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 Cerberus.Senkyuutai
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-19 07:54:07
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S'ok, I'm not so desperate to look like a child fishing someone two posts in a row.

Don't forget the painkiller.
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By Fairy.Spence 2013-05-19 08:03:26
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Y'know what? Don't try to "show off" your wins and stupid builds and I won't criticize them, k?

Vous etes un hypocrite.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-05-19 08:39:43
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I mean technically it isn't a question of what a build does but more build optimization, and on support Warwick that isn't very optimized

Don't get me wrong, it could work. But Warwick is literally a 1v1 champion (he has a supress with sustain, if he catches someone 1v1 and doesn't kill them you're doing a bad job). I mean unless they have QSS and ignite, then you're probably going to lose the fight

so you shouldn't really need the Frozen mallet as it's sort of a shitty item. Can't really argue that though because no one builds it. Except for people that don't watch streams and play Garen top.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-19 09:12:22
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Fairy.Spence said: »
Y'know what? Don't try to "show off" your wins and stupid builds and I won't criticize them, k?

Vous etes un hypocrite.
You may want to drop your haughty attitude and try to accept that it wasn't showing off, merely sharing something that made me feel good.

Criticism is good and needed, haughty attitude because you want a conflict to errupt isn't.

Tu peux appeller les gens hypocrites si ça te fait plaisir, au final, c'est toi qui agis comme un gamin, qui te comporte de manière hautaine et qui ne sait pas communiquer correctement sur un forum.

Tu es un clown.

Asura.Lolserj said: »
I mean technically it isn't a question of what a build does but more build optimization, and on support Warwick that isn't very optimized

Don't get me wrong, it could work. But Warwick is literally a 1v1 champion (he has a supress with sustain, if he catches someone 1v1 and doesn't kill them you're doing a bad job). I mean unless they have QSS and ignite, then you're probably going to lose the fight

so you shouldn't really need the Frozen mallet as it's sort of a shitty item. Can't really argue that though because no one builds it. Except for people that don't watch streams and play Garen top.
FM allows to kill things in general. In this specific case, it allowed to nullify Vayne's tumble advantage when kiting and save people from Rammus charge (and therefore taunt) and kill him the same way when he would run away.

There may be better things to build at a specific point in time however, I agree. The other choice at this point in this situation would have been Randuuin's, usually.
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By Leviathan.Pandur 2013-05-19 09:43:58
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
FM allows to kill things in general.



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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-19 10:14:04
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Leviathan.Pandur said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
FM allows to kill things in general.
당신은 빨아 빌어 먹을


الذين يقولون هذا؟
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-19 14:22:24
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I don't understand. Why is FM bad for Warwick? It seems to synergize with him perfectly.

Is this in the context of support only?
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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-05-19 14:51:20
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FM works decently on WW, but really isn't needed. Regardless, you should really only WW top lane. He's an awful jungle.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-19 14:53:03
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I did link it before but here it is again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjgarXn_alo

Also:

http://www.twitch.tv/iamcrvor


He explains it rather well. It's lengthy, but his vision really changed mine, I went from 33% to 45% winrate in ranked thanks to this.

He's not Hecarim tier but still, this guy is proof that he's far from awful. The guy addresses everything said in his explanation anyway, regarding why toplane can be a bad idea and such.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-19 17:16:41
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Pretty funny.
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2013-05-19 18:16:49
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Bahamut.Serj said: »
FM works decently on WW, but really isn't needed. Regardless, you should really only WW top lane. He's an awful jungle.

........I thought Warwick was the king of the jungle?

"Hey I want to learn how to jungle."

"Go read a Warwick guide."
By volkom 2013-05-19 18:38:06
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Bismarck.Faelar said: »
Bahamut.Serj said: »
FM works decently on WW, but really isn't needed. Regardless, you should really only WW top lane. He's an awful jungle.

........I thought Warwick was the king of the jungle?

"Hey I want to learn how to jungle."

"Go read a Warwick guide."

he's easy to jungle with. but ganking potential blows pre 6
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-19 18:54:50
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Bismarck.Faelar said: »
Bahamut.Serj said: »
FM works decently on WW, but really isn't needed. Regardless, you should really only WW top lane. He's an awful jungle.

........I thought Warwick was the king of the jungle?

"Hey I want to learn how to jungle."

"Go read a Warwick guide."
The way Warwick works, you never go out of your jungle until you hit 6.
Thankfully, while he's slow to clear jungle, you clear it with ease because of his sustain. Your first jungle clear can be done with 1 potion, no more.

You can always grab a quick kill pre 6 if you pay good attention and use your Ghost properly but that's something rare that shouldn't be sought.

The goal is to reach 6 asap so that you can make up the X minutes you left your team 4v5. The good thing is that as soon as you hit 6, you become a real menace and the longer the game goes, the stronger you get.

If you want to have an impact pre 6, it's better to pick things such as Volibear, Hecarim or Vi.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-05-19 19:39:30
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His ganking potential still sucks completely past 6. And he offers little in a team fight compared to other junglers. Safest jungler in the game, sure, but on every point of what a jungler should do he completely fails at.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-19 19:53:52
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Exaggerating.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2013-05-19 20:15:31
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summary of last week: promote to silver III, go on a winning streak. Fail 2 promotions 1w-2l, come Saturday and Sunday lose 8 ranked games in a row, get demoted, get re-promoted. so stressful lol
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-19 20:46:28
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Something about high sustain, a suppress, an AoE attack speed steroid, and a revealing chase mechanism doesn't seem to say: not great for jungle.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-19 21:15:25
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Early objective control, also.
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By Kikorimo 2013-05-20 03:28:47
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Know what I find funny? When I have more kills, fewer deaths, and WAY more assists than 2 other people on my team, and am trying to give good advice to secure what should have been a win (we lost by the way, because no one would listen and they kept bonzai charging in like noobs) they accuse me of being the ***player. Yup. After I said I didn't wanna play the champ in the first place and would at least try to set up kills with my Q (Which I did. Often. 37 assists kinda proves it.) told them to defend at our turrets and let TF ult behind them and take what was left of their nexus, and what do they do? push to their nexus, and TF ults right on top of them getting his *** killed, then they pretty much all die and let enemy team take our towers and nexus (because there's only so goddamn much I can do without being fed...)

The wall of text is scary I know, so here's some short form:
Idiots don't listen or communicate, cost us game, then try to pin it on the one who was telling them what they needed to do to win, and who was setting up kills to feed them the whole frickin game. (Also had around 20k more damage done to enemy champs than the 2 scrubs that mouthed off at the end. Yet somehow it's my fault... yup... sure... wonder what color the sky is where they live.)
Funny.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-20 07:07:55
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*ping Ashe to go duo dragon after a successful push + kill mid*
"stfu"
"?"
"I'm pro Ashe, I know what I'm doing"
*Ashe proceeds to base, I solo dragon anyway*
*ping Ashe to finish the nexus which is at 30% with enemy team at 30seconds from respawn*
"I don't need your advices, noob"
*kill the remaining 30% of the nexus as Maokai after she based to buy her X item*

It's frustrating to the max but unfortunately, this is how online games are. Their ***never stinks, they never need your input and they never try to understand. Most of them are young so it's understandable, they have to act tough, be rebellious and ***.

I have been dealing with this kind of attitude since 1999 personally so, I'm more than used to it. Though I liked it better in the past, we had much less HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE stuff to say. Other than "noob", I don't remember many other insults that were stupid.

That being said, a few days ago, I had a Tristana befriend me after the match and she apologised for her attitude. This kind of people exist and even if they are rare, it feels good.
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By Fairy.Spence 2013-05-20 08:04:49
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Sorry, Senk. God damn LOL brings out the worst in me. You hit them people with your frozen mallet. You hit them good.
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By Bahamut.Kujah 2013-05-20 09:14:01
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Any euw players wana 1v1 top/mid a bunch? Looking to push my way through silver I this week, gold V here I come!
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-20 09:22:15
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If you want to 1v1, my smurf is only lv 20 but I have a few duelists and all the runes equippable at said level. We can spare if you want, add ZEDhimself and send me a PM or post in the thread if you're good to go, I'll be playing for a long time today.
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By Bahamut.Kujah 2013-05-20 09:31:55
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I'll hit you up when im home. Can do best riven na rules if that's okay with you (aside from the only play as riven part lol). Best of 3s. Blind pick 3 bans each.

First tower, first blood or 30cs lead after 10mins wins!
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-20 09:57:43
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Oh sure, that sounds fun, I'm down.
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By Bahamut.Kujah 2013-05-20 12:11:12
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|Lets gooooo got an hour before my evening Delve spam!
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-20 12:14:00
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How do you end the game at first blood/first tower/30cs? Doesn't it count as a loss or a leave if you don't finish an evenly matched game?
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By Bahamut.Kujah 2013-05-20 12:18:46
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Both players leave, doesnt show up in match history as was a "no result"
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By Bahamut.Kujah 2013-05-20 12:19:31
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You coming to play too Tikal!?
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-20 12:21:00
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Workin' :/
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