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Horrible act of animal cruelty.
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By Asura.Poupee 2010-08-29 16:32:09
Lynxblade said: i have a dog at home, and if it came down to choosing between a family member, or the dog, i would choose the family member.....
him killing the dog was *** up ill agree with that, but it just annoys me how people take animals rights over humans
and zanno, oh no you made fun of my pld ,/cry >_> But probably 99% chance you will never be in that situation and you dont know which family member.
By semimmortal 2010-08-29 16:33:02
Asura.Poupee said: Bismarck.Luces said: Asura.Leyla said: definately signed. i hate ppl....
the OP should really have used the facebook page as even though it still lacks info and is slightly one sided it gives a more delted report of the events. The matter is being investigated by the proper authority's. The man should have been charged with and written a ticket for discharging a firearm within a neighbor hood. He would then have to prove why he did this in court. if the Animal department finds enough evidence to fully lay waist to the mans claim then they can charge him with animal cruelty. The petition is not really needed.
If he goes to trial for the discharge of firearm and he gets said nope you where wrong don't do it again and the animal unit does not follow up with a charge of animal cruelty then a petition would be merited. Unless I'm wrong and this would be considered double jeopardy but first time he is going to court for a ticket for discharge of firearm. Second time he is being charged with a crime so it shouldn't. First of all. No one should ever believe anything ever, even if it comes from CIA or FBI(well maybe should be believed) If it came from facebook, and you believe it. Maybe you should go back to school.
I think that was the point of his post. Till now, we vaguely know anything concerning the matter.
The OP's story should be treated the same way till we get more concrete evidence.
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By Asura.Alymorel 2010-08-29 16:34:20
Eh, I'm closer to my dog and consider her more of my family than my blood relatives. My dog saved my life, they sure as hell didn't...
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-08-29 16:34:29
its not about animal rights, its about beeing civilized.
The shooter obviously already was in his house, since the cops told him to stay there. The dogs couldnt have posed any threat to him what so ever while he was in his house. He chose to leave his house, despite what the cops told him to do, in order to go and confront 2 dogs with his gun.
What if he missed, or a ricochet would have hit a child in the head or something?
This isnt just about the dogs, which is bad enough, its about common sense.
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By Fenrir.Shallow 2010-08-29 16:35:31
My dog just farted....dieing here..someone...help...me...ugh...please!! *gasps*.....need...air.../collapse
By Lynxblade 2010-08-29 16:35:51
i dont see why this is such a big deal, when animals get killed all the *** time, ive seen videos where people skin animals alive, and they rip there skin off, while there still alive, its sad.
just saying if you care so much about animal rights, you would stop eating meat, and let all your pets free imo....lol
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By Asura.Poupee 2010-08-29 16:35:52
Fenrir.Shallow said: My dog just farted....dieing here..someone...help...me...ugh...please!! *gasps*.....need...air.../collapse my dog farted in my face once. be lucky
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2010-08-29 16:36:14
Fenrir.Shallow said: My dog just farted....dieing here..someone...help...me...ugh...please!! *gasps*.....need...air.../collapse
/steals shoes
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somethings should be kept hidden >.>
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By Asura.Poupee 2010-08-29 16:36:24
Lynxblade said: i dont see why this is such a big deal, when animals get killed all the *** time, ive seen videos where people skin animals alive, and they rip there skin off, while there still alive, its sad.
just saying if you care so much about animal rights, you would stop eating meat, and let all your pets free imo....lol why would we want our dogs to be free when there going to get picked up and put in shelters and get killed in shelters?
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-08-29 16:36:41
Lynxblade said: i dont see why this is such a big deal, when animals get killed all the *** time, ive seen videos where people skin animals alive, and they rip there skin off, while there still alive, its sad.
just saying if you care so much about animal rights, you would stop eating meat, and let all your pets free imo....lol Carbuncle.Zanno said: its not about animal rights, its about beeing civilized.
The shooter obviously already was in his house, since the cops told him to stay there. The dogs couldnt have posed any threat to him what so ever while he was in his house. He chose to leave his house, despite what the cops told him to do, in order to go and confront 2 dogs with his gun.
What if he missed, or a ricochet would have hit a child in the head or something?
This isnt just about the dogs, which is bad enough, its about common sense.
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By Asura.Bluespoons 2010-08-29 16:37:14
Asura.Poupee said: Fenrir.Shallow said: My dog just farted....dieing here..someone...help...me...ugh...please!! *gasps*.....need...air.../collapse my dog farted in my face once. be lucky
My dog fell in his own poo today...
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By Fenrir.Shallow 2010-08-29 16:37:42
Asura.Poupee said: Lynxblade said: i dont see why this is such a big deal, when animals get killed all the *** time, ive seen videos where people skin animals alive, and they rip there skin off, while there still alive, its sad.
just saying if you care so much about animal rights, you would stop eating meat, and let all your pets free imo....lol why would we want our dogs to be free when there going to get killed in shelters? You'll probably not like this, but out here in AZ, there is..I guess you could call it a law or something..anyway...if the shelter or pound finds dogs...they give them 3 days to be adopted or they get put down. ; ;
By Lynxblade 2010-08-29 16:37:47
rather be free and risk being put in a shelter, then have to be held by you everyday Poupee! >_>
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By Asura.Poupee 2010-08-29 16:38:21
Fenrir.Shallow said: Asura.Poupee said: Lynxblade said: i dont see why this is such a big deal, when animals get killed all the *** time, ive seen videos where people skin animals alive, and they rip there skin off, while there still alive, its sad.
just saying if you care so much about animal rights, you would stop eating meat, and let all your pets free imo....lol why would we want our dogs to be free when there going to get killed in shelters? You'll probably not like this, but out here in AZ, there is..I guess you could call it a law or something..anyway...if the shelter or pound finds dogs...they give them 3 days to be adopted or they get put down. ; ; i know :( people need to stop buying from breeders and buy from shelters!
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By Fenrir.Shallow 2010-08-29 16:38:51
Asura.Poupee said: Fenrir.Shallow said: Asura.Poupee said: Lynxblade said: i dont see why this is such a big deal, when animals get killed all the *** time, ive seen videos where people skin animals alive, and they rip there skin off, while there still alive, its sad.
just saying if you care so much about animal rights, you would stop eating meat, and let all your pets free imo....lol why would we want our dogs to be free when there going to get killed in shelters? You'll probably not like this, but out here in AZ, there is..I guess you could call it a law or something..anyway...if the shelter or pound finds dogs...they give them 3 days to be adopted or they get put down. ; ; i know :( people need to stop buying from breeders and buy from shelters! Both my dogs are from shelters. :D Do I get a good person star? :3
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By Asura.Alymorel 2010-08-29 16:39:19
Lynxblade said: i dont see why this is such a big deal, when animals get killed all the *** time, ive seen videos where people skin animals alive, and they rip there skin off, while there still alive, its sad.
just saying if you care so much about animal rights, you would stop eating meat, and let all your pets free imo....lol There is a difference from treating animals cruelly and eating them. There is no point in the first other than to be a horrid douchebag and the other has a point and is done a lot more humanely. And you know, pets do have a better quality of life, why would we let them struggle on the streets?
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By Asura.Poupee 2010-08-29 16:39:50
Lynxblade said: rather be free and risk being put in a shelter, then have to be held by you everyday Poupee! >_> Ya my dogs hate getting food, love, treats, there own big back yard, water, getting to be lazy and knowing there safe from people that wont kill them.
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By Asura.Poupee 2010-08-29 16:40:09
Fenrir.Shallow said: Asura.Poupee said: Fenrir.Shallow said: Asura.Poupee said: Lynxblade said: i dont see why this is such a big deal, when animals get killed all the *** time, ive seen videos where people skin animals alive, and they rip there skin off, while there still alive, its sad.
just saying if you care so much about animal rights, you would stop eating meat, and let all your pets free imo....lol why would we want our dogs to be free when there going to get killed in shelters? You'll probably not like this, but out here in AZ, there is..I guess you could call it a law or something..anyway...if the shelter or pound finds dogs...they give them 3 days to be adopted or they get put down. ; ; i know :( people need to stop buying from breeders and buy from shelters! Both my dogs are from shelters. :D Do I get a good person star? :3 yes sir you do.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-29 16:40:30
Lynxblade said: i dont see why this is such a big deal, when animals get killed all the *** time, ive seen videos where people skin animals alive, and they rip there skin off, while there still alive, its sad.
just saying if you care so much about animal rights, you would stop eating meat, and let all your pets free imo....lol
Again, you implying that shooting pets in the face is the same as killing animals for food either shows a total lack of understanding to the procedure used to kill animals for food, or the fact that you live in a third world country.
By Lynxblade 2010-08-29 16:41:32
someone teach me how to do that thing where i put other peoples quotes in gray so i can respond!
anyways, alymorel, you say killin for food is dif then being cruel, so if the person that shot the dog, ate the dog right after, could he say i wasnt doing it cause im an ***, i was doing it cause im hungry!?
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By Fenrir.Shallow 2010-08-29 16:41:49
Asura.Poupee said: Fenrir.Shallow said: Asura.Poupee said: Fenrir.Shallow said: Asura.Poupee said: Lynxblade said: i dont see why this is such a big deal, when animals get killed all the *** time, ive seen videos where people skin animals alive, and they rip there skin off, while there still alive, its sad.
just saying if you care so much about animal rights, you would stop eating meat, and let all your pets free imo....lol why would we want our dogs to be free when there going to get killed in shelters? You'll probably not like this, but out here in AZ, there is..I guess you could call it a law or something..anyway...if the shelter or pound finds dogs...they give them 3 days to be adopted or they get put down. ; ; i know :( people need to stop buying from breeders and buy from shelters! Both my dogs are from shelters. :D Do I get a good person star? :3 yes sir you do. Woot!
Asura.Alymorel said: Lynxblade said: i dont see why this is such a big deal, when animals get killed all the *** time, ive seen videos where people skin animals alive, and they rip there skin off, while there still alive, its sad.
just saying if you care so much about animal rights, you would stop eating meat, and let all your pets free imo....lol There is a difference from treating animals cruelly and eating them. There is no point in the first other than to be a horrid douchebag and the other has a point and is done a lot more humanely. And you know, pets do have a better quality of life, why would we let them struggle on the streets? Yeah and some sick *** like to have sex with them! Who says people and animals cant share lo- /vomits... oh I feel awful for bringin that up...
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By Asura.Poupee 2010-08-29 16:43:04
Lynxblade said: someone teach me how to do that thing where i put other peoples quotes in gray so i can respond!
anyways, alymorel, you say killin for food is dif then being cruel, so if the person that shot the dog, ate the dog right after, could he say i wasnt doing it cause im an ***, i was doing it cause im hungry!? You dont even know how to quote someone. You shouldnt even get a say in anything from now on.
edit: plus the dogs were someones loved pet.
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By Bismarck.Luces 2010-08-29 16:43:16
Asura.Poupee said: Bismarck.Luces said: Asura.Leyla said: definately signed. i hate ppl....
the OP should really have used the facebook page as even though it still lacks info and is slightly one sided it gives a more delted report of the events. The matter is being investigated by the proper authority's. The man should have been charged with and written a ticket for discharging a firearm within a neighbor hood. He would then have to prove why he did this in court. if the Animal department finds enough evidence to fully lay waist to the mans claim then they can charge him with animal cruelty. The petition is not really needed.
If he goes to trial for the discharge of firearm and he gets said nope you where wrong don't do it again and the animal unit does not follow up with a charge of animal cruelty then a petition would be merited. Unless I'm wrong and this would be considered double jeopardy but first time he is going to court for a ticket for discharge of firearm. Second time he is being charged with a crime so it shouldn't. First of all. No one should ever believe anything ever, even if it comes from CIA or FBI(well maybe should be believed) If it came from facebook, and you believe it. Maybe you should go back to school.
Fail logic is fail?
to say you don't believe a site that gives more information on what happened compared to a set that is worded purely to be emotional.
I was trying to find the county it was in to see any newspaper articles or police report on it. When I cam across the facebook page. The facebook page is the first half of the OP's link with an article published concerning the case. The article quoted the vet as to say the animals where to dehydrated to attack anyone let alone act aggressively. Do I believe that they could not act aggressively? no for the dogs to be that dehydrated they would have to be near death. All I said was the OP site lacked any kind of evidence outside of the guy shot them and even left information out of the account.
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By Bismarck.Pyrofrost 2010-08-29 16:46:37
Lynxblade said: someone teach me how to do that thing where i put other peoples quotes in gray so i can respond!
LOL, thank you for that!
By Lynxblade 2010-08-29 16:48:13
think i figured it out! anyways, you say getting to roam in a free backyard? i would rather be free and get to roam w/e the *** i want too and risk being caught by a shelter, then have to be nudered, and held by humans all day, and only getting to play around in a small backyard >_>
By Lynxblade 2010-08-29 16:48:43
nope false alarm didnt figure it out :/
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By Fenrir.Shallow 2010-08-29 16:48:57
Bismarck.Luces said: Asura.Poupee said: Bismarck.Luces said: Asura.Leyla said: definately signed. i hate ppl....
the OP should really have used the facebook page as even though it still lacks info and is slightly one sided it gives a more delted report of the events. The matter is being investigated by the proper authority's. The man should have been charged with and written a ticket for discharging a firearm within a neighbor hood. He would then have to prove why he did this in court. if the Animal department finds enough evidence to fully lay waist to the mans claim then they can charge him with animal cruelty. The petition is not really needed.
If he goes to trial for the discharge of firearm and he gets said nope you where wrong don't do it again and the animal unit does not follow up with a charge of animal cruelty then a petition would be merited. Unless I'm wrong and this would be considered double jeopardy but first time he is going to court for a ticket for discharge of firearm. Second time he is being charged with a crime so it shouldn't. First of all. No one should ever believe anything ever, even if it comes from CIA or FBI(well maybe should be believed) If it came from facebook, and you believe it. Maybe you should go back to school.
Fail logic is fail?
to say you don't believe a site that gives more information on what happened compared to a set that is worded purely to be emotional.
I was trying to find the county it was in to see any newspaper articles or police report on it. When I cam across the facebook page. The facebook page is the first half of the OP's link with an article published concerning the case. The article quoted the vet as to say the animals where to dehydrated to attack anyone let alone act aggressively. Do I believe that they could not act aggressively? no for the dogs to be that dehydrated they would have to be near death. All I said was the OP site lacked any kind of evidence outside of the guy shot them and even left information out of the account. Kind of think we should stick you in a fur coat and pants and blind fold you so you can truly be walking around aimlessly through a neighborhood in the sun and let ya dehydrate for a bit and let us see how calm that will make you. Hunger and dehydration can lead to (and mostly will) a weak state of fatigue. It doesn't take much for people to get hungry then get lazy to try and get something for themselves to eat. Lack of energy leaves ya calm and tired..
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-08-29 16:49:38
I'd rather be guaranteed survival.
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By Asura.Alymorel 2010-08-29 16:50:39
Lynxblade said: someone teach me how to do that thing where i put other peoples quotes in gray so i can respond!
anyways, alymorel, you say killin for food is dif then being cruel, so if the person that shot the dog, ate the dog right after, could he say i wasnt doing it cause im an ***, i was doing it cause im hungry!? There is a fun little quote button in the top right corner of posts.
You forgot that the second is done a lot more humanely, though I did forget a part, also follows rules, regulations, and laws. You would still be an *** as he could have obtained meat in other ways that won't purposely cause emotional trauma.
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-08-29 16:50:42
meh, heading to bed.
Night from me and Max
If anyone shot him, I'd shoot them. :D
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I personally knew these dogs, they belonged to my sister's best friend. They got out on accident, but were never any harm. In the article is clearly states he was advised not to leave his home.
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