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 Sylph.Tigerwoods
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-09-01 16:05:15
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Save as in you know this guy has less than a month to live, who doesn't care, or actually insists early termination, but the doctors won't allow for it and he's in a burning building on one side of the house with a puppy on the other side, and you have enough time to safely, without harm to yourself get one of the two.
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 16:05:48
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Carbuncle.Zanno said:
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@ Linkk I'd save my dog over you any day, without blinking. Does that mean I'm not honest, because that wasnt the answer you wanted?
Honest answer and after today I believe it. But I would still choose to save you because I am not detached from humanity. Now if you spent 3 hrs before you could answer such a simple thing wellllllll lololol
Because I dont camp the forums? Got more important things to do that F5 every 2 sec to see what you have to say. Unless my "answer" already told you that, you're not important to me. Most certainly not important enough for me to camp this forum.

I normally don't either, this is by far the longest and most I have ever posted. Pretty much because it's extreamly slow at work with the holiday coming up lol. I usually reading something. But I was reading while I was on here all day lol. hmmmmm
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 16:08:11
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Ok, my hypothetical situation. You have the chance to save a 1 month old puppy Terminally ill patient, has less than a month to live anyway, expresses his desire to die and get it over with quick than slow and painful over a month You'd let the puppy die over someone who WANTS to die and if he didn't want to, would live less than 30 days?


Save the puppy and send Dr.kevorkian so that pure person doesn't have to suffer
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By Cerberus.Ethics 2010-09-01 16:08:36
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schopenhauer said:
Compassion for animals is intimately associated with goodness of character, and it may be confidently asserted that he, who is cruel to living creatures, cannot be a good man.
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By semimmortal 2010-09-01 16:08:53
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Save as in you know this guy has less than a month to live, who doesn't care, or actually insists early termination, but the doctors won't allow for it and he's in a burning building on one side of the house with a puppy on the other side, and you have enough time to safely, without harm to yourself get one of the two.
If he insists on dying, then why not let him?
If the doctors are adamant on not letting him kick the bucket, that means that there is hope left.
Unless there's a law out there regarding this case.
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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-09-01 16:09:42
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Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Ok, my hypothetical situation. You have the chance to save a 1 month old puppy Terminally ill patient, has less than a month to live anyway, expresses his desire to die and get it over with quick than slow and painful over a month You'd let the puppy die over someone who WANTS to die and if he didn't want to, would live less than 30 days?
I would keep moving and not waste my time. If someone asks not to be saved, then I won't. But if the decision were up to me without intervention, I would save the human first, every time.

Ok.. Well put yourself in the puppy's paws!



What if you and a puppy were hanging from a ledge..

And a dog came along and had the chance to save only one of you!

You're *** if he uses your logic and saves the puppy since they're both the same species!
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-09-01 16:10:09
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If he insists on dying, then why not let him?
Well that's my point.

There's ppl here saying saving the dog over the human is wrong UNDER ANY CIRUMSTANCE and I disagreed saying there would be cases where you'd be better off saving the dog
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By semimmortal 2010-09-01 16:10:59
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Cerberus.Ethics said:
schopenhauer said:
Compassion for animals is intimately associated with goodness of character, and it may be confidently asserted that he, who is cruel to living creatures, cannot be a good man.
lol wtf? Where did we say to go out and start shooting dogs?
And notice the ke word "Living creatures".

Yes, we're living too.
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By semimmortal 2010-09-01 16:12:36
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
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If he insists on dying, then why not let him?
Well that's my point.

There's ppl here saying saving the dog over the human is wrong UNDER ANY CIRUMSTANCE and I disagreed saying there would be cases where you'd be better off saving the dog
I get your point. And I agree.

Maybe I'll just leave this thread a while... too many Q&As :s
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-01 16:12:47
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If he insists on dying, then why not let him?
Well that's my point.

There's ppl here saying saving the dog over the human is wrong UNDER ANY CIRUMSTANCE and I disagreed saying there would be cases where you'd be better off saving the dog

The only specific situation where I'd save a human over my dog is if they were a part of my immediate family. And even then it would leave me with a feeling of dread.
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By Cerberus.Ethics 2010-09-01 16:13:30
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semimmortal said:
Cerberus.Ethics said:
schopenhauer said:
Compassion for animals is intimately associated with goodness of character, and it may be confidently asserted that he, who is cruel to living creatures, cannot be a good man.
lol wtf? Where did we say to go out and start shooting dogs?
And notice the ke word "Living creatures".

Yes, we're living too.

I wasn't responding to anything/one in-particular. I appreciate the *** reality check you just put me in though, holy ***, we're alive?!

I still don't get your point. It doesn't read to me like go out and treat animals better, humans aren't living creatures.

schopenhauer said:
The assumption that animals are without rights and the illusion that our treatment of them has no moral significance is a positively outrageous example of Western crudity and barbarity. Universal compassion is the only guarantee of morality.
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 16:14:58
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
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If he insists on dying, then why not let him?
Well that's my point. There's ppl here saying saving the dog over the human is wrong UNDER ANY CIRUMSTANCE and I disagreed saying there would be cases where you'd be better off saving the dog

Not me. And I am the original one who asked the question. You are adding different variables which has long since been admited with different information will change the answer. It was all based off what I origially asked.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-09-01 16:16:22
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Well I wasn't talking to you, lol. Was talking to whoever was saying that a dog should NEVER be saved over a human. You may have orig asked the question, but was not the person I was addressing.
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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-09-01 16:17:23
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schopenhauer said:
The assumption that animals are without rights and the illusion that our treatment of them has no moral significance is a positively outrageous example of Western crudity and barbarity. Universal compassion is the only guarantee of morality

This~

A human being has no more right to life than any other being on this planet. We only think we do, because our brains are so egotistical.
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By Bismarck.Kazo 2010-09-01 16:20:49
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I live in same town this happened, didn't hear about it till now though. Very sad indeed.
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 16:21:12
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Well I wasn't talking to you, lol. Was talking to whoever was saying that a dog should NEVER be saved over a human. You may have orig asked the question, but was not the person I was addressing.

Ahh so that was the reason for your extremely exaggerate post to show there is always exceptions lol
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By semimmortal 2010-09-01 16:21:38
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Cerberus.Ethics said:
semimmortal said:
Cerberus.Ethics said:
schopenhauer said:
Compassion for animals is intimately associated with goodness of character, and it may be confidently asserted that he, who is cruel to living creatures, cannot be a good man.
lol wtf? Where did we say to go out and start shooting dogs?
And notice the ke word "Living creatures".

Yes, we're living too.

I wasn't responding to anything/one in-particular. I appreciate the *** reality check you just put me in though, holy ***, we're alive?!

I still don't get your point. It doesn't read to me like go out and treat animals better, humans aren't living creatures.
Erm... sorry?
It wasn't helpful to just copy/pasta a quote and post it out of no where, especially in the middle of a heated discussion.

Oh well, once again. Sorry.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-01 16:24:12
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Sylph.Linkk said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Well I wasn't talking to you, lol. Was talking to whoever was saying that a dog should NEVER be saved over a human. You may have orig asked the question, but was not the person I was addressing.

Ahh so that was the reason for your extremely exaggerate post to show there is always exceptions lol

You can't really handle someone with a difference of opinion, can you?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-01 16:24:40
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I am back from my lunch break, what is this?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-01 16:25:46
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
I am back from my lunch break, what is this?

Linkk still can't handle someone who has a different opinion

I don't know the rest, kind of bobbing in and out.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-09-01 16:26:42
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lol flion

This song turned on when i saw your post
and for like the first 30 secs I couldn't stop staring at your avatar while listening
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 16:27:09
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Sylph.Linkk said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Well I wasn't talking to you, lol. Was talking to whoever was saying that a dog should NEVER be saved over a human. You may have orig asked the question, but was not the person I was addressing.
Ahh so that was the reason for your extremely exaggerate post to show there is always exceptions lol
You can't really handle someone with a difference of opinion, can you?

I agreed with him so ahhh boya
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-01 16:28:03
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lol flion

This song turned on when i saw your post
and for like the first 30 secs I couldn't stop staring at your avatar while listening

The amount of sync scares me ; ;
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-01 16:29:11
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Sylph.Linkk said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Sylph.Linkk said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Well I wasn't talking to you, lol. Was talking to whoever was saying that a dog should NEVER be saved over a human. You may have orig asked the question, but was not the person I was addressing.
Ahh so that was the reason for your extremely exaggerate post to show there is always exceptions lol
You can't really handle someone with a difference of opinion, can you?

I agreed with him so ahhh boya

You still had to find a way to downplay his opinion, by saying it was extremely exaggerated.

Hypothetical questions normally are.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-01 16:30:00
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Heres a true honest answer for ya Linkk.

If I were approached with the situation where lets say my father got in a car accident and for some weird dipshit reason the dog got helped over my father(which wouldn't happen anyway), I'd imagine I'd be a bit pissed if he passed.
If he didn't pass and was lets say mortally injured at fault of the lack of assistance by a random...I'd imagine I'd be upset with the person who hit my dad with a car.

You see when you make a hypothetical it does help when you have a degree of realism involved.
Is this the answer that you wanted?
You can't make a vague non-realistic hypothetical question and expect people to answer what you call "honestly" without them questioning how ridiculous your hypothetical is.
Just don't happen that way.
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 16:31:34
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Sylph.Linkk said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Sylph.Linkk said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Well I wasn't talking to you, lol. Was talking to whoever was saying that a dog should NEVER be saved over a human. You may have orig asked the question, but was not the person I was addressing.
Ahh so that was the reason for your extremely exaggerate post to show there is always exceptions lol
You can't really handle someone with a difference of opinion, can you?
I agreed with him so ahhh boya
You still had to find a way to downplay his opinion, by saying it was extremely exaggerated. Hypothetical questions normally are.

My apoligies, I been on the at this all day lol. Being sarcastic is caring over into everything. Forgive me. ; (
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 16:32:15
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Heres a true honest answer for ya Linkk. If I were approached with the situation where lets say my father got in a car accident and for some weird dipshit reason the dog got helped over my father(which wouldn't happen anyway), I'd imagine I'd be a bit pissed if he passed. If he didn't pass and was lets say mortally injured at fault of the lack of assistance by a random...I'd imagine I'd be upset with the person who hit my dad with a car. You see when you make a hypothetical it does help when you have a degree of realism involved. Is this the answer that you wanted? You can't make a vague non-realistic hypothetical question and expect people to answer what you call "honestly" without them questioning how ridiculous your hypothetical is. Just don't happen that way.


Leaving work, won't get a chance 2 read an reply, gotta catch my bus ; )
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-01 16:32:34
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Sylph.Linkk said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Sylph.Linkk said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Sylph.Linkk said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Well I wasn't talking to you, lol. Was talking to whoever was saying that a dog should NEVER be saved over a human. You may have orig asked the question, but was not the person I was addressing.
Ahh so that was the reason for your extremely exaggerate post to show there is always exceptions lol
You can't really handle someone with a difference of opinion, can you?
I agreed with him so ahhh boya
You still had to find a way to downplay his opinion, by saying it was extremely exaggerated. Hypothetical questions normally are.

My apoligies, I been on the at this all day lol. Being sarcastic is caring over into everything. Forgive me. ; (

NP lol.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-01 16:35:30
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Sylph.Linkk said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Heres a true honest answer for ya Linkk. If I were approached with the situation where lets say my father got in a car accident and for some weird dipshit reason the dog got helped over my father(which wouldn't happen anyway), I'd imagine I'd be a bit pissed if he passed. If he didn't pass and was lets say mortally injured at fault of the lack of assistance by a random...I'd imagine I'd be upset with the person who hit my dad with a car. You see when you make a hypothetical it does help when you have a degree of realism involved. Is this the answer that you wanted? You can't make a vague non-realistic hypothetical question and expect people to answer what you call "honestly" without them questioning how ridiculous your hypothetical is. Just don't happen that way.


Leaving work, won't get a chance 2 read an reply, gotta catch my bus ; )
very convenient.
well if you catch it at a later time and if I'm paying attention I'll reply to your post man.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-09-01 16:35:55
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Sylph.Linkk said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Sylph.Linkk said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Sylph.Linkk said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Well I wasn't talking to you, lol. Was talking to whoever was saying that a dog should NEVER be saved over a human. You may have orig asked the question, but was not the person I was addressing.
Ahh so that was the reason for your extremely exaggerate post to show there is always exceptions lol
You can't really handle someone with a difference of opinion, can you?
I agreed with him so ahhh boya
You still had to find a way to downplay his opinion, by saying it was extremely exaggerated. Hypothetical questions normally are.
My apoligies, I been on the at this all day lol. Being sarcastic is caring over into everything. Forgive me. ; (

I disagree.
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