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Fairy.Haxorking said: I'll admit that it's responsible for a large number of atrocities, but that's only because people abuse it. That's the same for everything in life though, guns, alcohol, ect. It's all because people abuse it. Religion tries to teach betterment, it just fails at it for the most part You're apologizing away.. A LOT of atrocities.. I'm neither for or against religion, I'm just saying that the argument between science and religion are never going to end until one of the following things happen:
- God descends from the heavens and proves his existence - Scientists prove religion is a hoax to EVERY believer - One side kills everyone on the other side
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Asura.Bartimaeus said: When the world becomes completely athiest, and we still have crime, murder, corruption, rape, suicide and everything else I expect the "fundamental athiests" who said Religion was the cause to be up front saying "Yeah maybe personal choice DOES have a role in this after all. sorry" lol'd 2001 ARIS data ( http://www.gc.cuny.edu/faculty/research_briefs/aris/key_findings.htm ): Who takes up the most room in our prisons? 76.6% - Christian 19.1% - No Religion/Refused to Answer 1.3% - Jewish 0.7% - Other/Not Specified 0.5% - Muslim/Islamic 0.5% - Buddhist 0.4% - Atheist 0.3% - Hindu 0.05% - Native American 0.04% - Bahai 0.027% - Sikh 0.026% - Scientology 0.01% - Santeria 0.005% - Rastafarian You're completely neglecting the message of religion though,
You shall not murder You shall not steal You shall not make for yourself an idol Honor your father and mother You shall not commit adultery How are any of these messages a negative thing? It's not religion that's at fault, it's people People abuse it and make it a bad thing
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Asura.Bartimaeus said: When the world becomes completely athiest, and we still have crime, murder, corruption, rape, suicide and everything else (Just 95% less), I expect the "fundamental athiests" who said Religion was the cause to be up front saying "Yeah maybe personal choice DOES have a role in this after all. sorry" lol'd I will agree with this Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Fairy.Haxorking said: You're completely neglecting the message of religion though, You shall not murder You shall not steal You shall not make for yourself an idol Honor your father and mother You shall not commit adultery How are any of these messages a negative thing? It's not religion that's at fault, it's people People abuse it and make it a bad thing "Thou shalt not murder... unless thou are gay.... Unless thou are a disobedient teenage... Unless thou are a nonvirgin unmarried girl... unless thou work on the sabbath....." That is what the commandment should really say... Because the bible goes over how god wants these kind of people to be killed... "Takin to the center of town and stoned to death"... That word death, does mean to kill.. Like dead right? Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Bismarck.Magnumatic said: Asura.Bartimaeus said: When the world becomes completely athiest, and we still have crime, murder, corruption, rape, suicide and everything else (Just 94% less), I expect the "fundamental athiests" who said Religion was the cause to be up front saying "Yeah maybe personal choice DOES have a role in this after all. sorry" lol'd Happy? Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: You do know that SLAVERY, is condoned in the commandments? You do know there are a lot more than ten correct? And we've fixed that, haven't we? You're expecting perfection in religion, nothing human is perfect There will always be flaws in our beliefs, even without religion Asura.Bartimaeus said: When the world becomes completely athiest, and we still have crime, murder, corruption, rape, suicide and everything else (Just 95% less), I expect the "fundamental athiests" who said Religion was the cause to be up front saying "Yeah maybe personal choice DOES have a role in this after all. sorry" lol'd Whens the last time you heard that some guy knifed some chick and raped her because of Jesus? All the bad people will continue being bad, it's just the god fearing people will no longer have a reason to be good
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Atheists don't murder in the name of Atheism.
Atheists use words. Theists use assault rifles, bombs, and airplanes. There's also the matter of free will, religion exists because people choose to believe. Really, alcohol is very similar to religion in that aspect. Alcohol (For consumption purposes, NOT medical) is responsible for countless atrocities, but still exists in society. Unlike religion though, there really is no up side to the story, but people like it. Even though it's nothing but a hindrance, alcohol for consumption still exists because people want it to, and for the same reason religion exists. So I wouldn't be arguing about abolishing religion until you're ready to quit every other vice in your life: smoking, sex for any other purpose than procreation, ect.
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How can there be flaws in your beliefs, if your beliefs are derived from a super intelligent being that does everything perfectly?
When have I ever said I condoned slavery?
NEVER have I said that, I suggest you stop putting words in other peoples mouths I'm simply stating that religion is not at fault for that, people are You can't blame god for the sins of men Bismarck.Magnumatic said: Who takes up the most room in our prisons? I love how you take that data, and ignore the first chart in the same article that shows the religious makeup of the country, which basically matches those numbers. So basically, religion has *gasp* no effect!!! Bismarck.Magnumatic said: How can there be flaws in your beliefs, if your beliefs are derived from a super intelligent being that does everything perfectly? Misinterpretation, if something imperfect acts, even based on something that is perfect, there will be flaws in the results. Don't blame religion for your problems, blame people
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Spicyrar, you're horrible with assumptions
I have never said I condoned anything Odin.Oldive said: Bismarck.Magnumatic said: Who takes up the most room in our prisons? No. It definitely said that the amount of secular people in America was 16%. The amount who were in prison was .4%... What the hell are you talking about? |
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