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 Ramuh.Vinvv
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-29 18:35:18
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Gilgamesh.Minusseven said:
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minuss if you are going pc get an ASUS, their prices are very low for very powerful and good machines.
Rydiya got an asus that overheats all the time :/
Asus is nice, I do have to agree but I think establishing a price range would be more effective, I dunno if it was already mentioned in this thread or not what he was looking for. Only skimmed as it started going.

actually ***, this thread just turned into a PC vs Mac war for the most part and none of this was really covered lol.
I shall check Asus out.

Price range is <£1000 really (which wow comes to almost 1600 USD) but also im hoping i can get student discount on it, so i might be able to go above if so. generally i wanna spend like £800/900 after discount.

As for size, i dont want it too big probly 15" or so maybe even smaller if neccassery.

Edit: since i'll be taking it home on the train every couple of weeks and already taking a rucksack so probly cant put it onmy back
In all honesty I'd say it's best if you just do some googling, check like all the proprietary sites, I recommend as Darki had said Asus and also HP, you can check other sites such as newegg and any others mentioned if you want to do some quick comparisons.
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By Gilgamesh.Minusseven 2010-09-29 18:39:30
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The main problem is that i have no idea what is good in the laptops, like graphics cards. I know that 4gb+ of ram is good and thats about it lol. So i tend to get unstuck searching myself.

Edit: heres what i found on asus uk. http://www.asuslaptop.co.uk/#search=1&price[4]=600%20AND%20999&cats[1]=180&cats[2]=189
These however are not under the "gaming" section which only are on the over £1k but im guessing they may still be able to run fxiv well
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By Asura.Matzilla 2010-09-29 18:50:15
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I have a sony vaio laptop and its teh sex. thats about all i know about computers
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-29 19:18:32
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my dad burnt through two sony vaio in 2 years, he says they are crap.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-09-29 19:20:30
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Phoenix.Darki said:
my dad burnt through two sony vaio in 2 years, he says they are crap.
excessive porn does that
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-29 19:23:31
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Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
my dad burnt through two sony vaio in 2 years, he says they are crap.
excessive porn does that
maybe he's a basement dweller that depends on porn when he is traveling for work. It's something I wouldn't like to imagine or know.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-09-29 19:24:15
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Phoenix.Darki said:
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
my dad burnt through two sony vaio in 2 years, he says they are crap.
excessive porn does that
maybe he's a basement dweller that depends on porn when he is traveling for work. It's something I wouldn't like to imagine or know.
disturbing...
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-09-29 19:24:54
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Gilgamesh.Minusseven said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
minuss if you are going pc get an ASUS, their prices are very low for very powerful and good machines.
Rydiya got an asus that overheats all the time :/
Asus is nice, I do have to agree but I think establishing a price range would be more effective, I dunno if it was already mentioned in this thread or not what he was looking for. Only skimmed as it started going.

actually ***, this thread just turned into a PC vs Mac war for the most part and none of this was really covered lol.
I shall check Asus out.

Price range is <£1000 really (which wow comes to almost 1600 USD) but also im hoping i can get student discount on it, so i might be able to go above if so. generally i wanna spend like £800/900 after discount.

As for size, i dont want it too big probly 15" or so maybe even smaller if neccassery.

Edit: since i'll be taking it home on the train every couple of weeks and already taking a rucksack so probly cant put it onmy back
In all honesty I'd say it's best if you just do some googling, check like all the proprietary sites, I recommend as Darki had said Asus and also HP, you can check other sites such as newegg and any others mentioned if you want to do some quick comparisons.
It's just my model that tends to overheat at times.
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By Gilgamesh.Minusseven 2010-09-29 19:35:46
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Looking at customising a Vaio on the website for £728 (including vat) which isss £1151.73 apparently (although i think its more expensive in the uk) i can get these specs (bare in mind thats $500 dollars under what my max would be)

Intel® CoreTM i3-370M, 2.40GHz (processor)

320 GB Serial ATA (7200 rpm) (harddrive)

4 GB 1066MHz DDR3-SDRAM

ATI Mobility Radeon HD5650 1GB (graphics card)

Is that good? Would that play ffxiv well? Bare in mind also processor, hard drive and ram COULD be upgraded on the site but would up price ofc, but if you think its worth it on any point- please say so
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By Gilgamesh.Minusseven 2010-09-29 19:54:01
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Vaio is feeling like a strong contender if those specs are good or good enough after upgrading to the next option up. If these specs beat macs then macs pretty much out the equation for me since i can play ff on it too for a good price.


http://www.ffxivcore.com/wiki/System_Requirements
Theres requirements link if it helps people back up or disprove my theory
 
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By Gilgamesh.Minusseven 2010-09-29 20:05:50
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Intel® CoreTM i3-370M, 2.40GHz (processor)

320 GB Serial ATA (7200 rpm) (harddrive)

4 GB 1066MHz DDR3-SDRAM

ATI Mobility Radeon HD5650 1GB (graphics card)

Is that good? Would that play ffxiv well? Bare in mind also processor, hard drive and ram COULD be upgraded on the site but would up price ofc, but if you think its worth it on any point- please say so

I think that's overpriced a lot since it's euros, but I have no idea of the pricing there for hardware. It could probably run FF14, with graphics set at lowest and you would still lag, that's the best case scenario.
Pounds not euros. And hmm what needs upgrading in it to make it run well? The graphics card is very close to the recommended for "optimal" settings. Could upgrade to 6gb ram and the processer somewhat if that makes much difference?
 
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By Gilgamesh.Minusseven 2010-09-29 20:14:35
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Quetzalcoatl.Sketchzter said:
This laptop looks like a pretty good alternative to getting a Mac. Pretty expensive, but if you're aiming for a Mac, it really shouldn't matter.
How about this laptop? when converted to pounds its only £821 (which is very possible!) would that run ffxiv well/be good value for money?

(i have a suspicion that the very same laptop would cost alot more over here probly like £1k -__-)
 
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By Gilgamesh.Minusseven 2010-09-29 20:31:15
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Well that doesnt seem to exist on the uk market website.

Anyone know a familiar brand name pc laptop with i5 or better processor with a good graphics card for <£1000 (preferably uk website since i cant seem to find us ones for the same price at all)

Starting to wonder back to mac since pcs that can run ffxiv well really do seem THAT expensive, at least what i have seen.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-09-29 20:52:06
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Gilgamesh.Minusseven said:
I started uni earlier this september doing "Computer games development" Bsc.

Our tutor pointed out the huge student discount we get on macs etc and said preferably you should buy a good laptop to do your work on. Obviously we arent expected to but for various reasons i am after a laptop and may as well make it relevant to my course.

The problem is i know nothing about Macs and dont know whether to spend alot of money on one or get something else probably cheaper with just as good specs. Bare in mind i get 15% (stated) off Macs (although ive heard i get alot more off).

So what would you guys suggest, i guess ill be using various software on it for my course and i recall my tutor saying it should have 4gb of ram and 20gb hardrive.

Is there anything im missing with macs? I can get all microsoft stuff on it if i like, such as office or msn with no problems? And what are the main plus points of macs?

Thanks in advance.

Personal preference, I'd want both. Macs have bootcamp though.
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By Castillo 2010-09-29 21:01:58
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http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/19912-macffxiv-amazing/

In this thread the OP says FFXIV works very well on his MacBook Pro.

There are other posters who say it has good specs, but the graphics card isn't that high-tech for a laptop, as is being said in here.

If you decide to go with a desktop mac, there are better video cards, and bigger screens, up to 27"

Macs are very reliable, and you can get a three year warranty for them. Of course, it's your money. :)


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By Castillo 2010-09-29 21:12:02
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Here's a FFXIV Benchmark for one Macbook Pro:



Sorry for double post, I didn't see an edit button.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-09-29 21:21:53
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Original poster,

If you build a pc, you probably will have a lot more fun. The reason is you can upgrade it when ever you want. If you buy a mac pc, you will have to buy windows os to use bootcamp.

I'd just build one if you want a computer to last you a while, and if you already have a cheap laptop, just keep it and use it for what ever.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-09-30 11:07:34
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This thread has been remained since it's back on topic. Keep it there, and assist the OP. Degrading the thread into a mac vs PCs war will cause you to be topicbanned.

Edit: That's not to say that you can't discuss the pros/cons of each. However, if you are just bickering, that is not helping the OP.
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By Gilgamesh.Minusseven 2010-09-30 13:04:06
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Thank you Krizz :)

Also Stan, it needs to be a laptop for mobility purposes :/
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-09-30 13:09:10
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Gilgamesh.Minusseven said:
Thank you Krizz :)

Also Stan, it needs to be a laptop for mobility purposes :/

Asus or Lenovo

They should do you right.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-09-30 13:12:27
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Gilgamesh.Minusseven said:
Thank you Krizz :)

Also Stan, it needs to be a laptop for mobility purposes :/

hmmmm, how much are you willing to spend? Like I told you before, you can go with a mac book pro, or the regular series mac books, but will need a windows installation cd that has service pack 2 or something, or windows 7. If you do not mind spending money on windows 7 32 bit (do not know about 64 bit) go ahead.

Personally i would pick a normal pc if I were you. But Mac books can run FF14 if you have the right specs and I5-I7 core processors.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-30 13:13:31
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Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Gilgamesh.Minusseven said:
Thank you Krizz :)

Also Stan, it needs to be a laptop for mobility purposes :/

Asus or Lenovo

They should do you right.

I find Asus having overheating issues from time to time... might just be my experience with them though.
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By Gilgamesh.Minusseven 2010-09-30 13:15:58
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All the ones that can run ffxiv well are basically $2000 i think people underestimated prices, or maybe english prices.

After the help given here i am pretty tempted to go for a much cheaper Vaio if i ditch the ffxiv plan (over a macbook) since ill be saving like $500+
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-09-30 13:17:04
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Only thing not to like about bootcamp is the space of the HDD, you may want to change the hard drive, or sent it somewhere to be changed. I would watch out and ask apple though since this might void the warranty. May as well ask them if they can do it, :D.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-30 13:17:45
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If you're planning on running Bootcamp make sure you get an Intel, other processors can't run it.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-09-30 13:18:58
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I'm not really sure what to recommend. I don't know what websites would deliver to you. Are you able to order from sites like tigerdirect and newegg?
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By Gilgamesh.Minusseven 2010-09-30 13:19:40
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Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Gilgamesh.Minusseven said:
Thank you Krizz :)

Also Stan, it needs to be a laptop for mobility purposes :/

hmmmm, how much are you willing to spend? Like I told you before, you can go with a mac book pro, or the regular series mac books, but will need a windows installation cd that has service pack 2 or something, or windows 7. If you do not mind spending money on windows 7 32 bit (do not know about 64 bit) go ahead.

Personally i would pick a normal pc if I were you. But Mac books can run FF14 if you have the right specs and I5-I7 core processors.
< £1000 (1600 usd) although all stuff found on american sites so far, i either cant find or is way more expensive here. A mac with those specs will be wayy too much since macbook pro are £1500 which have only a bad graphics cardan not an i7 processor i think
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