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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-01 14:37:56
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What was the question? ;o
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-01 14:39:39
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Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
What was the question? ;o
Would you be pissed off if hypothetically a loved one and their dog got hit by a car and they helped the dog first?
That essentially is what I saw the question was.

I think it's a bit beside the point.
I'd be pissed off that they got hit in the first place over top of anything like that.
*prepares for more ego battles*
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 14:40:18
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If the kid with the scraped bleeding knee had haemophilia and the kid with a gun shot wound had a through and through I'd help the kid with haemophilia first. Situations change.
Yes, things change when more information is introduced. But my example was general. It the conditions my example explains is very simple. I can easily add on more information to what you said to switch it around once again. Stop playing word games lol
Suuuure and every car accident has at least 1 dog present right :P you don't have to take this post seriously. but you can take my sarcasm in this post seriously.
I don't take it seriously as in my life depends on it lol For all you know maybe it does. I could be on the verge of killing myself. It was an hypothetical example about priorities just like the knee and gun shot scenario. Key word being hypothetical of course lol. Another thing I find funny is instead of people being willing to say they are wrong, they go through ridiculous things to try to justify their narrow perspective. Seems a lot like politicians lol. It's a wonder we made it past the dark ages lol
You trying to say something there? I could say the same exact same thing about you in regards to defending your "hypothetical" This isn't a real discussion anymore because you only seem to be throwing veiled insults.
Not insults, the truth which people have a hard time with. How can I defend my hypothetical question? lol All it requires is an answer. But rather then answer it, people pick the cowards way out in order to avoid answering it. Give me a hypothetical question. Anyone one you like and I will show you how simple it is. if you want to elaborate afterwards and play around with different scenarios, we could do that too, but I will have the balls to answer the question first because I don't care about winning, I care about honesty and a lot of you are not being honest. When a person says they not sure what they would do or what they would want a person to do if they or a family member and a dog both gets hits by a car in a hypothetical question, there is a problem or they are lying.
Okay. I will give you my answer. I don't know. Jesus *** christ. Just because you feel that question is legitimately answerable does not mean that others will agree. I don't know what I would do in whatever situation you decide to make up this time, but perceiving that I am withholding my opinion just because "you are right" is just ***.

lol I see you updated your comment. you don't know?? lol This>>>"there is a problem or they are lying" so by all means ask me one. Let me show you how an honest person does it. Doesn't mean I would like it but I would be going on by the criteria of your question not my personal emotional baggage.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-01 14:41:21
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
What was the question? ;o
Would you be pissed off if hypothetically a loved one and their dog got hit by a car and they helped the dog first?
That essentially is what I saw the question was.

I think it's a bit beside the point.
I'd be pissed off that they got hit in the first place over top of anything like that.

Yeah I would be pissed because Humans > Dogs.

Why is there a quote train going on about this stupid hypothetical scenario?
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-09-01 14:43:04
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Because I didn't want to answer a hypothetical question.

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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-01 14:43:39
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If the kid with the scraped bleeding knee had haemophilia and the kid with a gun shot wound had a through and through I'd help the kid with haemophilia first. Situations change.
Yes, things change when more information is introduced. But my example was general. It the conditions my example explains is very simple. I can easily add on more information to what you said to switch it around once again. Stop playing word games lol
Suuuure and every car accident has at least 1 dog present right :P you don't have to take this post seriously. but you can take my sarcasm in this post seriously.
I don't take it seriously as in my life depends on it lol For all you know maybe it does. I could be on the verge of killing myself. It was an hypothetical example about priorities just like the knee and gun shot scenario. Key word being hypothetical of course lol. Another thing I find funny is instead of people being willing to say they are wrong, they go through ridiculous things to try to justify their narrow perspective. Seems a lot like politicians lol. It's a wonder we made it past the dark ages lol
You trying to say something there? I could say the same exact same thing about you in regards to defending your "hypothetical" This isn't a real discussion anymore because you only seem to be throwing veiled insults.
Not insults, the truth which people have a hard time with. How can I defend my hypothetical question? lol All it requires is an answer. But rather then answer it, people pick the cowards way out in order to avoid answering it. Give me a hypothetical question. Anyone one you like and I will show you how simple it is. if you want to elaborate afterwards and play around with different scenarios, we could do that too, but I will have the balls to answer the question first because I don't care about winning, I care about honesty and a lot of you are not being honest. When a person says they not sure what they would do or what they would want a person to do if they or a family member and a dog both gets hits by a car in a hypothetical question, there is a problem or they are lying.
Okay. I will give you my answer. I don't know. Jesus *** christ. Just because you feel that question is legitimately answerable does not mean that others will agree. I don't know what I would do in whatever situation you decide to make up this time, but perceiving that I am withholding my opinion just because "you are right" is just ***.

lol I see you updated your comment. you don't know?? lol This>>>"there is a problem or they are lying" so by all means ask me one. Let me show you how an honest person does it. Doesn't mean I would like it but I would be going on by the criteria of your question not my personal emotional baggage.
What do you want me to do again?
You say you are so honest, but you don't make things clear.
You assume that you are superior so you should be able to explain things a bit more clearly.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-01 14:43:46
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Fairy.Spence said:
Because I didn't want to answer a hypothetical question.


Oh okay.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-01 14:44:26
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Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
What was the question? ;o
Would you be pissed off if hypothetically a loved one and their dog got hit by a car and they helped the dog first?
That essentially is what I saw the question was.

I think it's a bit beside the point.
I'd be pissed off that they got hit in the first place over top of anything like that.

Yeah I would be pissed because Humans > Dogs.

Why is there a quote train going on about this stupid hypothetical scenario?
because Linkk is .
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 14:45:11
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
What was the question? ;o
Would you be pissed off if hypothetically a loved one and their dog got hit by a car and they helped the dog first? That essentially is what I saw the question was. I think it's a bit beside the point. I'd be pissed off that they got hit in the first place over top of anything like that.

You see, everything else is besides the point. The question doesn't ask how you feel, it's about what action would you take. Again, VERRRRRRRY simple. Dam, I guess I must have been the only one to have hypothetical questions in school. All you are doing is answering the question as best and honestly as you can giving the situation and the circumstances. Everything else is moot. As I said, we can play with different variables that would change your answer or if you can come up with one that would. Shheesshh lol
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-01 14:45:17
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He doesn't agree that a human should be assisted first? Over a dog?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-01 14:46:11
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Sylph.Linkk said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
What was the question? ;o
Would you be pissed off if hypothetically a loved one and their dog got hit by a car and they helped the dog first? That essentially is what I saw the question was. I think it's a bit beside the point. I'd be pissed off that they got hit in the first place over top of anything like that.

You see, everything else is besides the point. The question doesn't ask how you feel, it's about what action would you take. Again, VERRRRRRRY simple. Dam, I guess I must have been the only one to have hypothetical questions in school. All you are doing is answering the question as best and honestly as you can giving the situation and the circumstances. Everything else is moot. As I said, we can play with different variables that would change your answer or if you can come up with one that would. Shheesshh lol


I don't care wth the variables are. I would help the human before the dog.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-09-01 14:46:20
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Glocks are plastic guns for pussies, and 9mm is a round for *** who can't afford anything bigger/criminals/Doughnutivores. Anyway, if they were my dogs, this jackass would have my full collection up his ***. Signed.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2010-09-01 14:46:57
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@ Linkk

Sure, if you say this is what is going to happen and only this you can give a straight answer. One these boards you can pose a black and white hypothetical situation. Even if you do, you're still going to get people that disagree with you.
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Life is not black and white.

As Spence noted, in reality the hypothetical questions we pose on these boards rarely ever come near the actual reality of the situation. Sure if a dog got hit and a kid got hit I'm sure most of us would go see if the kid was alright first. The fact that other people bring up situations that would affect the situation should alone prove that there could be many different variables that play in a person making a decision.

These days I'm betting its the more popular decision to just call 911 then go help. If you do something wrong, that potentially further injures the child (as I'm assuming many of us are not affiliated with the medical profession), you could get sued in this letigious society, with a dog probably not so much. But hey in your world only one thing can happen and there is only one correct decision ^^.
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-09-01 14:47:19
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Yes, I'd likely be angry if people helped a dog before the helped my family member.

But vague question is vague, are they helping the dog because my family member isn't hurt bad? Which family member? Because yes, it might matter.

My point was that I don't like answering hypothetical questions because there are too many variables involved. And I can't tell the future, I don't know how I'd feel about things before they happen.

The italicized bit is an honest answer.

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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-01 14:47:44
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Sylph.Linkk said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
What was the question? ;o
Would you be pissed off if hypothetically a loved one and their dog got hit by a car and they helped the dog first? That essentially is what I saw the question was. I think it's a bit beside the point. I'd be pissed off that they got hit in the first place over top of anything like that.

You see, everything else is besides the point. The question doesn't ask how you feel, it's about what action would you take. Again, VERRRRRRRY simple. Dam, I guess I must have been the only one to have hypothetical questions in school. All you are doing is answering the question as best and honestly as you can giving the situation and the circumstances. Everything else is moot. As I said, we can play with different variables that would change your answer or if you can come up with one that would. Shheesshh lol
you say something is very simple and then you overcomplicate it.
Does not compute.
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By Caitsith.Katas 2010-09-01 14:47:49
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Nothing surprises me after watching the movie "The Cove", some people have hope for mankind, I myself do not.
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 14:48:31
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Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
What was the question? ;o
Would you be pissed off if hypothetically a loved one and their dog got hit by a car and they helped the dog first? That essentially is what I saw the question was. I think it's a bit beside the point. I'd be pissed off that they got hit in the first place over top of anything like that.
Yeah I would be pissed because Humans > Dogs. Why is there a quote train going on about this stupid hypothetical scenario?

Because answering the question would mean he would contradict his original argument, or seem like a fool for picking a dog so instead of being honest, he choose the cowards way out lol. Feel free to read back to confirm lol
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-09-01 14:48:51
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I'd also like to make note that all I know of the situation is that some idiot shot two Great Danes, who were allegedly armed with AK-47s and atleast one 'red rocket'. It's for that reason as well as "lolGlock", "lol9mm", and the fact that I have a soft spot for dogs that I signed.

Edited due to niece bothering me while typing.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-01 14:48:58
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Yes, I'd likely be angry if people helped a dog before the helped my family member.

But vague question is vague, are they helping the dog because my family member isn't hurt bad? Which family member? Because yes, it might matter.

My point was that I don't like answering hypothetical questions because there are too many variables involved. And I can't tell the future, I don't know how I'd feel about things before they happen.

The italicized bit is an honest answer.

The only right answer is his answer because this whole hypothetical is a rhetorical question where he believes he knows the only answer :/
it's *** ridiculous.
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By semimmortal 2010-09-01 14:49:08
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Does it have to be a family member? I mean... really?
Animals > Humans?

... wow.
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-09-01 14:51:22
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semimmortal said:
Does it have to be a family member? I mean... really?
Animals > Humans?

... wow.

That's not the point!
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 14:51:38
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Caitsith.Katas said:
Nothing surprises me after watching the movie "The Cove", some people have hope for mankind, I myself do not.

I feel you brother.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-01 14:51:41
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Ok Link.
I have a hypothetical for you.
Which would you save, a human you don't know, have never met and will never see again.
Or a dog you have known for 10 years.

If you want to complicate it there is also a person that you have known for several years but you only know just about as well as you know the dog...would you be outraged if all 3 died because no one helped them.
I want you to answer this honestly because I know the answer already and I am just trying to stroke my ego.
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-09-01 14:52:59
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Ok Link.
I have a hypothetical for you.
Which would you save, a human you don't know, have never met and will never see again.
Or a dog you have known for 10 years.

If you want to complicate it there is also a person that you have known for several years but you only know just about as well as you know the dog...would you be outraged if all 3 died because no one helped them.
I want you to answer this honestly because I know the answer already and I am just trying to stroke my ego.

Oh, and no one will ever know about it, that's important too.
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 14:53:37
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Does it have to be a family member? I mean... really? Animals > Humans? ... wow.

I mean that was the original question. It was more of a stranger/s being close by and it was a family member of yours, would you want them to help the dog or them?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-09-01 14:55:01
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I'd take my pet over some complete stranger any day, sorry.
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By Fenrir.Elliott 2010-09-01 14:57:57
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Human > Animals, period. I wont even begin to dive into hypothetical situations, because there are none to be had. Animals should never take priority over a human life no matter the situation or pretense. However, this has nothing to do with signing the petition, and personally I don't care enough to sign. Yes, it's a sad case, but I can't justify ruining a human life over a couple of damn dogs.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-09-01 14:58:34
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By semimmortal 2010-09-01 14:58:39
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Sylph.Linkk said:
semimmortal said:
Does it have to be a family member? I mean... really? Animals > Humans? ... wow.

I mean that was the original question. It was more of a stranger/s being close by and it was a family member of yours, would you want them to help the dog or them?
I don't mind if they're strangers or not, the fact they're humans I'll help them.

If people choose animals over humans, then that's going too far. It's one of the reason for the the downfall of society.

I'm not implying to all of us to go out and take our your pets, but just looking at some of the posts... sheesh.
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By Sylph.Linkk 2010-09-01 14:59:24
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Ok Link. I have a hypothetical for you. Which would you save, a human you don't know, have never met and will never see again. Or a dog you have known for 10 years. If you want to complicate it there is also a person that you have known for several years but you only know just about as well as you know the dog...would you be outraged if all 3 died because no one helped them. I want you to answer this honestly because I know the answer already and I am just trying to stroke my ego.
Oh, and no one will ever know about it, that's important too.

lol good question, I see you know of or found the orginal question which I based it off of. Just to point out I have answered this question before and I picked the human and here is my simple reason why. Because I would want another person to pick me if the situation was reversed. See how simple that was. I persoanlly do know of people that picked the dog hands down and we went over my answer which they said just because you would want them to pick you instead doesn't change that they will most likely pick the dog which I agreed with. See, now thats honesty.
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