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Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-11-12 13:38:55
I've been playing Ryze a lot lately but I'm having a really bad run of games in general.
By Rhaokin 2012-11-12 13:47:09
The plays!
Edit: Wrong SS lol :x
It's taking a while but I think I'm beginning to actually enjoy support... Not sure if good thing. Supporting so many Ezreals has me itching to play him so I gave it a shot. :D
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Cerberus.Eugene
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-11-12 13:51:47
By Avitori 2012-11-12 14:16:31
I want to play Ryze more but I only have 4 rune pages and he needs his own special set of runes to be effective. There are still some champions I want to buy first (Elise). :<
Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-11-12 14:22:23
I use M.pen/M.regen/ScalingMR/Spell Vamp quints, but movement speed quints work too.
By Avitori 2012-11-12 14:40:07
mPen/mPlv/mPlv/movement is what I want to do for Ryze. Need to buy the mana per level runes and movement quints.
Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-11-12 14:43:35
I don't understand the mPlv route. Sure, it gives some more oomph but I don't see it helping your late game a whole lot.
Cerberus.Eugene
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-11-12 14:45:23
ryze peaks midgame, falls off a little late.
By Avitori 2012-11-12 14:47:29
Health p/lvl yellows and MR blues might work too, and I have those already so I might give it a shot tonight.
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By Avitori 2012-11-12 14:49:20
ryze peaks midgame, falls off a little late.
I used to love playing LeBlanc and stoping people midgame. She is fun as hell but her late game sucks so bad, not to mention she is almost worthless in teamfights.
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By Sylph.Shinobu 2012-11-12 15:13:54
If you're looking for a solid mid, play Ahri. The best counters to her really don't counter her due to how her kit works. Leblanc is rarely seen because magic resist runes shut down her early game and an early abysal scepter means shes gonna do a whole lot of nothing to you. Ryze counters ahri if you let him tough you, which you should never really need to let happen. Her mobility, cc and true damage means that at best you will not feed an ahri. A good ahri is something to fear no matter who you play because no matter how good youre doing, a random landed charm can end your advantage. Really, the only way to beat an ahri is to outplay her.
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Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-11-12 15:27:32
Isn't Leblanc a good assassin though? I've never played her, I'm just curious why people say she gets shut down, and falls off late game. I still see her melt squishies.
By volkom 2012-11-12 15:28:44
If you're looking for a solid mid, play Ahri. The best counters to her really don't counter her due to how her kit works. Leblanc is rarely seen because magic resist runes shut down her early game and an early abysal scepter means shes gonna do a whole lot of nothing to you. Ryze counters ahri if you let him tough you, which you should never really need to let happen. Her mobility, cc and true damage means that at best you will not feed an ahri. A good ahri is something to fear no matter who you play because no matter how good youre doing, a random landed charm can end your advantage. Really, the only way to beat an ahri is to outplay her.
LeBlanc and Talon say hi
By Avitori 2012-11-12 15:29:58
I think in the end it all comes down to who you're best with. I believe every champion in this game has potential and player skill and practice is probably more important than anything else that i've seen.
On another note, this new item looks amazin'
Wooglet's Witchcap
New Recipe: Needlessly Large Rod + Chain Mail
Total Gold Cost: 3500 (combine cost: 1200)
+100 Ability Power
+50 Armor
Unique Passive: Increases Ability Power by 25%
Unique Active: Places your champion into Stasis for 2.5 seconds, rendering you invulnerable and untargetable but unable to take any action (90 second cooldown)
Now available on Twisted Treeline and Crystal Scar
Removed Zhonya's Hourglass from Twisted Treeline and Crystal Scar
Removed Rabadon's Deathcap from Crystal Scar
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/end-season-2-patch-notes
By volkom 2012-11-12 15:31:38
From what i've played
Skill > counterpicking
although counterpicking does help a ton
By Avitori 2012-11-12 15:31:51
Isn't Leblanc a good assassin though? I've never played her, I'm just curious why people say she gets shut down, and falls off late game. I still see her melt squishies.
She is extremely good at shutting down AD and AP carries (unless they are tanky like ryze and swain). The problem is you only get one chance to burst someone down and after that you are stuck on cooldowns. If you play LeBlanc you have to try to end the game early before everyone becomes tanky, and the ADC gets Guardian's Angel.
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By Rhaokin 2012-11-12 15:33:49
I just rage-afk'd for the first time instead of bitching at a teammate, but I felt bad so I came back 10min later and somehow we won...
Does practice really make perfect when playing bottom lane support? I don't feel like I'm getting better at much of anything other than warding and maybe initiating. Also how do you deal with a counter-aggressive Blitz/Alistar in blind pick when you have a kill lane setup? It seems destined to fail when you chose a config that relies on getting kills but they turret hug with blitz and make it impossible to be aggressive.
By Avitori 2012-11-12 15:35:03
When playing support, pray you have a competent ADC or you're pretty much screwed.
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By Rhaokin 2012-11-12 15:35:43
This Draven walked into a blitz grab under their turret 3x before even 8 min, which is why I afk'd <_>
Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-11-12 15:40:58
Out-farm them and don't over-extend. If you properly control your laning waves, the minions will get closer and closer to your turret, without being under it, and denying them exp/CS.
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By Sylph.Shinobu 2012-11-12 15:50:14
If you're looking for a solid mid, play Ahri. The best counters to her really don't counter her due to how her kit works. Leblanc is rarely seen because magic resist runes shut down her early game and an early abysal scepter means shes gonna do a whole lot of nothing to you. Ryze counters ahri if you let him tough you, which you should never really need to let happen. Her mobility, cc and true damage means that at best you will not feed an ahri. A good ahri is something to fear no matter who you play because no matter how good youre doing, a random landed charm can end your advantage. Really, the only way to beat an ahri is to outplay her.
LeBlanc and Talon say hi
I actually covered Leblanc in what I had said. Talon on the other hand does better against her but as long as you don't feed him, Ahri scales way better than talon, not to mention he comes with the same issue as Ryze in that she out ranges him.
By volkom 2012-11-12 15:56:26
If you're looking for a solid mid, play Ahri. The best counters to her really don't counter her due to how her kit works. Leblanc is rarely seen because magic resist runes shut down her early game and an early abysal scepter means shes gonna do a whole lot of nothing to you. Ryze counters ahri if you let him tough you, which you should never really need to let happen. Her mobility, cc and true damage means that at best you will not feed an ahri. A good ahri is something to fear no matter who you play because no matter how good youre doing, a random landed charm can end your advantage. Really, the only way to beat an ahri is to outplay her.
LeBlanc and Talon say hi
I actually covered Leblanc in what I had said. Talon on the other hand does better against her but as long as you don't feed him, Ahri scales way better than talon, not to mention he comes with the same issue as Ryze in that she out ranges him.
true but all he has to do is rake to farm, and usually 1 rakes kills waves. on top of that his burst could probably kill ahri and if she charms him and begins her combo, soon as the charm's done he just ults and runs away. Also if he decides to engage, he silences ahri which lasts for a bit.
as for LB. lv.2 burst = dead ahri if the lb is good enough
Bahamut.Serj
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-11-12 16:00:34
I think in the end it all comes down to who you're best with. I believe every champion in this game has potential and player skill and practice is probably more important than anything else that i've seen.
On another note, this new item looks amazin'
Wooglet's Witchcap
New Recipe: Needlessly Large Rod + Chain Mail
Total Gold Cost: 3500 (combine cost: 1200)
+100 Ability Power
+50 Armor
Unique Passive: Increases Ability Power by 25%
Unique Active: Places your champion into Stasis for 2.5 seconds, rendering you invulnerable and untargetable but unable to take any action (90 second cooldown)
Now available on Twisted Treeline and Crystal Scar
Removed Zhonya's Hourglass from Twisted Treeline and Crystal Scar
Removed Rabadon's Deathcap from Crystal Scar
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/end-season-2-patch-notes
Twisted Treeline only, Dominion too I think.
If you're looking for a solid mid, play Ahri. The best counters to her really don't counter her due to how her kit works. Leblanc is rarely seen because magic resist runes shut down her early game and an early abysal scepter means shes gonna do a whole lot of nothing to you. Ryze counters ahri if you let him tough you, which you should never really need to let happen. Her mobility, cc and true damage means that at best you will not feed an ahri. A good ahri is something to fear no matter who you play because no matter how good youre doing, a random landed charm can end your advantage. Really, the only way to beat an ahri is to outplay her.
If the Ryze doesn't suck he'll destroy Ahri since he has a spammable snare and is tanky as all hell. You'd have to shut him down early when he should be farming to do anything against him.
Diana destroys her as well, as does Kassadin. She isn't end-all-be-all of APs, every champ has a counter.
And Ryze doesn't fall off late-game, he has a really strong mid/late game since he has probably the highest constantly dps of all APs.
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Cerberus.Eugene
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-11-12 16:14:34
And Ryze doesn't fall off late-game, he has a really strong mid/late game since he has probably the highest constantly dps of all APs. He doesn't fall off hard late game, but his mid is stronger. All aps dip late.
Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-11-12 16:15:56
Ryze goes defensive late game is why. Sacrifices burst output for sustained.
Cerberus.Eugene
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-11-12 16:16:59
Yeah.
Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-11-12 16:20:03
Fits just perfect for Ryze though. The longer he's in the fight, the more he can mash those abilities and the more dangerous he becomes. He can seriously melt people if he focuses; pop that ult and it spreads team-wide.
Bahamut.Serj
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-11-12 16:31:51
First time Fiddle.
And Ryze doesn't sacrifice damage to be tanky, he gets damage from being tanky.
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By Bismarck.Misao 2012-11-12 16:33:05
ka-kaw~
Cerberus.Eugene
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-11-12 17:04:04
I just rage-afk'd for the first time instead of bitching at a teammate, but I felt bad so I came back 10min later and somehow we won...
Because despite being afk for 10 minutes you still outwarded the other team.
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