Corsair QD Update

What does the rest of the Corsair community think of this?

Personally... it has me raging.

Any Corsair should know that you should be swapping your staves (and elemental grips if you use them) for each and every Quick Draw.

If we're gaining TP from it now... isn't that just a colossal waste of TP? to gain it just to lose it immediately?

I can see if you're QDing in melee gear (be it Joy-toy, M.Kris, etc) but then aren't you just minimalizing your QD output now...?

the idea of "Oh ***...let me quickly sleep this mob" while you don't want to loose TP is wonderful. But honestly, how often then not are COR's really doing that?


And the "Marksmanship Skill" idea now being able to skill-up with Quick Draw has me scratching my head.
If the skill is now related to it in the sense that it will rise... is Marksmanship now going to directly relate to your QD Damage or Accuracy?
If so... soooooo many Gear options and sets go out the window now.

Thoughts anyone?



tl;dr Kuz is QQing over COR changes :(

Sounds epic for QD soloing, personally.

it does just spam ice shot then light shot.

100% TP is.... OMG i forgot the lvl 55 god weapon skill move.

i havent played cor in years.


but yea ice shot, light, then weapon skill.. good solo strat.
or just spam light shot to skill up it saves money :)

That's why I mentioned that if you're full-timing Melee Gear, this actually is REALLY good.
But even Soloing... I'm swapping staves for QD.
Even just for the accuracy of Dark and Light shot.

Not like you ever need the TP then, right? so what is there to QQ about? lol

I thought that if a COR is soloing he isn't sleeping or anything; isn't it done by kiting? That's why I figured that, if you don't mind the -20% physical damage lost from idling in Terra's, you would keep one stave equipped.

He's upset because it's basically useless. Not because it hurts; because it doesn't really help, like the Whm Shield Bonus JT.

Except that it does help when you shoot/melee to deal dmg.
Will be like jumps on drg and sam for tp-gain >_>
Now I can cor/drg and have 2 QD charges AND 2 jumps wootwoot

Or you could just do the math...

Let's say it only takes 6 to get to 100% tp.

Let's say you can manage a 400ish QD without staff bonus or day/weather. Which doing the math is pretty generous. Having no staff bonus will only lose you 360 dmg in the time it takes to get you to 100% tp.

Are you saying you can't do 360 dmg per ws?

Note this assumes you get 0 staff bonus from QD... 0. Obviously you can just full time a staff and only lose some macc if you need to light/dark shot or for some reason shot with a different element

Think we have a Winner here :D

Exactly, there is nothing to QQ about.
This is a nice boost, it's not allways gonna be helpfull, but sometimes it will.
Any improvement is good in my book.

Oh don't get me wrong - I didn't staff swap unless I was QD-onry or needing to sleep something. (if it needs to be put to sleep, I can sacrifice my TP since we clearly need our *** saved)

But I also wasn't the greatest Cor on earth, gear and skill wise. By the time I was about to get all srsCor, I left the game.

Think of it this way.
You're raising money by selling lemonade and you have a tip jar. Someone walks by and drops a nickel in there.

Does it help? Yeah, sure, that's an improvement. But let's get serious - you want to kick that person in the face for such an insulting contribution.

Yeah ofc.
I'm not a great cor by any means, but atleast I see how this update is a good one.

xD

Me: It's half full!
Kuz: It's half empty!

Keep in Mind... i DID mention that for people maining Melee Gear for WS... this seems NICE.

See...right there...

It just really frickin bothers me to see people not QDing to full potential. Even if that Staff is adding 1% damage. its still 1% more then it was before.

If you told a WAR that "not using gear "A" ...you won't really miss that small percentage of damage"

or telling a SAM "eh you don't NEED to take Overwhelm to 5. just stop at 3/4 because those last 4% you won't even notice"

You'd have a Holy ***Storm on your hands.

I view it the same here.

Yeah at least QD isn't being gimped... well ok not that they've said yet.

Goddamn Battery charge /rage

LOL more like
Kvazz: It's Half Full
Kuz: *** THIS GLASS!

I think I just look at this from the positive side, and you look on it from a negative point of view.
"It's not perfect, so it's not good" :p


exactly xD

Even if you are losing from QD you are gaining more from the ws.

Yes indeed.

But now, make a battery-charge thread so we can have fun with that aswell!

Not really, because if there's ever a time where you'd be melee'ing ***, you wouldn't have been swapping out for staves anyway. If you're melee'ing things, then you're just adding extra damage in order to speed things up, so you should also be doing Quick Draws for additional damage. You want to keep your TP as well, so then you're not going to be swapping weapons unless absolutely necessary.

On it

OK All TP gain/loss aside
(Seems like it's beaten into the ground)

What about this Marksmanship Idea...

Think they're actually gonna change the modifiers for QD?
or is this just a piece of candy that SE is tossing us.

CANDY! YES PLX!

My only worry is that since we gain TP from using QD, is that mobs will gain TP as well as a result.

/REALLY hopes it doesn't.

No ones said it yet so yeah..... If you're DD cor then u got a vulcan staff on anyways and dont take it off do you? Fire Shot spam, as annoying as that is. But its extra tp

It's funny... I stepped away from the thread, had a smoke, scratched myself, and had nearly the same thought.

Granted I wouldn't go RNG/COR. But on RNG I use a Vulcans.
So yeah, I thought about it in that sense and it's pretty nice.

I agree with Mahayaya.

If I am meleeing with Joytoy and/or M Kris, I wouldn't even consider switching to a staff unless my group had wiped and I was trying to keep a mob with high light/magic evasion asleep.

By switching to a staff, unless you miss your WS, you will lose AT LEAST a sum of TP equal to that of one ranged attack. This quite frankly isn't worth losing if you can already land a full damage Quick Draw on a mob and you are doing any notable sum of damage with your WS, which you damn well should be if you are actually meleeing. The whole point of meleeing is to make your weaponskills a primary damage source.

If you are solo kiting something with Quick Draw, or simply not meleeing (indicating you are either shooting from a distance with Fire/Vulcan Staff equipped or you are not doing any damage at all, in which case you shouldn't even care), 9 times out of 10 you will be using the same Elemental shot anyway, so again, I don't really see the problem.

This is my primary concern. We're already used to juggling whether or not to swap staff for QD (keeping on Vulcan's/ M.Kris depending on current tp), but the ability to pin/kite without feeding tp is a large part of what made Cor solo so nice.

Second is that it may modify QD to make it consistent with ranged attacks. Marksmanship as a modifier for QD acc or making QD expend ammunition would both suck.

There's nothing to say any of that would happen, but after having been recently nerfed on another job, I'm feeling pessimistic.