use bootcamp to have two partitions both running OSX.
How much studying have you done about Macintosh computers in the last 2-4 weeks darki. lolol


i just lol at people who think bootcamp is an emulator.
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-09-28 20:54:28
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yeah i totally forgot about bootcamp. last time i had this convo it was with my mom when she was upgrading like 4 years ago and it was brand new.

My apologies.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-09-28 20:54:31
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Siren.Jingles said:
My boyfriend has a Macbook Pro on which he runs Windows for FFXI, and we have both come to this conclusion:

A Mac, while having great parts inside, is not intended for heavy use like gaming for hours on end. It's like having a Ferrari that, in theory, has top of the line parts, but it was not intended to do much outside the garage, it overheats and stalls when driven outside. My boyfriend's Mac gets sooo hot on the Windows side, it's not even funny; I swear you could fry an egg on it. I think Mac's small size (more parts in close proximity to each other) and lack of fans and ventilation contributes to it.
a MAC is like a ferrari? More like a painting. Great to look at, but not much use other than that
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-09-28 20:55:23
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Phoenix.Darki said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Cough..PC means personal computer. This whole MAC - PC thing is a marking ploy started by apple to separate it's "culture" from IBM and Windows. Everything that isn't a server is a PC, be it running Mac, Windows, Unix. The difference between the two is the system architecture. Stop proliferating Steve Jobs's ego, he doesn't need your help.

I didn't know 14 could run in OSX....

i stopped reading.


bootcamp sir?

Bootcamp != OSX and running 14 through a virtual machine must suck, unless its not as hardware dependent as everyone says.

you do realize bootcamp only partitions your hard disk it DOES NOT run like an emulator for windows 7?
all it does is divide the memory so you can install windows 7 on a separate space of your hard disk.

i could use bootcamp to have two partitions both running OSX.
How much studying have you done about Macintosh computers in the last 2-4 weeks darki. lolol


i just lol at people who think bootcamp is an emulator.

Thats what "and" is seperating. Bootcamp isnt OSX, it boots into another OS AND trying to run 14 in a virtual machine would suck. That's what i was trying to say.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-28 20:55:32
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Phoenix.Darki said:

i just lol at people who think bootcamp is an emulator.
when did you find out what bootcamp even was?
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-28 20:55:56
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not like i will be doing heavy gaming for hours to an end on ffxiv lol neither on ffxi, and funny i've left windows 7 on with sims 3 highest settings and mine doesn't overheat, we will see with ffxiv.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-28 20:56:44
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vinvv stfu it has nothing to do with the subject atm.
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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2010-09-28 20:57:00
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i wouldnt necessarily call the sims a graphical masterpiece >.>
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-09-28 20:57:14
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inb4 LOL MAC SUCKS BECAUSE PC IS BETTER JUST BECAUSE!
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-28 20:57:23
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Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Cough..PC means personal computer. This whole MAC - PC thing is a marking ploy started by apple to separate it's "culture" from IBM and Windows. Everything that isn't a server is a PC, be it running Mac, Windows, Unix. The difference between the two is the system architecture. Stop proliferating Steve Jobs's ego, he doesn't need your help.

I didn't know 14 could run in OSX....

i stopped reading.


bootcamp sir?

Bootcamp != OSX and running 14 through a virtual machine must suck, unless its not as hardware dependent as everyone says.

you do realize bootcamp only partitions your hard disk it DOES NOT run like an emulator for windows 7?
all it does is divide the memory so you can install windows 7 on a separate space of your hard disk.

i could use bootcamp to have two partitions both running OSX.
How much studying have you done about Macintosh computers in the last 2-4 weeks darki. lolol


i just lol at people who think bootcamp is an emulator.

Thats what "and" is seperating. Bootcamp isnt OSX, it boots into another OS AND trying to run 14 in a virtual machine would suck. That's what i was trying to say.
hmmm well windows 7 is pretty stable

i think people are just mad mac can run ffxiv too lol
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By Siren.Jingles 2010-09-28 20:57:40
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Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
a MAC is like a ferrari? More like a painting. Great to look at, but not much use other than that

I was using this for the sake of analogy. And also, considering that you can browse the internet, write up reports, listen to music, and watch movies on it, it's not wholly useless, lol.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-28 20:57:43
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Alexander.Tidusblitz said:
i wouldnt necessarily call the sims a graphical masterpiece >.>
it's still pretty heavy ;o
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-09-28 20:57:51
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Siren.Jingles said:
My boyfriend has a Macbook Pro on which he runs Windows for FFXI, and we have both come to this conclusion:

A Mac, while having great parts inside, is not intended for heavy use like gaming for hours on end. It's like having a Ferrari that, in theory, has top of the line parts, but it was not intended to do much outside the garage, it overheats and stalls when driven outside. My boyfriend's Mac gets sooo hot on the Windows side, it's not even funny; I swear you could fry an egg on it. I think Mac's small size (more parts in close proximity to each other) and lack of fans and ventilation contributes to it.

That's really odd, Mac's are usually little monsters, are you sure there wasn't other contributing factors? Also you are bound to find one bad apple, its hardware we talking here.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-28 20:58:46
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i just don't like how you're trying to cop off like you're some expert int the field with
Phoenix.Darki said:

i just lol at people who think bootcamp is an emulator.
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