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To every single person still using a Hachiman Doma
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-08-09 21:59:49
Asura.Othirin said: last time i parsed Perle beat my Osode on WS numbers, trade 2str for 8att and more acc.
What Weapon skill ?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-08-09 21:59:58
Sample size? Job? WS in question? Targets? Buffs?
Cause really, you're giving us such useful information here with "I parsed and x beats y".
Ifrit.Vextra
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-09 22:05:05
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Asura.Othirin said: last time i parsed Perle beat my Osode on WS numbers, trade 2str for 8att and more acc.
What Weapon skill ?
tachi: jinpuuuuuuuuuuu, but seriously parse data or its false.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-08-09 22:06:06
You seem rather hung up on parses.
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-09 22:06:52
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: You seem rather obsessed with parse data.
lol yes, in this case id really like to see it though.
Shiva.Daimos
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By Shiva.Daimos 2010-08-09 22:08:02
Parses are unnecessary when something can be easily proved better/worse on paper.
Parses often skew results when people forget what food, buffs, etc., they have on.
Ifrit.Vextra
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-09 22:09:45
Shiva.Daimos said: Parses are unnecessary when something can be easily proved better/worse on paper.
Parses often skew results when people forget what food, buffs, etc., they have on.
k, please prove perle hauberk is better for ws than osode in a post please. Ill then stop bitching about parses.
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By Asura.Othirin 2010-08-09 22:11:05
Spamming Gekko with the odd Rana SC
march/mad i believe, dont remember the food.
either way my numbers show i was doing more with perle.
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By Shiva.Daimos 2010-08-09 22:11:36
Ifrit.Vextra said: Shiva.Daimos said: Parses are unnecessary when something can be easily proved better/worse on paper.
Parses often skew results when people forget what food, buffs, etc., they have on.
k, please prove perle hauberk is better for ws than osode in a post please. Ill then stop bitching about parses.
Wasn't trying to start anything, just shed some insight. Chill.
And on alot of mobs pDIF will be capped for Gekko(iirc), so the attack shouldn't do anything
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-08-09 22:13:26
Asura.Othirin said: last time i parsed Perle beat my Osode on WS numbers, trade 2str for 8att and more acc.
If you're talking Y/G/K I would seriously doubt this
Ifrit.Vextra
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-09 22:13:27
Asura.Othirin said: Spamming Gekko with the odd Rana SC
march/mad i believe, dont remember the food.
either way my numbers show i was doing more with perle.
typical Y/G/K ws gear? (i.e. full str build for some people who dont understand)
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-08-09 22:13:50
Asura.Othirin said: Spamming Gekko with the odd Rana SC
march/mad i believe, dont remember the food.
either way my numbers show i was doing more with perle.
why Perle for both Gekko and Rana?
K. Osode: Gekko
Hauby+1 or Perle: Rana
Also, MarchX2... unless you're not meleeing for TP. (talking about those who go with Minuets instead, and well you shouldn't really be suffering that badly for a Madrigal, not to mention it's not really helping y/g/k if we're talking about that...)
Ifrit.Vextra
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-09 22:15:54
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Asura.Othirin said: Spamming Gekko with the odd Rana SC
march/mad i believe, dont remember the food.
either way my numbers show i was doing more with perle.
why Perle for both Gekko and Rana?
K. Osode: Gekko
Hauby+1 or Perle: Rana
Also, MarchX2... unless you're not meleeing for TP.
meh some brds suck
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-08-09 22:18:31
Ifrit.Vextra said: Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Asura.Othirin said: Spamming Gekko with the odd Rana SC
march/mad i believe, dont remember the food.
either way my numbers show i was doing more with perle.
why Perle for both Gekko and Rana?
K. Osode: Gekko
Hauby+1 or Perle: Rana
Also, MarchX2... unless you're not meleeing for TP.
meh some brds suck
Yeah, that's a shame... one time on a pick up group event, this BRD was trying to convince me that MinuetX2 was better than MarchX2...
Ifrit.Vextra
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-09 22:22:10
Also why does every sam only use gekko? really?
"Hey guys I love gekko so much that I .dat swapped every ws to tachi: gekko because thats the only ws that should ever be used!"......
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By Asura.Othirin 2010-08-09 22:22:19
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/167618
this is the set i use for Gekko, i just switched osode with perle. Believe it or not i dont care, go try it for yourself
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-09 22:24:55
Asura.Othirin said: http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/167618
this is the set i use for Gekko, i just switched osode with perle. Believe it or not i dont care, go try it for yourself
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By Asura.Othirin 2010-08-09 22:26:36
Ifrit.Vextra said: Asura.Othirin said: http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/167618
this is the set i use for Gekko, i just switched osode with perle. Believe it or not i dont care, go try it for yourself
thanks lol
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-08-09 22:26:36
Ifrit.Vextra said: Also why does every sam only use gekko? really?
"Hey guys I love gekko so much that I .dat swapped every ws to tachi: gekko because thats the only ws that should ever be used!"......
Well Gekko has a higher Cratio bonus than Yuki and Kasha, so Gekko is usually stronger...
What I don't understand is the SAMs that I see using only Kasha and tell me that it is because "Gekko misses a lot more than Kasha" ...
Ifrit.Vextra
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-09 22:27:41
Asura.Othirin said: Ifrit.Vextra said: Asura.Othirin said: http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/167618
this is the set i use for Gekko, i just switched osode with perle. Believe it or not i dont care, go try it for yourself
thanks lol
np
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-08-09 22:28:36
Ace's helm
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By Carbuncle.Taintedone 2010-08-09 22:33:02
hey guyz, is it good 2 have tachi:enpi as my strongest weapon skill at lvl 80?????
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-08-09 22:36:23
Hachi Haidate, Cerb +1, but Gekko's in Ace's and Perle body.
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-09 22:38:59
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By Asura.Othirin 2010-08-09 22:41:41
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Hachi Haidate, Cerb +1, but WS's in Ace's and Perle body.
i have Wyvern Helm +1 actually :) just telling you my results, no need to get upset over it
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-08-09 22:43:34
Asura.Othirin said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Hachi Haidate, Cerb +1, but WS's in Ace's and Perle body.
i have Wyvern Helm +1 actually :) just telling you my results, no need to get upset over it
Wait, so you're saying that you have Osode and Wyvern Helm+1, but Gekko in Perle body and Ace's helm?
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-08-09 22:44:36
Good gear doesnt make a good player :( enough said
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Ifrit.Vextra
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By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-09 22:48:37
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Asura.Othirin said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Hachi Haidate, Cerb +1, but WS's in Ace's and Perle body.
i have Wyvern Helm +1 actually :) just telling you my results, no need to get upset over it
Wait, so you're saying that you have Osode and Wyvern Helm+1, but Gekko in Perle body and Ace's helm?
duh gekko needs all the att and acc it can get, its super highly inaccurate havent you heard?
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-08-09 22:52:00
Ifrit.Vextra said: Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Asura.Othirin said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Hachi Haidate, Cerb +1, but WS's in Ace's and Perle body.
i have Wyvern Helm +1 actually :) just telling you my results, no need to get upset over it
Wait, so you're saying that you have Osode and Wyvern Helm+1, but Gekko in Perle body and Ace's helm?
duh gekko needs all the att and acc it can get, its super highly inaccurate havent you heard?
I have heard. Lots of SAMs with Hachiman Domas have told me this, I guess it must be true... I mean I don't even have SAM at level 80... what do I know right?
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By Asura.Othirin 2010-08-09 23:01:58
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Asura.Othirin said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Hachi Haidate, Cerb +1, but WS's in Ace's and Perle body.
i have Wyvern Helm +1 actually :) just telling you my results, no need to get upset over it
Wait, so you're saying that you have Osode and Wyvern Helm+1, but Gekko in Perle body and Ace's helm?
Yep that's exactly what i am saying!
We are talking about the overall result of Perle Hauberk and Kirin Osode, but thanks for the gear advice. Either way no one has come back and said "here is proof Kirin osode is better" so i will continue to use perle until told otherwise.
You know who you are, assuming you know how the shortcut works to start your browser.
I'm going to be honest... If you are still using a Domaru, you are nothing short of an imbecile...
Let's look at alts for a Domaru, shall we?
haubergeon - On Asura = 38K, at most 50K on Ifrit. Solid piece for TPing in, can't go wrong with it. And cheap as hell... Speaking of cheap...
perle hauberk - On Asura = 15K, at most again on Ifrit for 25K. Practically a Domaru +0.5 for WSes, and a Hauby 0.8 for TPing in (Assuming you don't have the full set, I can only assume if you have a Domaru you don't have a Rose Grip, Rajas Ring or Goading Belt to support Full Perle and a 6 hit though), you can't argue with it, it is the best you will get for the price short of buying a single Bonanza Marble and somehow winning with some huge amount of fluke.
In short, it is no longer about price, or difficulty of obtainability, you could do 20 minutes (if not less) of Abyssea and have that body, or you could simply farm a little, 1 and a half stacks of Ladybugs wings (Roughly) is all it would take.
In summary/TL;DR: You look like an idiot wearing a Domaru. NPC it, and move on to something better.
(Sidenote: On most servers Domaru are AHing for cheaper than they NPC for, which is 18K btw)
/rantoff
Edit: Let the ratedown commence btw, it's their game, they pay for it, etc etc.. They can do better for themselves.
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