Bismarck.Misao said: »
he should not be able to be that tanky and deal that much damage as well tho :/
Typically he doesn't.
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He only deals dmg like that if he gets ahead or fed. Typically he doesn't. Ramuh.Urial said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Why nerf Blitz's pull? Nerf his damage, not his utility. He's one of the few champions that offer unique mechanisms, his damages are just way too high, that's all. People pick him for his hook, not his damage, that's why it should be nerfed, nothing else. Gamedesigning101. 3 CC's, 2 of which are hard CC's. Even if he did ***for dmg an enemy SHOULD be able to kill you during the time you're grabbed, knocked up and the silenced and can't flash away. They did tweak his CC duration and nerfed his damage not long ago. He just needs more nerf. See Janna or even Zyra, they are extremely good example as to why only his damage is an issue. What's wrong with playing a champion that is 90% utility and 10% damage? What's wrong with having a CC only champion, shining only in some situations (forced team fights/skirmishes)? If I wasn't a game designer, I would cry about his CCs, but that's actually crying about the whole concept that is Blitzkrank. His damage are a mistake, not his kit. His kit "can" be seen as a mistake nowadays because with the evolution of the game, no champion gather as much CC as him. It's a kind of reverse power creep, because he was out when not many CC-master were, so he had to get the job done. Bismarck.Misao said: » he should not be able to be that tanky and deal that much damage as well tho :/ I feel sorry for the people playing Blitz outside of a support, but much like Zyra, he needs to be toned down. Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Ramuh.Urial said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Why nerf Blitz's pull? Nerf his damage, not his utility. He's one of the few champions that offer unique mechanisms, his damages are just way too high, that's all. People pick him for his hook, not his damage, that's why it should be nerfed, nothing else. Gamedesigning101. 3 CC's, 2 of which are hard CC's. Even if he did ***for dmg an enemy SHOULD be able to kill you during the time you're grabbed, knocked up and the silenced and can't flash away. They did tweak his CC duration and nerfed his damage not long ago. He just needs more nerf. See Janna or even Zyra, they are extremely good example as to why only his damage is an issue. What's wrong with playing a champion that is 90% utility and 10% damage? What's wrong with having a CC only champion, shining only in some situations (forced team fights/skirmishes)? If I wasn't a game designer, I would cry about his CCs, but that's actually crying about the whole concept that is Blitzkrank. His damage are a mistake, not his kit. His kit "can" be seen as a mistake nowadays because with the evolution of the game, no champion gather as much CC as him. It's a kind of reverse power creep, because he was out when not many CC-master were, so he had to get the job done. Did you just list Zyra as 10% dmg 90% utility.. wat.... Ramuh.Urial said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Ramuh.Urial said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Why nerf Blitz's pull? Nerf his damage, not his utility. He's one of the few champions that offer unique mechanisms, his damages are just way too high, that's all. People pick him for his hook, not his damage, that's why it should be nerfed, nothing else. Gamedesigning101. 3 CC's, 2 of which are hard CC's. Even if he did ***for dmg an enemy SHOULD be able to kill you during the time you're grabbed, knocked up and the silenced and can't flash away. They did tweak his CC duration and nerfed his damage not long ago. He just needs more nerf. See Janna or even Zyra, they are extremely good example as to why only his damage is an issue. What's wrong with playing a champion that is 90% utility and 10% damage? What's wrong with having a CC only champion, shining only in some situations (forced team fights/skirmishes)? If I wasn't a game designer, I would cry about his CCs, but that's actually crying about the whole concept that is Blitzkrank. His damage are a mistake, not his kit. His kit "can" be seen as a mistake nowadays because with the evolution of the game, no champion gather as much CC as him. It's a kind of reverse power creep, because he was out when not many CC-master were, so he had to get the job done. Did you just list Zyra as 10% dmg 90% utility.. wat.... This part is about what Blitz should be. Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Why nerf Blitz's pull? Nerf his damage, not his utility. He's one of the few champions that offer unique mechanisms, his damages are just way too high, that's all. People pick him for his hook, not his damage, that's why it should be nerfed, nothing else. Gamedesigning101. The reason blitz is OP is due to his kit Blitz will always be OP unless you nerf the pull, if he just had the knockup and the silence, sure he'd be a little strong but he wouldn't be as OP and permabanned 1 good blitz pull can win a game that is why he needs to be nerfed
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Basically blitz isn't permabanned because he does too much damage
it's because he offers way too much utility and his kit is stupid broken he has a kit that can't really be balanced, so you're probably not going to see him fixed any time soon Maybe if they release a champion taking some of his kit.
Kinda hard to backpedal in such a game involving people's money, though. really the only way to play against blitz is to pick against blitz before the game starts
pick a team of people you wouldn't want to pull in Trundle! For he is smelly!
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I don't really think blitz is SO bad. I lose to him occasionally, but I win more often than not, with Leona, or Nunu.
Simple solution? Don't get grabbed. It's not quick, and you can always see it coming (animation wise). If you do, then your mistake. Be lucky you don't see him in the Jungle with any degree of regularity. Having a grab come at you from absolutely anywhere is terrifying, much worse than Amumu. Ultrarichard said: » I don't really think blitz is SO bad. I lose to him occasionally, but I win more often than not, with Leona, or Nunu. Simple solution? Don't get grabbed. It's not quick, and you can always see it coming (animation wise). If you do, then your mistake. Be lucky you don't see him in the Jungle with any degree of regularity. Having a grab come at you from absolutely anywhere is terrifying, much worse than Amumu. I think the main problem people have is that: 1) his hook is still lethal as *** 2) they are lazy and don't want to shake their habits, actually adapting Not saying I'm good against a Blitz and will never get pulled, but I sure as *** don't play as I would without a Blitz in front. As for the jungle part, most Blitz I face tend to roam the jungle hardcore and pull people. That's what makes him dangerous as ***, but then again, warding jungle exist, adapting etc. Since people like to play randomly (and after talking about it yesterday), we should maybe organize a 5v5 event between the AH people (and/or the usual people we bring)?
We could ARAM or normal rift, special theme (only supports, only bruisers etc). Would be fun. Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » we should maybe organize a 5v5 event between the AH people -get trindemere, ragequit-
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Asura.Lolserj said: » Even pros get hooked Ya. And if it's a game changer, they accept the defeat and go on. But a Taric stun or Morgana bind are just as game changing. Which is a shame, because I don't think I've ever landed a hook any time I play blitz. Certainly not one that I would remember as awesome. Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Since people like to play randomly (and after talking about it yesterday), we should maybe organize a 5v5 event between the AH people (and/or the usual people we bring)? We could ARAM or normal rift, special theme (only supports, only bruisers etc). Would be fun. i forsee 5 angry people at the end of that
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Ultrarichard said: » Asura.Lolserj said: » Even pros get hooked Ya. And if it's a game changer, they accept the defeat and go on. But a Taric stun or Morgana bind are just as game changing. Which is a shame, because I don't think I've ever landed a hook any time I play blitz. Certainly not one that I would remember as awesome. A morgana binding or a taric stun aren't the same because they don't bring you into the entire enemy team instantly One ability having the ability to turn a losing game completely around is a bit ridiculous blitzcrank makes for instant 1v5s and then afterwards 4v5s its kind of broken volkom said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Since people like to play randomly (and after talking about it yesterday), we should maybe organize a 5v5 event between the AH people (and/or the usual people we bring)? We could ARAM or normal rift, special theme (only supports, only bruisers etc). Would be fun. i forsee 5 angry people at the end of that Asura.Lolserj said: » Ultrarichard said: » Asura.Lolserj said: » Even pros get hooked Ya. And if it's a game changer, they accept the defeat and go on. But a Taric stun or Morgana bind are just as game changing. Which is a shame, because I don't think I've ever landed a hook any time I play blitz. Certainly not one that I would remember as awesome. A morgana binding or a taric stun aren't the same because they don't bring you into the entire enemy team instantly One ability having the ability to turn a losing game completely around is a bit ridiculous blitzcrank makes for instant 1v5s and then afterwards 4v5s its kind of broken That's why the only thing I see being doable against Blitz is ruining the rest, but it doesn't solve the hook. But at the same time, this is Blitz's signature, there is nothing to solve imo. I dont think I've played with too many people in this thread.
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Fairy.Spence said: » Saving the best for last, I bet! Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » That's why the only thing I see being doable against Blitz is ruining the rest, but it doesn't solve the hook. But at the same time, this is Blitz's signature, there is nothing to solve imo.
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I've played with a few of you others too, just couldn't think of your names XD
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