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FFXIV Mouse Lag Fix
Asura.Biddy
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By Asura.Biddy 2010-09-06 11:23:46
OMG - this is amazing. <3 THANK YOU! :)
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Kujata.Rakirte
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By Kujata.Rakirte 2010-09-06 15:35:36
You are my hero.
Bismarck.Nevill
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2010-09-06 16:00:00
lol anon administrator
Asura.Yekyaa
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By Asura.Yekyaa 2010-09-06 16:25:59
Ugh... after going through the whole "restore from backup" reapply patches, apply MouseFix, i forgot to get a backup copy of the new 09.06.2000 patch file and have since deleted the old one as well ;;
Any chance someone has a backup of today's ffxivgame.exe before the MouseFix patch is applied?
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By Eugenitor 2010-09-06 16:39:23
Here you go. (I'll leave it on the server for a couple of days)
Now all Cliff needs to do is fix the infinite loop gobbling up a whole core (doesn't matter what your system is, this bug EATS ONE CORE, or possibly half a core on Intel hyperthreaded systems) all the way from the frickin' title screen, and he will officially be God.
Lakshmi.Azrial
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By Lakshmi.Azrial 2010-09-06 16:44:41
Lakshmi.Jaerik said: If anyone is even slightly suspicious of something Cliff's worked on, they should probably stop using this site right now. =p
Haha, this made me lol pretty hard
Asura.Yekyaa
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By Asura.Yekyaa 2010-09-06 16:46:04
Eugenitor said: Here you go. (I'll leave it on the server for a couple of days)
Now all Cliff needs to do is fix the infinite loop gobbling up a whole core (doesn't matter what your system is, this bug EATS ONE CORE, or possibly half a core on Intel hyperthreaded systems) all the way from the frickin' title screen, and he will officially be God.
Thanks, I assume since it was such a quick response, that you haven't managed to apply some Trojan to it ^^
By Eugenitor 2010-09-06 16:47:48
Asura.Yekyaa said: Thanks, assume since it was such a quick response, that you haven't managed to apply some Trojan to it ^^
Well, if there is a virus, I hope you let me know.. because that's the same copy I've been running! (Still waiting for some kind of solution to this CPU bug before I actually start playing FFXIV again. Half of a dual-core system can't run it worth a crap.)
Lakshmi.Jaerik
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-09-06 17:28:21
Cliff != Scragg. Cliff is another of the site's three co-founders.
As he quit FF11 long before the community side of our web tools were written, he has no linked character but is still a site admin.
Also, anyone who guesses the significance of his avatar without consulting teh Google wins one (1)* cookie.
(* There is no actual cookie.)
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Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-09-06 17:35:32
Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Cliff != Scragg. Cliff is another of the site's three co-founders. As he quit FF11 long before the community side of our web tools were written, he has no linked character but is still a site admin. Also, anyone who guesses the significance of his avatar without consulting teh Google wins one (1)* cookie. (* There is no actual cookie.)
Tic-Tac-Toe, across the bottom, now don't give me my not cookie.
Lakshmi.Jaerik
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-09-06 17:43:11
Phoenix.Kojo said: Tic-Tac-Toe, across the bottom, now don't give me my not cookie.
Fail.
Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-09-06 17:44:36
Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Phoenix.Kojo said: Tic-Tac-Toe, across the bottom, now don't give me my not cookie. NO U.
NO! I'm listening to It's a Sin, ATM. Can't hear the vid/wav/whatever.
Bismarck.Calina
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By Bismarck.Calina 2010-09-06 17:57:29
patch works great thanks^^
game sooo much easier to play using my razor naga then a controller hehe
Asura.Ketak
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By Asura.Ketak 2010-09-06 19:02:55
2 1 7 in binary?
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By Asura.Meowzma 2010-09-06 19:16:15
Odin.Blazza said: Asura.Meowzma said: Asura.Kowen said: Just tried it now at the title screen and it feels great. The cursor looks a little weird now though, like someone shrunk it in paint.
Why do you think they haven't added an option to toggle it on yet? If SE really doesn't want people using programs like windower, they need to stop "hiding" things that should be visible/usable in the first place...
+1 from me.
Who knows. In the Alpha phase, there weren't any settings for your graphics or the screen resolution, so you'd log in with everything on full blast @ 1280*720.
Only thing thing you could change is what port you wanted to use
Erm, can't remember if this applied for the alpha, (I think it did) but certainly from an early beta version there's been a config.exe you could open to tweak all that.
"C:\Program Files (x86)\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XIV Beta Version\ffxivconfig.exe"
Erm, nvm, 4th of July that was created on my system, so unless that was a reinstall, that coincides with closed beta release.
Config in Alpha only changed network port, not screen size etc. There wasn't even an option to change controls on 360pad (though it did work, you had to guess what the buttons were).
Fenrir.Scragg
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By Fenrir.Scragg 2010-09-06 19:16:24
Can I give a hint?
Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-09-06 19:19:32
I want ice cream..
By Viena 2010-09-06 20:28:38
Fenrir.Scragg said: Can I give a hint?
Is it alive?
By verbal 2010-09-06 20:35:13
It's a glider in Conway's game of life.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-09-06 20:44:18
Fenrir.Scragg said: Can I give a hint?
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By Asura.Meowzma 2010-09-06 20:56:33
Haha, a personal digg from SE.
By DAOWAce 2010-09-06 21:50:45
Leviathan.Catnipthief said: I believe the problem is it being server side rather then client side, I really do believe that once retail hits and we have a disk that installs stuff a bit more reliably that they will put stuff that should be client side... client side (IE, mouse, UI, idk what else really >.>)
Nah, not even that. I should've used the word 'sluggish'. It feels like the menu is operating in, well, software mode. The animation of the menu seems to be capped at 30FPS. It just feels so sluggish.
The latency with things like the craft menu, skills menu, item management, etc, that's all a whole different problem resulting in the servers being overloaded, and in Japan.
If we get regional servers and a non sluggish UI, I'll consider purchasing the game. Until then, I just can't play with the ridiculous lag in present time. 7 years ago was fine since I was on dial-up, it felt normal (and I was younger, more computer illiterate). Not so anymore, so it's extremely noticeable.
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Odin.Luthe
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By Odin.Luthe 2010-09-06 22:11:59
What I want to know, is when will Cliff release a pseudo-fullscreen mode for XIV? I really really want it. :)
Kujata.Erim
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By Kujata.Erim 2010-09-06 23:24:19
Odin.Luthe said: What I want to know, is when will Cliff release a pseudo-fullscreen mode for XIV? I really really want it. :)
You can sort of do that now using this.
The problem I have with this solution is that I lag pretty bad while doing it.
Kujata.Erim
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By Kujata.Erim 2010-09-06 23:41:52
Oh right, and the emblem, if I remember correctly is referred to as the Glider. Shows association with hackers I think. I haven't seen it in a long time.
Odin.Luthe
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By Odin.Luthe 2010-09-07 09:20:33
Kujata.Erim said: Odin.Luthe said: What I want to know, is when will Cliff release a pseudo-fullscreen mode for XIV? I really really want it. :)
You can sort of do that now using this.
The problem I have with this solution is that I lag pretty bad while doing it.
Yeah... which is why I want Cliff to do it. FFXI windower /rocks/. It actually performs better than SE's own windowed mode.
Gilgamesh.Katsuuu
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By Gilgamesh.Katsuuu 2010-09-07 09:21:21
Do you have a downgrade patch for version 2010.09.06.2000.
because i forgot the backed up, this morning :( I'm sorry!
By Cliff 2010-09-07 12:18:08
Odin.Luthe said: What I want to know, is when will Cliff release a pseudo-fullscreen mode for XIV? I really really want it. :)
I'd wait for Azaril to pull himself away from his girlfriend and/or work to do it. He put together a really great windower for windower 4.0, and I'm sure it would work great with FFXIV too.
Neither of us were in the closed beta so this is our first exposure to the game.
-cliff
Lakshmi.Jaerik
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-09-07 12:21:36
I also noticed that when the Receive ping gets high and/or the connection icon goes yellow or red, your character begins to lag on movement commands -- even continuous movement -- and jerks around a bit.
This is actually a good thing, in a way. (Minus the lag in the first place, which is pretty brutal.) It implies that character position is done on the server side and not the client, so hopefully FF14 won't be flooded with teleport hacks again.
Odin.Luthe
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By Odin.Luthe 2010-09-07 12:22:15
Cliff said: Odin.Luthe said: What I want to know, is when will Cliff release a pseudo-fullscreen mode for XIV? I really really want it. :)
I'd wait for Azaril to pull himself away from his girlfriend and/or work to do it. He put together a really great windower for windower 4.0, and I'm sure it would work great with FFXIV too.
Neither of us were in the closed beta so this is our first exposure to the game.
-cliff
Awesome. As long as there's at least a plan to investigate doing it, I'm happy. LOVE the XI windower. It makes playing on a computer bearable. :)
Hi,
Note: This is super experimental and I have no idea if this will work for you. Even if it does, it will most certainly stop working after the next update.
I think I fixed mouse lag in FFXIV. Turns out that there is a hardware mouse mode in FFXIV, and so I wrote a patch to enable it.
The patch is available here: http://static.ffxiah.com/ffxiv/FFXIVMousePatcher.exe - For game version 2010.09.12.2000 ONLY!
Put the patcher in the same directory as ffxivgame.exe (i.e. in the main FFXIV program folder). Make sure that you have the latest game version before applying the patch (currently the patch only works on whatever the latest version is). Make sure to make a backup of the original, because the patcher won't do it for you.
After it's done, you should have smooth mouse action. This DOESN'T fix input lag caused by low frame rate, but it does make the game playable...whereas before I couldn't stand it.
Please test and let me know if it works for you. If it does I'll work on a more robust patcher that survives version updates.
UPDATE: If SE updates the game version, you will get an error 'An update error has occurred - 20524' as it is applying the patch. When this happens, simply move your backup ffxivgame.exe file back into place and run the game again. It will succeed. After that succeeds, you can re-patch with the new version of the mouse patch above.
Don't have a backup? I'll let you slide this time and provide a downgrade patch so that your install isn't broken. Next time, back up!
http://static.ffxiah.com/ffxiv/FFXIVMouseUnpatcher.exe - This is ONLY for downgrading a patched game version 2010.09.05.2000 to unpatched 2010.09.05.2000 for people who didn't make a backup.
-cliff
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