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 Asura.Daleterrence
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2010-09-03 14:28:58
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This thread made every part of me from my eyes to toenails bleed.
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By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2010-09-03 14:29:33
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Cerberus.Juliusi said:
do you know how much work SE will have to put into the game to give some bosses immune to amnesia?!? that will just change the whole game because ppl will ES amnesia. every mega boss out. if they would give RED amnesia why dint they keep the BST ladybug amnesia ablilty on?!? now plz stop saying RED will get amnesia thanx
..................Two things.

1: No one knows what addle will be. For you to say it won't be amnesia and exspect people to treat your word as a fact is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.

2: Calm down... so you disagree with the general player outlook on what a spell will be. That is no reason for you to get pissed off. Just say your opinion wait for the update then laugh when you are proved correct and if your not just be humble.
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-09-03 14:29:42
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One with no life too. I even checked his profile on here and he clearly has way more time invested into ffxi then i do and i've been playing since PS2 release.

But hey we're on the internet and the internet is for porn... i know this cuz i heard a song about it... thus making it true
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-03 14:31:00
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Ramuh.Rowland said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Ramuh.Rowland said:
Valefor.Houppelande said:
This is just mere speculation, but I think it's going to be "magic defense down". :x It would be cool if it were amnesia though :3
That's what Death Blossom is for!
Death blossom is mevv down...
Don't you sass me
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By Sylph.Azlon 2010-09-03 14:43:57
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as to whether or not Addle will be amnesia or not, noone knows and its all speculation, but your reasoning makes no sense as to why SE couldnt add this into the game. (for most of the reasons others have pointed out in prev. post)

my biggest problem with what you have said is that break will not be game changing... really... really O.o. it may not be.. but i find that hard to believe.


granted SE will prolly make most of the things that we really would like to use it on immune to it. lets think if they didnt tho. by the time all the lvl ups are done blm/sch could POSSIBLY use ES/manifestation/kilaform(assuming same day,etc.etc.) break on <t>. normal manifest. spells last 60 secs+ if im not mistaken and kilaform boost m.acc. if you COULD get this to land on mobs that zergs work on then you are looking at the new zerg method. stack this with PD from alexander and your looking at a cake walk zerg.

obviously everything that goes along with break is, to put lightly, speculation. but like i said IF SE doesnt make HNM's immune to this it will be one of the most game breaking additions ever imo. we wont know till it comes out and is tested but isnt it fun to wish :).

as to break and addle, SE will let us have fun wishing/hoping/speculating but they will prolly just make them both very epensive play toys on low lvl mobs. /sigh
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By Cerberus.Drix 2010-09-03 14:56:35
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People keep mentioning Manifestation+Break. Do you REALLY think SE is gonna let us do that? most likely it'll be one of the spells that are unusable with Manifestation. Also, I think Charm is a lot more like Confuse than Amnesia is, though Charm for RDM is...
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By Fairy.Zeph 2010-09-03 14:57:54
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A little late to this party and I'm not trying to argue whether or not they're adding whatever spell to the game, I want to show you that it is a ridiculous thought that they couldn't add an ability because of how it would conflict with the code.

For example, you may have a Basic Monster class with all the normal things that any mob in FFXI can perform. Among other types of enemies, NMs will be one child of that class, they are the same as the basic Monster class, except they have a new rule or two, such as /checking as impossible to gauge.

Different subcategories may go on and such for different types of NMs and different types of monsters, however to change all of the children of a class, all you need to do is alter the parent. For example, you can have a boolean (true or false) variable that says AmnesiaImmune = True. Now all the children of this class (every NM who inherits it's traits from the NM parent class) will be immune to Amnesia (Assuming that is how the check is done in their code).

If their code is even half competent, it's structured in a way to make changes incredibly easy. If it's the worst code ever, it'd just take an all nighter from one coder.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-03 15:01:54
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Ramuh.Rowland said:
Cerberus.Drix said:
I think Charm is a lot more like Confuse than Amnesia is, though Charm for RDM is...
is about as useful as Charm for bard?
Especially on colibri. But really most rdms seem to be more accurate with there spells than most brds... and rdm can afford to /blm...

Charm could be epic on some mobs lol even if you needed ES
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By Leviathan.Dissonant 2010-09-03 15:02:35
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Ramuh.Rowland said:
Cerberus.Drix said:
I think Charm is a lot more like Confuse than Amnesia is, though Charm for RDM is...
is about as useful as Charm for bard?
Especially on colibri
I beg to differ!
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-09-03 15:16:58
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Final Fantasy XII

Addle is a Technick which lowers one foe's Magick power.

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

Units affected by Addle will not be able to remember any ability they have mastered, including Reaction and Support (if it plays any role in battle). Addle has an effect period of three turns. On the third turn, the effect wears off.

Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift

The Hunter and Ninja/Assassin retain their Addle-inducing moves (though Addle is renamed Counter Force). Adelle can also inflict the Addle status with the move Nesiiam in her special job, Heritor.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Addle

Probably been posted before, but I thought I'd just toss this in here
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2010-09-03 15:18:06
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-09-03 15:20:30
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lol I love /b/. Yeah, Addle is likely Amnesia.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Selim 2010-09-04 15:46:16
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And the Darwin Award goes to the OP...
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By Cerberus.Kurosen 2010-09-04 16:16:02
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Caitsith.Shiroi said:
BLM is NOT getting break! spell

do you know how much work SE will have to put into the game to give some bosses immune to break?!? that will just change the whole game because ppl will ES break. every mega boss out.
if they would give BLM break why dint they keep the BST lizard break ablilty on?!?

now plz stop saying BLM will get break thanx
lol this will soon become game for some copy pasta
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2010-09-06 13:07:05
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Cerberus.Kurosen said:
Caitsith.Shiroi said:
BLACK is NOT getting break! spell

do you know how much work SE will have to put into the game to give some bosses immune to break?!? that will just change the whole game because ppl will ES break. every mega boss out.
if they would give BLACK break why dint they keep the BST lizard break ablilty on?!?

now plz stop saying BLACK will get break thanx
lol this will soon become game for some copy pasta
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By Sylph.Hitetsu 2010-09-06 13:11:30
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I'm kinda glad this got bumped XD

A friend of mine in my LS came up with an interesting idea about Addle (which could tie in nicely with the new SCH spells).
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How about it attacks anyone, regardless of hate, at random (maybe other mobs in area too?). And, when addle wears, hate is reset. Would work if hate were already messed up and then would allow a party to restart on building hate. Just a thought. Also, could possible weaken attacks, anything that relies on Intelligence or Mind.

With the 2 new SCH spells that were released focusing on Enmity gain/loss, it's possible they gave RDM something also to work alongside them.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2010-09-06 13:15:19
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so rdm can hate reset a mob any point of a period of time with no control over what its attacking?

Sounds pretty much the opposite of what you want it to do. Sounds pretty fun for claiming tiamat though.
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By Lakshmi.Galvaya 2010-09-06 13:16:04
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Addle won't be amnesia, it'll be confuse. It will proc like paralyze, but instead, the mob will hit itself.
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By Sylph.Hitetsu 2010-09-06 13:24:56
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Cerberus.Eugene said:
so rdm can hate reset a mob any point of a period of time with no control over what its attacking?

Sounds pretty much the opposite of what you want it to do. Sounds pretty fun for claiming tiamat though.

Depends, if hate had already hit the fan (say a mob used a hate reset move and wiped all your tanks hate), then making it randomly attack whoever and reset everyones hate at the end wouldn't be that bad.

Would be able to work quite well with the SCH spells to control hate (after the initial beating everyone to death >_>;)

I think it could work well if it had a short duration (20~30s maybe?) and people were ready for a RDM popping it off so they knew there was no hope of hate being normal XD
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2010-09-09 15:59:56
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RED did NOT getting amnesia! spell
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By Hades.Stefanos 2010-09-09 16:05:13
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Lol @ the OP getting a -23 rating and he was actually correct.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2010-09-09 17:21:10
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his wild speculation was correct. his logic and grammar were atrocious
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By Bismarck.Rellz 2010-09-09 20:04:15
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addle: lowers an enemys magic accuracy and increases its spellcasting time. good against mage users that cant be silenced i suppose. besides that its crap im dissapointed tbh lol
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra 2010-09-09 20:09:05
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We still have 14 levels left. His logic is still flawed.
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By Bahamut.Shaj 2010-09-09 20:26:25
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-09 20:39:54
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Bismarck.Rellz said:
addle: lowers an enemys magic accuracy and increases its spellcasting time. good against mage users that cant be silenced i suppose. besides that its crap im dissapointed tbh lol
Assuming you can land this on mage users that can't be silenced :)
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By Titan.Darkestknight 2010-09-09 23:49:36
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Hades.Stefanos said:
Lol @ the OP getting a -23 rating and he was actually correct.
His theory on why they wouldn't was daft, it would not take them ages to add mobs to be resistant.

Only have to look at Break for BLM to see that, they just apparently don't like giving RDM useful Enfeebling Spells. Would rather give them to BLM.