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Horrible act of animal cruelty.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-09-01 15:22:49
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Quote: Hypothetical question. What if the other person was a criminal but would go on to make a cure for cancer and because you didn't save him/her, the world was deprived of that cure? It wouldn't matter, because if the guy is dead, nobody could possibly know he'd be the future cure for cancer.
Doesn't anyone ever watch Final Destination? If he avoided death once, other ***will be flung at him till he dies, duh!
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 15:23:01
Shiva.Flionheart said: Sylph.Linkk said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Sylph.Linkk said: Fairy.Spence said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Ok Link. I have a hypothetical for you. Which would you save, a human you don't know, have never met and will never see again. Or a dog you have known for 10 years. If you want to complicate it there is also a person that you have known for several years but you only know just about as well as you know the dog...would you be outraged if all 3 died because no one helped them. I want you to answer this honestly because I know the answer already and I am just trying to stroke my ego. Oh, and no one will ever know about it, that's important too. lol good question, I see you know of or found the orginal question which I based it off of. Just to point out I have answered this question before and I picked the human and here is my simple reason why. Because I would want another person to pick me if the situation was reversed. See how simple that was. I persoanlly do know of people that picked the dog hands down and we went over my answer which they said just because you would want them to pick you instead doesn't change that they will most likely pick the dog which I agreed with. See, now thats honesty. GAHHH YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION!!?!?111 an honest answer is just yes. yes is the only honest answer that you can have. did you even read my question? My apoligies, I read the first part of the question and ASSumed lol Please be kind lol You are asking 2 questions. For the first one I already answered. For the complicated version which goes off in a totally different direction then the original because the first I have the ability to save the person or the dog and the other I have no ability to help anyone but focuses on how i would feel. Very poor question. I would feel different degrees of outrage for the person I kinda knew, and I wouldn't feel as outraged towards the person I didn't know at all. I would feel very upset about my dog, but it's just a dog. The question wasn't a yes or no question so my answer is perfectly fine. Now if you want to say after the fact it's a yes or no question my answer would have to be yes if that is the questions critiea. Again a poor question but I shouldn't be surprised considering who is asking it lol This is the kind of thinking I can never get behind. It's just a dog to you, it's a family member to another person. I know I'd save a dog that I'd known for years over a human that I didn't know any day.
You picked one part out of 2 very different questions. You said nothing about the person you knew just as long as the dog. Answer the whole question lol.
But I do understand your position. I have had a cat for 11 years and was a part of the family. So I know the attachment that can be built.
By semimmortal 2010-09-01 15:23:03
Fairy.Spence said: Okay, I'm not even going to try anymore... sooooo...
What if it was Hitler and a dog that were hit!?
Duh, the dog. Calling Hitler as human is... wrong?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-01 15:23:45
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Air Bud was awesome
Oh god yes it was. He was cool when he played basketball and I nearly QQ'd when the kid left him on the island on his own >.>
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-09-01 15:24:03
semimmortal said: Fairy.Spence said: Okay, I'm not even going to try anymore... sooooo...
What if it was Hitler and a dog that were hit!?
Duh, the dog. Calling Hitler as human is... wrong?
Hmm, I'll give you that one ~ But on the other hand one could argue that a pet is a family member, and not just an animal.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-01 15:24:16
Sylph.Anjali said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Quote: Hypothetical question. What if the other person was a criminal but would go on to make a cure for cancer and because you didn't save him/her, the world was deprived of that cure? It wouldn't matter, because if the guy is dead, nobody could possibly know he'd be the future cure for cancer.
This really has parallels with the topic I made funnily enough.
I understand the attachment to pets, but that 'what if' I just presented stands. A dog will never create a cure for cancer (just one example) but a human could.
The human could also rape me the very next day lol.
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-09-01 15:24:51
Sylph.Anjali said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Quote: Hypothetical question. What if the other person was a criminal but would go on to make a cure for cancer and because you didn't save him/her, the world was deprived of that cure? It wouldn't matter, because if the guy is dead, nobody could possibly know he'd be the future cure for cancer.
This really has parallels with the topic I made funnily enough.
I understand the attachment to pets, but that 'what if' I just presented stands. A dog will never create a cure for cancer (just one example) but a human could.
Works both ways, Anj, a dog isn't capable of killing millions of people.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-09-01 15:25:11
Let's talk about fat old woman who put random kitty-cat in a trash can for 15 hours.
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 15:25:48
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Sylph.Linkk said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Sylph.Linkk said: Fairy.Spence said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Ok Link. I have a hypothetical for you. Which would you save, a human you don't know, have never met and will never see again. Or a dog you have known for 10 years. If you want to complicate it there is also a person that you have known for several years but you only know just about as well as you know the dog...would you be outraged if all 3 died because no one helped them. I want you to answer this honestly because I know the answer already and I am just trying to stroke my ego. Oh, and no one will ever know about it, that's important too. lol good question, I see you know of or found the orginal question which I based it off of. Just to point out I have answered this question before and I picked the human and here is my simple reason why. Because I would want another person to pick me if the situation was reversed. See how simple that was. I persoanlly do know of people that picked the dog hands down and we went over my answer which they said just because you would want them to pick you instead doesn't change that they will most likely pick the dog which I agreed with. See, now thats honesty. GAHHH YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION!!?!?111 an honest answer is just yes. yes is the only honest answer that you can have. did you even read my question? My apoligies, I read the first part of the question and ASSumed lol Please be kind lol You are asking 2 questions. For the first one I already answered. For the complicated version which goes off in a totally different direction then the original because the first I have the ability to save the person or the dog and the other I have no ability to help anyone but focuses on how i would feel. Very poor question. I would feel different degrees of outrage for the person I kinda knew, and I wouldn't feel as outraged towards the person I didn't know at all. I would feel very upset about my dog, but it's just a dog. The question wasn't a yes or no question so my answer is perfectly fine. Now if you want to say after the fact it's a yes or no question my answer would have to be yes if that is the questions critiea. Again a poor question but I shouldn't be surprised considering who is asking it lol you are so close minded.
This coming from you? The one who had a hard time answering a simple question lol. Man you make me laugh lol
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-01 15:26:41
Fairy.Spence said: Sylph.Anjali said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Quote: Hypothetical question. What if the other person was a criminal but would go on to make a cure for cancer and because you didn't save him/her, the world was deprived of that cure? It wouldn't matter, because if the guy is dead, nobody could possibly know he'd be the future cure for cancer.
This really has parallels with the topic I made funnily enough.
I understand the attachment to pets, but that 'what if' I just presented stands. A dog will never create a cure for cancer (just one example) but a human could.
Works both ways, Anj, a dog won't isn't capable of killing millions of people. He is if you make a doomsday device into a chew toy.
you can make up and do anything in the realm of hypothetical man.
Which would you save if they were approached with Kryptonite, Superman, Superwoman, or Superdog?
I myself would save Superwoman. :/
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By Fenrir.Elliott 2010-09-01 15:26:53
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: ^
your opinion
No, it's not an opinion. It's a fact. You wont be able to give a good enough reason as to why you would save an animal over a human. Life is precious, both animal and human, but there is no justification for someone who has their priorities out of whack and that sir is your current predicament.
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 15:27:11
Fairy.Spence said: Sylph.Anjali said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Quote: Hypothetical question. What if the other person was a criminal but would go on to make a cure for cancer and because you didn't save him/her, the world was deprived of that cure? It wouldn't matter, because if the guy is dead, nobody could possibly know he'd be the future cure for cancer. This really has parallels with the topic I made funnily enough. I understand the attachment to pets, but that 'what if' I just presented stands. A dog will never create a cure for cancer (just one example) but a human could. Works both ways, Anj, a dog isn't capable of killing millions of people.
That was a good one. I must agree.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-01 15:27:14
Isn't it awesome when your music goes with the topic you're reading?
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-09-01 15:27:56
Fenrir.Elliott said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: ^ your opinion No, it's not an opinion. It's a fact. You wont be able to give a good enough reason as to why you would save an animal over a human. Life is precious, both animal and human, but there is no justification for someone who has their priorities out of whack and that sir is your current predicament.
NO, GTFO. Your arguement is invalid, and your sausage is limp, now GTFO!
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-01 15:28:22
Fenrir.Elliott said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: ^
your opinion
No, it's not an opinion. It's a fact. You wont be able to give a good enough reason as to why you would save an animal over a human. Life is precious, both animal and human, but there is no justification for someone who has their priorities out of whack and that sir is your current predicament.
Guy has a doomsday device and as soon as you save him he'll destroy the world, The Dog is a really cool Scottish terrier.
That put a ***on your logic.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-01 15:28:29
Phoenix.Kojo said: Fenrir.Elliott said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: ^ your opinion No, it's not an opinion. It's a fact. You wont be able to give a good enough reason as to why you would save an animal over a human. Life is precious, both animal and human, but there is no justification for someone who has their priorities out of whack and that sir is your current predicament.
NO, GTFO. Your arguement is invalid, and your sausage is limp, now GTFO! argument*
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-09-01 15:28:54
I think all Vinvv and I are trying to say is that you can't really simplify those situations to warrant a 'yes' or 'no' answer.
Linkk is off saying you're not being honest if you don't agree with him, Tiger is pro-animals it seems, Anj is trying to troll...
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-09-01 15:29:16
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Phoenix.Kojo said: Fenrir.Elliott said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: ^ your opinion No, it's not an opinion. It's a fact. You wont be able to give a good enough reason as to why you would save an animal over a human. Life is precious, both animal and human, but there is no justification for someone who has their priorities out of whack and that sir is your current predicament. NO, GTFO. Your arguement is invalid, and your sausage is limp, now GTFO! argument*
Xanax, bro.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-09-01 15:29:21
Quote: I understand the attachment to pets, but that 'what if' I just presented stands. A dog will never create a cure for cancer (just one example) but a human could.
Spence pretty much hit the nail on the head w/ his response. Not much I can add to that.
That person could be the next guy to walk into a school and start shooting at everyone, which could kill medical students who were working on a cure for cancer.
Quote: Doesn't anyone ever watch Final Destination? If he avoided death once, other ***will be flung at him till he dies, duh!
Only one final destination I live by
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 15:29:32
Fenrir.Elliott said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: ^ your opinion No, it's not an opinion. It's a fact. You wont be able to give a good enough reason as to why you would save an animal over a human. Life is precious, both animal and human, but there is no justification for someone who has their priorities out of whack and that sir is your current predicament.
This^
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-09-01 15:30:07
Tiger, do a barrel roll.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-01 15:30:24
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-01 15:30:39
Phoenix.Kojo said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Phoenix.Kojo said: Fenrir.Elliott said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: ^ your opinion No, it's not an opinion. It's a fact. You wont be able to give a good enough reason as to why you would save an animal over a human. Life is precious, both animal and human, but there is no justification for someone who has their priorities out of whack and that sir is your current predicament. NO, GTFO. Your arguement is invalid, and your sausage is limp, now GTFO! argument*
Xanax, bro. Heroin, Crack, PCP, Meth and any narcotic you can speak of.
Yeah I just went there.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-09-01 15:30:51
Quote: No, it's not an opinion. It's a fact. You wont be able to give a good enough reason as to why you would save an animal over a human. Life is precious, both animal and human, but there is no justification for someone who has their priorities out of whack and that sir is your current predicament.
No good enough reason?
We have a guy planning to kill thousands and a dog. You can only save one. You would pick the person?
By semimmortal 2010-09-01 15:31:21
Shiva.Flionheart said: Fenrir.Elliott said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: ^
your opinion
No, it's not an opinion. It's a fact. You wont be able to give a good enough reason as to why you would save an animal over a human. Life is precious, both animal and human, but there is no justification for someone who has their priorities out of whack and that sir is your current predicament.
Guy has a doomsday device and as soon as you save him he'll destroy the world, The Dog is a really cool Scottish terrier.
That put a ***on your logic. Well, humans that are harming the ones of their own really isn't worth calling human anymore.
See the Hitler vs Dog above.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-01 15:32:12
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Quote: No, it's not an opinion. It's a fact. You wont be able to give a good enough reason as to why you would save an animal over a human. Life is precious, both animal and human, but there is no justification for someone who has their priorities out of whack and that sir is your current predicament.
No good enough reason?
We have a guy planning to kill thousands and a dog. You can only save one. You would pick the person?
I don't really agree with what you say on this.
We all have the potential to be both a saint and a mass murderer...well to an extent of course.
Now if the hypothetical had two stabbing victims, one a serial killer and one a serial outdoor urinator(dog) which would you choose?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-09-01 15:32:45
Whether they're "Worth calling human" or not is irrelevant. They are still human.
Link: http://www.change.org/petitions/view/justice_for_epic_and_samson
I personally knew these dogs, they belonged to my sister's best friend. They got out on accident, but were never any harm. In the article is clearly states he was advised not to leave his home.
Please, if you are a dog lover, sign this to help bring justice to these 2. It takes 2 mins to enter your information.
Thank you for the support.
Krispey - Unicorn
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